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Correct me if I'm wrong, but orphans still give 1250 coins per block. So I don't see the big deal.
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on a completely unrelated topic from my post above.....


something is up with orphans. 

4 in the last 24 hours seems high when the total for the last week is 7, and "lifetime" (yes i know the pool is young) is 10.

that means that 40 percent of orphans came in the last 24 hours, which seems abnormal.

edit:

just checked suprnova, and they're showing 1 orphan in the last 24 hours and 6 in the last week.  they also found a tenfold or so more blocks in that period, so they technically should have many more orphans, not less.

so yeah, something is up with the orphans.


full member
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my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD

nope, pretty sure im in the right pool. sometimes the worker is there, sometimes its not whenever i check.

and the hashrate is not same with what my miner says. im using gtx 1070 for denarius mining and my miner always show around 53mh hashrate, the dashboard randomly range from 27 to 130, or 0 when the worker went inactive.

lol I thought u're talking about sigt pool

im mining sigt too. same things are occurring.  Undecided

well for me is the same, the hasrate is not stable

your hashrate in the miner and the pool will always vary a bit, that's not abnormal.

it's much more pronounced with this miner/pool combo, though.  the pool tends to jack up worker diff way too high, and this makes smaller rigs choke up.

for example, as i'm typing this, all of my rigs are shown to be set at 248 diff by the pool.  my x6gpu rig has zero issues handling it, and is humming right along.  however, my x2 and x1 rigs are struggling to submit work consistently.

and that's what you're seeing at the pool - inconsistency.  smaller rigs just don't get the time they need to submit shares at this high difficulty.  you can easily see that when you look at the miner window for smaller rigs - if you see a lot of "mean netdiff" and not a lot of "share", then your card is choking and is not submitting shares consistently.

this is why you're seeing wild fluctuations in hashrate with smaller rigs at the pool.   they are working at a very high worker diff, so when blocks are fast they simply do not have the time they need to finish their calculations and submit a share before a block is found.  this is why you will occasionally see them appear to drop off from the pool.  they didn't really drop off, they just didn't submit any shares in the x amount of time the pool uses to calculate your hashrate.  so let's say it takes 60 seconds for the pool to update your worker hashrate, and in that minute your rig didn't submit any shares - it will appear to drop off from the pool.  reverse that for when the blocks are slow - smaller rigs get enough time to breathe and start submitting shares.  because of the high worker diff, they are submitting large shares.  when that happens you will see your hashrate go up wildly.  for example, it's not unusual for me to see one of my x1 1070 rigs appear to drop off the pool, and then reappear with the hashrate of 90-120mh (3x4 it's normal sigt speed) a minute later.

like i said, all my rigs right now are set by the pool to mine at worker diff of 248.  x6 rig has plenty of power to consistently submit shares, and its hashrate at the pool is consistent.  it does fluctuate a bit here and there, but it's close to what it's supposed to be.  my x2gpu rig has a harder time keeping up with this diff and is wild.  my x1's are just all over the place, sometimes disappearing from pool for long stretches (didn't submit any shares) and then reappearing at 3 to 4x their hashrate.

this isn't a new thing, and has been brought in this thread - so the devs are aware that this is happening. 

not sure if there is a fix coming, or they plan to leave it this way, but since i started mining here this has been my one and only problem with this miner/pool combo - i am literally happy with everything, except this Smiley
newbie
Activity: 44
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my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD

nope, pretty sure im in the right pool. sometimes the worker is there, sometimes its not whenever i check.

and the hashrate is not same with what my miner says. im using gtx 1070 for denarius mining and my miner always show around 53mh hashrate, the dashboard randomly range from 27 to 130, or 0 when the worker went inactive.

lol I thought u're talking about sigt pool

im mining sigt too. same things are occurring.  Undecided

well for me is the same, the hasrate is not stable
sr. member
Activity: 326
Merit: 250

Read my upper post. I asked the simplest solution. I dont need to shut down GPU-s. I just need to close the miner application.

