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Quote from: Wend on May 25, 2017, 09:18:10 PM

He kills so many drug users or drug lords, Because the president of the philipines he is so angry that kind of people and many innocent people die because of them.

http://cnnphilippines.com/news/2017/02/09/PNP-Vigilante-group-operating-in-the-guise-of-drug-war.html

Apparently its a rival drug gang vs another drug gang. Stupid, Retard, Idiot do you know business? I run a business and most businesses tends to take out the other. Educate yourself.

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Quote from: Wend on May 25, 2017, 09:18:10 PM

He kills so many drug users or drug lords, Because the president of the philipines he is so angry that kind of people and many innocent people die because of them.

Yes... a lot of drug users have been killed. But what about the major drug lords? I am not a resident of the Philippines, and therefore I don't know what happened with them. But if drug dealers are being targeted irrespective of their rank, then Duterte deserves a lot of accolades. He did something which is nearly impossible to do in a third world nation.

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All of these initiatives it is very good. But too demonstrative. He certainly does good for the country. Winning the sympathies and support of the citizens. The fight against drugs is a very dangerous job. I hope that he will succeed

He will not achieve any success. How can you do good deeds with murder? It support only Russian. They are happy that he's with the disrespectful comments about Obama, and to treat with disregard for the lives of its citizens in the blood of Russian rulers.

Sure he can kill as many as he wants there will always be more users and more drug dealers. He has to fix the underlying problem first.

His country is a 3rd world corrupt shithole. Lots has to happen before the drug problem subsides, like maybe creating jobs for his people.

He kills so many drug users or drug lords, Because the president of the philipines he is so angry that kind of people and many innocent people die because of them.

Yes, he kills assassins. But I'm not sure that it's humane. He had to give them a chance to reform. It seems to me that the murder can be replaced with life imprisonment in prison

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All of these initiatives it is very good. But too demonstrative. He certainly does good for the country. Winning the sympathies and support of the citizens. The fight against drugs is a very dangerous job. I hope that he will succeed

He will not achieve any success. How can you do good deeds with murder? It support only Russian. They are happy that he's with the disrespectful comments about Obama, and to treat with disregard for the lives of its citizens in the blood of Russian rulers.

Sure he can kill as many as he wants there will always be more users and more drug dealers. He has to fix the underlying problem first.

His country is a 3rd world corrupt shithole. Lots has to happen before the drug problem subsides, like maybe creating jobs for his people.

He kills so many drug users or drug lords, Because the president of the philipines he is so angry that kind of people and many innocent people die because of them.

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Quote from: Fireblazer on February 09, 2017, 08:23:30 AM

How do you know that he was not dealing drugs? He's not all to talk about it openly. To become President you need to have a lot of money. Do you know where he took your money?

During the campaign period, this is what I am always saying, he will always be dealing with drug matter most of the time and it will be a never ending fight, what we need is more work, and improvement in economy.. Well, it turns out that he can never really end drugs...

Right now, I still don't believe that he would lead drug trades... Besides, the term has only just began, lets just hope that we won't be like this until the end of his term...

its always good to hope for the best we knew that drug lords will do their best to manipulate situations, they have money and influence so even the president really aiming to clean the nations it will be a long journey for him unless we as civilians and concerned people will help him pointing out who's really behind and uncover those corrupt and involve politicians and police generals.

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Quote from: Fireblazer on February 09, 2017, 08:23:30 AM

How do you know that he was not dealing drugs? He's not all to talk about it openly. To become President you need to have a lot of money. Do you know where he took your money?

During the campaign period, this is what I am always saying, he will always be dealing with drug matter most of the time and it will be a never ending fight, what we need is more work, and improvement in economy.. Well, it turns out that he can never really end drugs...

Right now, I still don't believe that he would lead drug trades... Besides, the term has only just began, lets just hope that we won't be like this until the end of his term...

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Quote from: diegz on February 09, 2017, 07:56:41 AM

Nope, I doubt that the President really wants to liquidate those other drug dealers for his own sake of leading the drug market. Besides, he might not need it anymore, he has all the power in the country, he can just be a corrupt than being a drug dealer.

This past days, I haven't heard much about the police operations, probably they are now planning it carefully.

He really wanted to be the most powerful drug leader then he can do it even not as President, he can actually do it while he is just a Davao Mayor, but nope, he did not do it. Why? Because he really hates drugs. Just do some research about his life, he might be a killer during his Mayor but it is for the sake of his City not for his own good.

