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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2024, 03:11:16 PM

Which will give a better profit within 8 years.

Bitcoin holding depends on how long the holder will keep the Bitcoin. There are many investors who hold Bitcoin for a short period of time, and those who hold in the DCA method rely on accumulating Bitcoin for the next few years. Following either method of DCA method and buying Bitcoin deep, accumulating Bitcoin until the future bear market will certainly be enough for a common investor.
However, I think the DCA method is the most acceptable, in this method any person can play a sufficient role in investing in Bitcoin at any time. And until the next bear market, his accumulated Bitcoin will take a large size.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2024, 03:11:16 PM

Just as the title suggests, which is a better method of bitcoin investment. I will appreciate an in-depth explanation with relatable historical data.

1. Buying and hodling BTC for two circles (two bear and two, 8 years).
2. Buying and hodling BTC for only one circle, sell all during the bull run and wait for the next circle to buy again.
3. Buying and hodling BTC for one circle, sell 50% during bull run and leave 50% to continue investment in the next circle?

Which will give a better profit within 8 years.

This is a nice strategy but do you think every crypto holders would be ready to follow this strategy that looks like it is very easy to follow? Why would you hold Bitcoin for two circle without selling and buying the dip? Maybe you don't actually understand what holding actually means. Although it all depends on how much you are holding as na investor. If you are holding less than 1 BTC, you can actually sell part of the holdings and to buy again when price falls. In a Bitcoin bill market, we could see price ranging for couples of weeks or months because the bull will continue. In this kind of ranging market, don't you think it well be an opportunity to be buying and selling before the price keeps skyrocketing?

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2024, 03:11:16 PM

Just as the title suggests, which is a better method of bitcoin investment. I will appreciate an in-depth explanation with relatable historical data.

1. Buying and hodling BTC for two circles (two bear and two, 8 years).
2. Buying and hodling BTC for only one circle, sell all during the bull run and wait for the next circle to buy again.
3. Buying and hodling BTC for one circle, sell 50% during bull run and leave 50% to continue investment in the next circle?

Which will give a better profit within 8 years.

In my case, since I own little bitcoin, I always preferred to hold instead of trying to guess the right time to sell and then, eventually, buy again. I may try to do things in a different way since bitcoin has grown a lot during the last months so probably I'll start selling 10% at a certain price, then another 10% at a higher price and so on until when I eventually sold half of what I own. The rest I'm going to hold it anyway, no matter the price.

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Quote from: Onyeeze on December 12, 2024, 04:36:47 PM

The best way to make a profit in Bitcoin investment is to buy bitcoin and the hood for long time because if you buy Bitcoin and they sell Bitcoin in space of 3 months you will not make a profit but the process we have by you purchase Bitcoin and hold it 4 years to 8 years you will make a profit because during the time you are holding your Bitcoin they must be increase in the market that will make you to have a triple of the Bitcoin you purchase, so for me I preferred holding bitcoin for long time instead of buying and selling within space of 4 to 5 months that is not encouraging for me but holding for 4 years or 8 years should be more preferable because of bullrun season can manifest on the process of holding

That is like one of the most intresting ways to explore bitcoin when you decide to buy and hold, holding for a short time might not really favor anyone so it is better to hold to buy and hold for a long time and that way you will have confidence in your investment because that is even what matters and the problem people usually face is having the patience to hold for a long time and those that have been holding when bitcoin was experiencing bear and now things are much better and anyone can actually better there expection by having high hopes because there is no way that you will invest in bitcoin and be disappointed.

And this are part of the reasons why we even have to hold bitcoin specifically, I am not really a fan of investing in Altcoins because the driving force of them all is still bitcoin so why not just invest in bitcoin and make profit but just because of the profit others want to make they will prefer to invest in altcoin and it is not all that work so they should continue with what they feel works for them.

And it is not somthing you force on anyone because if it eventually fails they will put the blame on you so let them make there on decision on what they want to invest in and they will bear with consequences of there decisions.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on December 22, 2024, 03:48:23 PM

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Sometimes what seems simple when done will feel much more difficult than imagined. In a rough view it is true that being in bitcoin is only when buying at a low price and selling it at a higher price but such a view is only for those who have never felt how to be in bitcoin and experienced several complicated cycles as a process when we become an investor considering that when you feel you are in bitcoin I'm pretty sure everyone has felt indecision and even wants to give up in the middle of the road in the investment process that is done.