IF temp on GPU 0 or 1 or 2 or whatever = 70 degrees - Close CWIgm.exe

try

--max-temp=70 option

That doesnt do what i was looking for. It just throttles ur GPU, like, slows it down to keep temperature under that number. And it slows down ur mining or stops it on that GPU if it needs to throttle GPU too much.

ok, if you want just close miner app, use external batch file.

for get temp use nvidia-smi.exe --id=0 --query-gpu=temperature.gpu --format=csv,noheader,nounits , where --id=0 - you GPU


like as (for 6 GPUs)

for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=0 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp0=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=1 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp1=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=2 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp2=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=3 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp3=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=4 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp4=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=5 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp5=%%p
set /a total=%gpu_temp0%+%gpu_temp1%+%gpu_temp2%+%gpu_temp3%+%gpu_temp4%+%gpu_temp5%
set /a gpu_tempaverage=%total%/6

if %gpu_tempaverage% GTR 70 (
   TASKKILL /IM cwigm.exe
)


Damnnn! Thanks broski. I'll try it out!
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD

nope, pretty sure im in the right pool. sometimes the worker is there, sometimes its not whenever i check.

and the hashrate is not same with what my miner says. im using gtx 1070 for denarius mining and my miner always show around 53mh hashrate, the dashboard randomly range from 27 to 130, or 0 when the worker went inactive.

lol I thought u're talking about sigt pool

im mining sigt too. same things are occurring.  Undecided
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
Anybody explain to me what is ORPHANED on trasactions? Only see from today
nfr
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD

nope, pretty sure im in the right pool. sometimes the worker is there, sometimes its not whenever i check.

and the hashrate is not same with what my miner says. im using gtx 1070 for denarius mining and my miner always show around 53mh hashrate, the dashboard randomly range from 27 to 130, or 0 when the worker went inactive.

lol I thought u're talking about sigt pool
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD

nope, pretty sure im in the right pool. sometimes the worker is there, sometimes its not whenever i check.

and the hashrate is not same with what my miner says. im using gtx 1070 for denarius mining and my miner always show around 53mh hashrate, the dashboard randomly range from 27 to 130, or 0 when the worker went inactive.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
What is ORPHANED on trasactions?
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0

Read my upper post. I asked the simplest solution. I dont need to shut down GPU-s. I just need to close the miner application.

IF temp on GPU 0 or 1 or 2 or whatever = 70 degrees - Close CWIgm.exe

try

--max-temp=70 option

That doesnt do what i was looking for. It just throttles ur GPU, like, slows it down to keep temperature under that number. And it slows down ur mining or stops it on that GPU if it needs to throttle GPU too much.

ok, if you want just close miner app, use external batch file.

for get temp use nvidia-smi.exe --id=0 --query-gpu=temperature.gpu --format=csv,noheader,nounits , where --id=0 - you GPU


like as (for 6 GPUs)

for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=0 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp0=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=1 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp1=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=2 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp2=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=3 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp3=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=4 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp4=%%p
for /F %%p in ('"C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NVSMI\nvidia-smi" --id^=5 --query-gpu^=temperature.gpu --format^=csv^,noheader^,nounits') do set gpu_temp5=%%p
set /a total=%gpu_temp0%+%gpu_temp1%+%gpu_temp2%+%gpu_temp3%+%gpu_temp4%+%gpu_temp5%
set /a gpu_tempaverage=%total%/6

if %gpu_tempaverage% GTR 70 (
   TASKKILL /IM cwigm.exe
)
newbie
Activity: 44
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares

this is a dumb question but yor are cheking your coin dashboard? because there is a loot of coins on the pool, make sure you are on the rigth coin it happensd to me xD
newbie
Activity: 59
Merit: 0
Hi, can you please PM with the details? I have been mining to your pool using a different miner, but wouldn't mind testing out CWIgm!
nfr
newbie
Activity: 15
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?

yep cant access dashboard,
but am still receiving shares
newbie
Activity: 10
Merit: 0
my miner seems to be working fine but on my dashboard, the worker is not active. therefore my hashrate is 0  Huh

but i still getting my coins. is it a bug?
legendary
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Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
@crysx do you do any maintenance to the pool?

3 times my miner went idle in the last 12 hours  Undecided

which pool? ...

you ask as if we only have one pool Wink ...

i have been doing maintenance - yes ... some of the maintenance does not involve the stratum - others do ... its a short 25second interval between stratum drop and uptime - so its a very small effect on the uptime of the pool ... however - there have been attacks on a regular basis - and we know which ips they are coming from which tends make me believe that some 'badboys' may be commissioned to do some stuffing around with ddos and hacking ... if this is the case - we have a legal issue on our hands - and will fight it to the end ...

either way - we will continue to improve the security AND stability of the pools as well as CWIgm ...

testing the sweep pool very shortly - so will have a bit of downtime on that pool also ... DO NOT mine on that pool please unless you are willing to test the pool ... this means you will probably LOSE your hashrate to the pool for testing purposes ... CWI-Pool SweepStakeCoin is in alpha - and is being tested internally ... will go to beta designation when we have finished with internal testing for public testing / use ...