How do you know that he was not dealing drugs? He's not all to talk about it openly. To become President you need to have a lot of money. Do you know where he took your money?

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Quote from: diegz on February 09, 2017, 07:56:41 AM

Nope, I doubt that the President really wants to liquidate those other drug dealers for his own sake of leading the drug market. Besides, he might not need it anymore, he has all the power in the country, he can just be a corrupt than being a drug dealer.

This past days, I haven't heard much about the police operations, probably they are now planning it carefully.

He really wanted to be the most powerful drug leader then he can do it even not as President, he can actually do it while he is just a Davao Mayor, but nope, he did not do it. Why? Because he really hates drugs. Just do some research about his life, he might be a killer during his Mayor but it is for the sake of his City not for his own good.

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I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

Of course, we need to feel the changes that are happening, eradicating those that are eye sores in the society. But it should be done in the proper way, not the way I am seeing it days weeks ago. There should be a fair justice to all, and they should not be killed as if they are mice running around being shut.

Though they are not just done by the authorities ( killings ) , it is their mandate to serve and protect their people.

Im agree that I feel some changes when President Duterte came to office.War on drugs is on hold but they're focusing to cleanse the organization of PNP because they're knew that some officials they protected drugs.

"Some officials"! I think that's all. I'm not sure that he Duterte at war with drugs. It seems to me that he is fighting for to lead this trade. Of course he's not talking about it openly. But the methods of struggle give it.

Nope, I doubt that the President really wants to liquidate those other drug dealers for his own sake of leading the drug market. Besides, he might not need it anymore, he has all the power in the country, he can just be a corrupt than being a drug dealer.

This past days, I haven't heard much about the police operations, probably they are now planning it carefully.

For politicians to have power is not enough. They come to power to earn a lot of money. When the Philippine economy is weak then how he earns money? The drug trade is big money.

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Quote from: NyeFee on February 09, 2017, 07:39:22 AM

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I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

Of course, we need to feel the changes that are happening, eradicating those that are eye sores in the society. But it should be done in the proper way, not the way I am seeing it days weeks ago. There should be a fair justice to all, and they should not be killed as if they are mice running around being shut.

Though they are not just done by the authorities ( killings ) , it is their mandate to serve and protect their people.

Im agree that I feel some changes when President Duterte came to office.War on drugs is on hold but they're focusing to cleanse the organization of PNP because they're knew that some officials they protected drugs.

"Some officials"! I think that's all. I'm not sure that he Duterte at war with drugs. It seems to me that he is fighting for to lead this trade. Of course he's not talking about it openly. But the methods of struggle give it.

Nope, I doubt that the President really wants to liquidate those other drug dealers for his own sake of leading the drug market. Besides, he might not need it anymore, he has all the power in the country, he can just be a corrupt than being a drug dealer.

This past days, I haven't heard much about the police operations, probably they are now planning it carefully.

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Quote from: GreenBits on February 09, 2017, 05:24:32 AM

Quote from: diegz on February 09, 2017, 12:11:29 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 09, 2017, 12:04:00 AM

I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

Of course, we need to feel the changes that are happening, eradicating those that are eye sores in the society. But it should be done in the proper way, not the way I am seeing it days weeks ago. There should be a fair justice to all, and they should not be killed as if they are mice running around being shut.

Though they are not just done by the authorities ( killings ) , it is their mandate to serve and protect their people.

Im agree that I feel some changes when President Duterte came to office.War on drugs is on hold but they're focusing to cleanse the organization of PNP because they're knew that some officials they protected drugs.

"Some officials"! I think that's all. I'm not sure that he Duterte at war with drugs. It seems to me that he is fighting for to lead this trade. Of course he's not talking about it openly. But the methods of struggle give it.

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Quote from: diegz on February 09, 2017, 12:11:29 AM

Quote from: Flamma on February 09, 2017, 12:04:00 AM

I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

Of course, we need to feel the changes that are happening, eradicating those that are eye sores in the society. But it should be done in the proper way, not the way I am seeing it days weeks ago. There should be a fair justice to all, and they should not be killed as if they are mice running around being shut.

Though they are not just done by the authorities ( killings ) , it is their mandate to serve and protect their people.

Im agree that I feel some changes when President Duterte came to office.War on drugs is on hold but they're focusing to cleanse the organization of PNP because they're knew that some officials they protected drugs.