The fact that this is not as simple as thought is proof that we still have a lot to learn in order to continue to convince ourselves to stay in bitcoin. Regardless of what method is done and how long we are in bitcoin in the end it all depends on confidence, readiness and how strong our hands are in hodl for bitcoin itself.

Experienced bitcoin investors know when to buy and when to get out. So don't be surprised if you find seasonal investors who take advantage of the rising cycle to get returns without having to hold on too long for years. They may have missed the opportunity to buy at the lowest price between the two cycles, but they ended up making a profit.

To get a return of 2x or more from a bitcoin investment, an investor must start investing 12 or 15 months before the halving. I think it is the right time to invest because I think the lowest prices are at that time. This is just an analysis based on historical market data, not something that can be considered financial advice despite the fact that it is really useful in my opinion.

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Quote from: Stalker22 on December 22, 2024, 03:48:23 PM

Sell high and buy low sounds simple in theory. But actually pulling the trigger at the right moments takes some skill and luck. Our emotions often mess things up too. When coins are pumping FOMO kicks in and we get greedy. Then when it crashes, fear sets in and we panic sell. Making level-headed decisions is tough when feelings are running high.

Sometimes what seems simple when done will feel much more difficult than imagined. In a rough view it is true that being in bitcoin is only when buying at a low price and selling it at a higher price but such a view is only for those who have never felt how to be in bitcoin and experienced several complicated cycles as a process when we become an investor considering that when you feel you are in bitcoin I'm pretty sure everyone has felt indecision and even wants to give up in the middle of the road in the investment process that is done.

The fact that this is not as simple as thought is proof that we still have a lot to learn in order to continue to convince ourselves to stay in bitcoin. Regardless of what method is done and how long we are in bitcoin in the end it all depends on confidence, readiness and how strong our hands are in hodl for bitcoin itself.

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Quote from: JiiBs on December 22, 2024, 01:58:56 PM

I think where one can make the most money in this and frankly the preferable if you know how is:

Buying and holding for a circle and having to sell when it’s at ATH and buy back during the bearish market.

That would be an idea strategy but, if it’s an easy thing to do, nope. I don’t think so as, it ain’t easy to note just that point where it’s an ATH for a bullish season while it’s in play, which would have been the notifier to sell and when the market is at its dip to buy back. These only means, your likely going to procrastinate and eventually, turn out holding which is still very good.

Yeah! Timing the crypto market is tricky business, thats for sure. Calling the top of a bull run or bottom of a bear market - good luck with that! I mean, easier said than done, right?

Sell high and buy low sounds simple in theory. But actually pulling the trigger at the right moments takes some skill and luck. Our emotions often mess things up too. When coins are pumping FOMO kicks in and we get greedy. Then when it crashes, fear sets in and we panic sell. Making level-headed decisions is tough when feelings are running high.

Ive learned the hard way that perfectly timing this volatile market is next to impossible. These days, I just try to stick to my plan without getting caught up in the hype. Some broad rules of thumb help, like taking profits when things get euphoric and buying dips after major sell-offs. But even then who really knows when weve hit the top or bottom?

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 29, 2024, 03:16:15 PM

I prefer to buy and hold bitcoin for only one circle, sell all during the bull run when the price has already increased significantly and wait for the next circle to buy again. I will buy when the bear market has been very significant. But it is hard to know the bottom, so I DCA during the time especially if the price hit bottom much further.

Most definitely this is the best approach because on two occasions I have made the mistake of falling to sell within a cycle, the first was when the all-time high price of 94k-95k bitcoin price happened some time ago when the bitcoin halving cycles and the ETFs news were making around some time march-Aprile 2020, I hold the bitcoin Instead od selling them and wait to buy back at the bottom., anyways, that has become my lesson and going forward I won't let such mistakes repeat itself.

Selling at the top, multiple times within a cycle if done correctly can give you such speed in your Bitcoin accumulation, but one needs to be careful also in doing that to avoid falling into the trap of selling at the wrong time or buying at the wrong time.

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I think where one can make the most money in this and frankly the preferable if you know how is:

Buying and holding for a circle and having to sell when it’s at ATH and buy back during the bearish market.

That would be an idea strategy but, if it’s an easy thing to do, nope. I don’t think so as, it ain’t easy to note just that point where it’s an ATH for a bullish season while it’s in play, which would have been the notifier to sell and when the market is at its dip to buy back. These only means, your likely going to procrastinate and eventually, turn out holding which is still very good.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 18, 2024, 03:32:27 PM

I could set that range of holding until 8 years but I don't get to hold what might happen within those years until I reach 8 years. That's two cycle in there and I know that many can hold for that long but we don't know what's with the future. I mean for ourselves and not for Bitcoin. I can hold as long as I can but if there are some instances that I have no choice and forced to sell some of it, I'd do it because I admit that I did in the past that now I always get to remember those early days that I'm able to sell off too soon.