#crysx

My bad - I was referring to sigt pool. Since last time the miner has been stable for the last 12 hours or so.

do you have eta on the new miner?
thanks

all good ...

and no ... i shall be very blunt with this question when it arises - as with all the questions like this that have been asked too many times now ...

if there is news - you can rest assured it will be published ... no news means we are still working in the background and on the backend ... we will NOT hype - just produce ... thats why our focus is not on anything else but our projects ...

Smiley ...

#crysx
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@crysx do you do any maintenance to the pool?

3 times my miner went idle in the last 12 hours  Undecided

which pool? ...

you ask as if we only have one pool Wink ...

i have been doing maintenance - yes ... some of the maintenance does not involve the stratum - others do ... its a short 25second interval between stratum drop and uptime - so its a very small effect on the uptime of the pool ... however - there have been attacks on a regular basis - and we know which ips they are coming from which tends make me believe that some 'badboys' may be commissioned to do some stuffing around with ddos and hacking ... if this is the case - we have a legal issue on our hands - and will fight it to the end ...

either way - we will continue to improve the security AND stability of the pools as well as CWIgm ...

testing the sweep pool very shortly - so will have a bit of downtime on that pool also ... DO NOT mine on that pool please unless you are willing to test the pool ... this means you will probably LOSE your hashrate to the pool for testing purposes ... CWI-Pool SweepStakeCoin is in alpha - and is being tested internally ... will go to beta designation when we have finished with internal testing for public testing / use ...

#crysx

My bad - I was referring to sigt pool. Since last time the miner has been stable for the last 12 hours or so.

do you have eta on the new miner?
thanks
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 1091
--- ChainWorks Industries ---
@crysx do you do any maintenance to the pool?

3 times my miner went idle in the last 12 hours  Undecided

which pool? ...

you ask as if we only have one pool Wink ...

i have been doing maintenance - yes ... some of the maintenance does not involve the stratum - others do ... its a short 25second interval between stratum drop and uptime - so its a very small effect on the uptime of the pool ... however - there have been attacks on a regular basis - and we know which ips they are coming from which tends make me believe that some 'badboys' may be commissioned to do some stuffing around with ddos and hacking ... if this is the case - we have a legal issue on our hands - and will fight it to the end ...

either way - we will continue to improve the security AND stability of the pools as well as CWIgm ...

testing the sweep pool very shortly - so will have a bit of downtime on that pool also ... DO NOT mine on that pool please unless you are willing to test the pool ... this means you will probably LOSE your hashrate to the pool for testing purposes ... CWI-Pool SweepStakeCoin is in alpha - and is being tested internally ... will go to beta designation when we have finished with internal testing for public testing / use ...

#crysx
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
1) One thing i noticed is that GPU 0 drops hash rate to 25 MH when I connect remotely to my rig. Is this expected? I don't believe other miners had this so pronounced.

2) Off topic. Your pool has nicest dashboard I saw so far .
1) I use internal gpu as main - so no drop of hashrate. If you don't have one use teamviewer, tightvnc etc. May be rdp to main console will also work - /admin parameter (haven't tried that).
2) Many other pool have the same frontend, e.g. look https://zoi.acc-pool.pw/

I use teamviewer when reported drop happens. But when I connect the GPU also has to draw screen before supplying to teamviewer or not? I also notice much more power fluctuation on same GPU when I am connected. But this is not really important because I just connect every other day to check temps a bit or change what is mining on the rig.

I read somewhere that it is better to turn off internal GPU when using PC as mining rig. That apparently frees some channels in MB and helps system work better when using multi GPUs.

these points are all true - depending on what your configuration of the cards are - miner - and os ...

mess around with the settings of all three and see what you get ...

there is no ONE way to do it - as each machine ( computer ) is unique and have different settings ... from bios to software settings ...

#crysx
legendary
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--- ChainWorks Industries ---
0.9.9 release please Smiley Stability, easy to use is ok but everybody first always see on mhs and $ Smiley

What to use in bat file to test latest version ccminer on your pool?

when CWIgm-0.9.9 is ready to be beta tested ...

depending on your machines - but if its a single system with its own worker on the pool - then -c --lodiff ...

otherwise - if it is a few machines on the one worker - leave the --lodiff parameter off ...

other settings to use are -i depending on what card you use and many others ...

read through the readme.txt that comes with your welcome pack and download ... it explained the parameters you can use for the cards and systems you have ...