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Quote from: Flamma on February 09, 2017, 12:04:00 AM

I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

Of course, we need to feel the changes that are happening, eradicating those that are eye sores in the society. But it should be done in the proper way, not the way I am seeing it days weeks ago. There should be a fair justice to all, and they should not be killed as if they are mice running around being shut.

Though they are not just done by the authorities ( killings ) , it is their mandate to serve and protect their people.

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I think its good that the Philippines is getting a different treatment this time. I believe change is inevitable and the people need to feel this to progress. A lot more will happen and the country needs to be prepared. Some might find it overwhelming, scary even but it's better than no change at all.

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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.

Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.

I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.

I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?

vendetta or whatever it is, its their own fight. the government could care less to it. there are far worse that is happening in some other countries like dropping a bomb to a village than killing the merciless drug personalities. they'd be lucky they died and not in the hands of several felons inside.

When you talk about the bombs dropped on civilians in Syria? Do Putin and Assad are tyrants who deserve death, but do not forget that Duterte also wants to be friends with Putin. For me it means that it is the same.

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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.

Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.

I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.

I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?

vendetta or whatever it is, its their own fight. the government could care less to it. there are far worse that is happening in some other countries like dropping a bomb to a village than killing the merciless drug personalities. they'd be lucky they died and not in the hands of several felons inside.

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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.

Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.

I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.

I am sure that under the guise of the drug war in the Philippines is a civil war. In such conflicts is always a lot of personal. And in this civil war there is always a place for vendetta. You agree with that?

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As a Filipino I find it difficult to truly appreciate President Duterte. Yes, addiction on drugs should be stopped and discipline is a must but killing people immediately is immoral. We are cleansing our nation but we also affect other people the good ones, some police officers killed innocent children for being inaccurate in shooting the drug user and that's totally wrong. I think we should think of better ways than killing directly.

Till now, I think around 6,000 people were shot dead by the vigilante squads and the police. There is no doubt that at least 20% or 30% of them were innocent civilians who didn't had any connection with the drug business.

Again what is your source that 6000 people dead by war on drugs and the 20-30% is innocent? From the bias report right.?If 30% you know that innocent and not connected to drugs the total innocence killed is 1800 peoples.Please dont spread fake news.

I can assume that these studies were built on communication with relatives of the victims of criminals. Give me somebody from relatives who recognize that a member of their family was a criminal.

No. I was not referring to such interviews. There were a few cases where the victim was killed just because of some personal vendetta with the members of the vigilante squads. Only a few such cases were uncovered, but many remain hidden.

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I see that a lot of people are talking about the Philippines and their President. So how exactly is he achieving this. Is this the guy who's like killing them, even if they come from another country? If so it would be interesting how such tactic turn out.

No he dont like killings watch one of his video when he said about killings he needs to do it to save his nation all he wants is PEACE in his country and to achieve you need ORDER to fix the country and DEVELOPED in the near future. His mind is far from ordinary person his vision is too wide too many plans and v ery unpredictable moves. But at the end of the day he makes the dream becomes reality.

He who supports prohibition is fascist corrupt scum, always and everywhere. Ignorance is no excuse.

Drugs are too dangerous to put in the hands of criminals.

Sometimes, who are those supporting are the one who have the main idea and sometimes he/she is the source of drug dealers. Drugs is very dangerous if misused, sometimes we are not well practice about this drugs, sometimes, drugs user abuses themselves, they overuses drugs, and lead them to be addicted with it.

Absolutely true. Instead of prohibition and so-called profiteering from these dangers, we should be pursuing education and treatment. Prohibition says "we don't care about you - we just want to pretend we are profiting from your troubles by institutionalizing fascism". Don't put up with it. Speak out against it and pursue the rational course suggested by religious leaders, law enforcement, and really anybody who is literate: end drug prohibition.

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Quote from: darklus123 on February 01, 2017, 02:18:23 PM

This is the reason why i salute duterte. He is a political genius as experts says. By his words there were corresponding actions. However i still dont believe that its him who commits edjk here it was still those syndicate them selves

One thing that I love President Duterte is that he really cares about his nation, even all corrupt politics will hate him he doesn't care, he also receives a lot of death threat almost everyday. But he is willing to die for his country, this is a wake up call in the Philippines that if you want to have a big change we have to support Duterte and change our self as well, don't just watch.

This is the one reason why Philippines are going to go on its highest peak, we should follow our own President, if we want to change our economy. There a big change if we follow our president, we know that President Duterte can change Philippines. First on drugs, a lot of drug dealers and drug addicts have been arrested. New rules, regulations and laws are implemented to make Philippines to change.

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