The only way for us to keep holding is if we keep it away from us. Don’t store it in exchanges and make sure that you have a stable source of income as well as savings enough for emergencies so that you don’t move your holdings no matter what. But again only a financially stable person can do this and not everyone can be no matter how much they work for it.

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Quote from: uchegod-21 on November 29, 2024, 03:11:16 PM

Just as the title suggests, which is a better method of bitcoin investment. I will appreciate an in-depth explanation with relatable historical data.

1. Buying and hodling BTC for two circles (two bear and two, 8 years).
2. Buying and hodling BTC for only one circle, sell all during the bull run and wait for the next circle to buy again.
3. Buying and hodling BTC for one circle, sell 50% during bull run and leave 50% to continue investment in the next circle?

Which will give a better profit within 8 years.

This can depend on the side of one's ability to buy because usually people who have money will buy and hold it until ATH arrives, while people who have smaller capital they can choose point number three to increase the amount of bitcoin they have. But if the question is given to me then I will choose to buy and hold it so that when the price hits ATH I will sell some percentage to get profit and then wait for a drop to buy in a much larger amount from the profit obtained.

The pattern can be different and maybe everyone has a much more understandable concept to run. But the most important thing is how the process can be carried out consistently to increase the amount of bitcoin ownership that we have.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on December 19, 2024, 11:30:21 AM

Because the history of Bitcoin proves that holding through long-term DCA is the most effective method of achieving success from Bitcoin investment.

This is the most important thing, if we look at the entire history of bitcoin, those who sold at $10k lost because it then rose to over $19k, those who sold at $40k then lost because its ATH reached $73k and those who sold at $70-$75k lost because btc exceeded $100k, what does this give as an example? We must have a broad vision above all, we need to see that this has the best of futures, it doesn't matter to wait 5-10 years to see the good results and benefits of this investment in bitcoin, is it worth it? Absolutely.

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If you want to enjoy your Bitcoin it is good for you to purchase a Bitcoin and hold for long time because holding a Bitcoin you will be at advantages side of it so I believe that it is what will make you to make a profit is by holding a bitcoin for long time using people who hold Bitcoin from 2015 till date as a reference, you will see that the profit they have made from the time they hold bitcoin till date, is something different from short term holders

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 18, 2024, 03:32:27 PM

I could set that range of holding until 8 years but I don't get to hold what might happen within those years until I reach 8 years. That's two cycle in there and I know that many can hold for that long but we don't know what's with the future. I mean for ourselves and not for Bitcoin. I can hold as long as I can but if there are some instances that I have no choice and forced to sell some of it, I'd do it because I admit that I did in the past that now I always get to remember those early days that I'm able to sell off too soon.

8 years is so big that a lot will happen, like in 8 years if you plan, you can get married within that year and get 2 kids with good spacing Grin

Joke aside, there is much more that can happen to use within that period but if you really have your own money and source of income, you shouldn't have any problem about holding, most often what made us sell our coins are financial problems when we seems not to have any alternatives to solve those problems.

As for Bitcoin, 8 years means twice administration are going to happen in the US and that's means new government. Since US now has a lot of effect on Bitcoin market, there is going to be a lot of here and there in Bitcoin. Hopefully anti crypto person doesn't becomes a president so they don't destroy that dream of Bitcoin been a reserve in the united started that many has ways dream, Bitcoin growth in that country is a quick success growth on other places.

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Quote from: Ricardo11 on December 19, 2024, 11:30:21 AM

In fact, when an investor holding his Bitcoin investment for 10 years or more, only then he can expect an positive effective result.
Because the history of Bitcoin proves that holding through long-term DCA is the most effective method of achieving success from Bitcoin investment.

I have also seen many investors who have invested for a long time but have seen a good position in Bitcoin only after 2-3 years. I had a friend who had been investing in Bitcoin little by little since 2020 and was making a good profit. The investment trend can be thought of in several ways. If you are investing, you will see the profit of your investment within a few days, and there will be a time when you will not believe yourself when you see the price of Bitcoin, which is what many people are seeing now.

When investing in Bitcoin, it is actually best to invest for the long term. The most difficult thing is to continue to move forward with investment. Many can maintain it, and it can be seen that many cannot maintain it and stop it for a short time. This can't be done. If you want to invest long-term, you have to leave the investment stars inside.

