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Topic: A bitcoin miner in every hand - page 9. (Read 8171 times)

sr. member
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May 18, 2015, 11:38:27 PM
#6

It seems like a article just to get them publicity.  We are so far from in every hand, we need a lot more exposure.

And in every device just will never happen.  Some devices would be great other devices make no sense.  Like something you want longer battery life on... you would not put a miner in it.

You dont think technology will be able to overcome short battery life on devices? i Figured we would already have overcome this small step, but the constant flow of data and the heat caused by would mean alot of these devices have short lifespan which would mean more turn around on replacements and even more money in big companies pockets...
legendary
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May 18, 2015, 11:25:16 PM
#5
as a way to get people interested - its cool. but the application of it is stupid.

Lets start at the top:
1) mining will make the phone hot. without a fan or heatsinks, its likely that even 5W worth of mining will get hot to the touch, and possibly a fire hazard if the phone is stuck in the couch under a blanket or pillow.
2) 5W is about 10GH worth of mining, maybe a bit more. Thats about 0.0001BTC/day when operating 24/7
3) That sort of power draw is completely impractical any time the phone isnt plugged in and on a non-flammable surface, so 2-4hrs of mining a day is more likely.
4) that means to earn $5 (the very cheapest price that a mining chip could be produced and integrated into a cellphone for) could take anything from 220days (at 24/7) to >6years if you mine 6hrs/day
5) The above does not factor in the power cost. which is probably 50% more costly than the bitcoins produced (for the average residential electricity cost)


short story: they would be better off issueing a $5 BTC voucher with the purchase of a phone, then to design a phone that makes pennies a day while operating at uncomfortable temperatures and having battery issues.

       the same goes for any 'IoT' concepts that involve building bitcoin miners in places/objects that would be mining for anything less than 12hrs/day using residential eletricity.

And another thing on phones and laptops is battery life.  If it mines when your not using it think of wifi, processor, ram, etc that would be running during off time.

I just don't see this for most products.   Water heater, space heater, etc. Yes very easily could do.  I just think this company keeps putting these out to get looked at.  And possibly trying to get more investors.  They can't believe all that they say even.
legendary
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ASIC Wannabe
May 18, 2015, 11:18:35 PM
#4
as a way to get people interested - its cool. but the application of it is stupid.

Lets start at the top:
1) mining will make the phone hot. without a fan or heatsinks, its likely that even 5W worth of mining will get hot to the touch, and possibly a fire hazard if the phone is stuck in the couch under a blanket or pillow.
2) 5W is about 10GH worth of mining, maybe a bit more. Thats about 0.0001BTC/day when operating 24/7
3) That sort of power draw is completely impractical any time the phone isnt plugged in and on a non-flammable surface, so 2-4hrs of mining a day is more likely.
4) that means to earn $5 (the very cheapest price that a mining chip could be produced and integrated into a cellphone for) could take anything from 220days (at 24/7) to >6years if you mine 6hrs/day
5) The above does not factor in the power cost. which is probably 50% more costly than the bitcoins produced (for the average residential electricity cost)


short story: they would be better off issueing a $5 BTC voucher with the purchase of a phone, then to design a phone that makes pennies a day while operating at uncomfortable temperatures and having battery issues.

       the same goes for any 'IoT' concepts that involve building bitcoin miners in places/objects that would be mining for anything less than 12hrs/day using residential eletricity.
legendary
Activity: 1456
Merit: 1000
May 18, 2015, 09:25:17 PM
#3

It seems like a article just to get them publicity.  We are so far from in every hand, we need a lot more exposure.

And in every device just will never happen.  Some devices would be great other devices make no sense.  Like something you want longer battery life on... you would not put a miner in it.
legendary
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May 18, 2015, 09:24:08 PM
#2
It must! Anyone knows about the cell phones power requirements in standby mode and in full power mode? We need to figure out some numbers because I would like to figure out how much power will the bitcoin mining use.
legendary
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