#crysx


Crysx, i asked several times. Is there an option to turn off miner when certain temperature is met, for safety? If my rig temperatures jump for more then 15-20% then ussual something is wrong, and throttling has no use kinda. It will either work on lower temp or not work at all, no need to throttle GPU-s on which cooling started to be a problem. It's not a solution.

If you dont have it, why and it would be amazing to have it. Or do you know some other way how to turn off miner if i reach certain temperature.




there is no way to just turn off a card when something goes wrong ...

not even in the 5year old mature applications ( ccminer and sgminer ) that i know of ...

though that would be a great addition - but the 'why' part of your question is VERY difficult to answer ... the simple and short answer is - because its VERY difficult ...


Allow me to attempt explaining it: A program is a collection of one or more "threads" that you can think of as semi-independent little programs sharing memory. Most often, one is assigned per GPU you have, to handle giving that specific GPU work, and getting results from it. When you ask a GPU to do something - you are actually "calling" (or running code from, and waiting for it to tell you it finished and what went down) code from the driver. Keeping it simple - AMD develops the driver, which is buried deep in the OS and controls the hardware for you - so you can say "Run this shit and tell me what nonces are good" without having to care too much about the details. If a GPU has hung... it has hung inside the code that is deep in the shit that the miner dev usually doesn't even think about - let alone control. That thread is now "stuck", and will remain so until the entire program terminates. You may notice how when a GPU goes "DEAD" in SGMiner, the others continue to mine... this is why.

So, everything continues despite that thread's fucked status until somebody or something tells the whole miner program to quit... and therefore, all its threads must quit... oh shit. The OS can't actually terminate it properly - it's stuck in low-level code that happens to often be a core, low-level part of the OS itself... in short - we be fucked. Hard reboot to bring the GPU back up, in short.


Read my upper post. I asked the simplest solution. I dont need to shut down GPU-s. I just need to close the miner application.

IF temp on GPU 0 or 1 or 2 or whatever = 70 degrees - Close CWIgm.exe

Smiley ...

there ARE such scripts you can write to loop CWIgm into a reset ...

BUT - what you are asking is all part of the GPU MONITORING ... which is why such a details explanation for such a 'simple' question ...

you need to understand that an application needs to KNOW a gpu is dead or over heated BEFORE any actions can be taken ... which is the explanations you have above ..

so the answer is simple ( and mentioned earlier also ) - no there is no way of CWIgm or AND mining application to close when an event like that occurs BECAUSE it needs to KNOW that a gpu has overheated or died ... there maybe a command to put into a script that is ANY gpu reaches a certain temperature then shut down the miner - but that brings us back to the same issue with monitoring ... im sure windows has some utilities of tools that can help there - but we know of none that would monitor temps AND shut an application down in such events ...

without sounding offensive here - but anything missed there? ... as im sort of confused as to why you would think this question is actually simple ...

#crysx

Cant application work with temperature values it shows on the screen, like it shows fan %, core clock and such? It needs to take those values from somewhere first and store them in a variable before puting them on screen. And if it reads temp is above 75 or 80 it calls command to close the whole app.

If i am dumb or bother you just say haha. Also dont want to waste ur time. It's just curiosity now as i used to programm on my college and have some okish background. The whole reason why i thought it's simple is coz application allready works with temperatures in some way. I would say it takes that data from somewhere, store then in some string variable, or maybe integer or whatever if it's not stored as character and then put them on the screen.

AND ANYWAY! I like your miner very much. I like it clean and simple as it is. Very nice UI. Also pool is rly cool. Have a lot of details and works well. Keep it up!

no no no ...

you are not wasting our time - or 'dumb' - or bothering us ...

but it seems you misunderstood WHY we were explaining what we have been ... there is NO option in the current miner ( or any other miner ) to do what you ask - unless an external application takes these values and uses them to determine what to do with CWIgm running ...

tell you what tho - if this is something a few users CAN use - lets see what can be done ... this IS a beta afterall - so testing new things wont hurt ... depending on how mcuh work we need to put into the coding of it of course - as other things take priority for the time being ...

much appreciated for the positive and kind words also ...

#crysx
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