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Quote from: icalical on December 18, 2024, 01:44:28 AM

Quote from: danadc on December 17, 2024, 11:26:57 PM

Anything that is buying bitcoin and selling in 10 or more years is the best strategy, that is what big investors do, there are also those who want to invest and collect profits quickly, but since bitcoin is so volatile it is very difficult to determine when it will rise with great intensity to sell, those who are traders do it, but they have to do many operations, the investment is a matter of time, of having patience and of having a lot of mind in what you want no matter what happens along the way, they have to resist all the crises that arise and be faithful in the investment, in bitcoin it is safe.

I wouldn't call holding bitcoin for 10 years is 'buy and sell strategy' more like hodling stratgey, while I do agree that holding bitcoin is better because it has more potential profit, we can also take advantages from the swings in Bitcoin's price, short-term trading can also work. Though holding requires one to have patience and faith during the market crises, on the contrary, trading may be more risky but rewarding in the short run. All in all, it depends upon our financial goals and the risk we are willing to take, as both short term and long term approaches has it's own pros and cons

Agreed, in fact, in the case of Bitcoin investment, we must decide to invest for at least 10 years or more, because by researching the history of Bitcoin, we will know that Bitcoin fluctuates more in the short term, but in the long term, Bitcoin continues to increase over time.
That is, Bitcoin is a volatile asset in the short term, so short-term investment is definitely much more risky, which is why, a long-term holding perspective should be taken in volatile assets like Bitcoin, which should be at least 10 years and more.
In fact, when an investor holding his Bitcoin investment for 10 years or more, only then he can expect an positive effective result.
Because the history of Bitcoin proves that holding through long-term DCA is the most effective method of achieving success from Bitcoin investment.

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Quote from: passwordnow on December 18, 2024, 03:32:27 PM

I could set that range of holding until 8 years but I don't get to hold what might happen within those years until I reach 8 years. That's two cycle in there and I know that many can hold for that long but we don't know what's with the future. I mean for ourselves and not for Bitcoin. I can hold as long as I can but if there are some instances that I have no choice and forced to sell some of it, I'd do it because I admit that I did in the past that now I always get to remember those early days that I'm able to sell off too soon.

I understand your point, lots of people would love to hold for as long as possible but due to certain circumstances like future uncertain things like death, blindness, loss of memory and the rest that could happen to an individual, i think some people would prefer to go with the second option, however in case of situation as mentioned above, i think the adoption of a banking strategy (next of kin) could be implemented and the asset would be claimed by another trusted person. But the best approach i think about when it comes to investing on Bitcoin is buying and holding for a long as one can, so far it's beyond and full circle and gradually adding to your portfolio on different intervals. However all the strategies the OP mentioned are very reliable, depending on individuals cause and how patient one can be.

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All the strategies you describe can be profitable, but again, everyone will be different in implementing strategies to achieve the desired target. Do not equate our capital strength with others, because other people who have a lot of capital will not worry if there is floating, so be wise if we want to enter the world of investment, cold money of course.

The important thing in bitcoin investment is to have a goal, and I myself am more comfortable buying bitcoin and then storing it in one circle or one cycle, when a bull run occurs, sell half of it and then save the other half for the next cycle. This also depends on my needs, because I am not someone who has a lot of money, sometimes when I have made a profit I sell. So the mechanism is to sell 50% when it goes up, buy back when it goes down, I also often do this repeatedly according to the purchase target.

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I could set that range of holding until 8 years but I don't get to hold what might happen within those years until I reach 8 years. That's two cycle in there and I know that many can hold for that long but we don't know what's with the future. I mean for ourselves and not for Bitcoin. I can hold as long as I can but if there are some instances that I have no choice and forced to sell some of it, I'd do it because I admit that I did in the past that now I always get to remember those early days that I'm able to sell off too soon.

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Quote from: Bd officer on December 18, 2024, 03:46:17 AM

Investing in Bitcoin and holding it for the long term is most profitable, if you can hold Bitcoin for a long time then you can be a successful investor. Now everyone's plan is not the same. Some plan to hold for long term and some for short term. Some buy bitcoins in the bear market and sell them in bullrun. However in my case I prefer to hold the investment for long term. My plan is to gradually increase the investment amount by investing in Bitcoin using the DCA method. I started investing in DCA method from the beginning of 2023, I plan not to sell bitcoins in this bullrun. My plan is to gradually invest in DCA system till 2028-29.

Good that you understand what you can achieve in the future to come.
Happy hodling to you. Today is the day when it all started, after all.
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