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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on March 14, 2023, 10:23:47 PM

But new users are asked to agree to the terms and conditions of the casinos before signing up right? They shouldn't be reminded anymore to read the rules and regulations when they're already members, because upon signing up they are already presented with the rules and regulations. All they have to do is read them. But are they reading them? Probably not. Many are guilty of this omission including myself. But at least I'm not spreading FUD due to ignorance.

New users are indeed asked to agree to the terms and conditions of the casino before registering but not many of them want to take the time to read the terms and conditions already written at the casino.
Most new users will immediately register, log into their accounts, and start depositing money to play gambling.
This makes many people have trouble when they want to withdraw their money because they think that the terms and conditions have just been made even though it is their fault for not reading the rules.
Even things like this also happen to people who have often played gambling in many casinos and it seems that we underestimate this rule and are not careful to read it.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

This is a habit that new players have, and it's not only in casinos or gambling I have no idea what people typically think when they skip reading the rules and regulations, which is why it usually doesn't work out well and you see them breaking the rules or losing money. Because they neglected to read the forum rules, most newcomers end up being banned from the community. It's either ignorance or negligence.

It's very important to know the rule of any game this is also applicable to casinos or gambling sites unfortunately a lot of newbies gamblers probably ignored the rules and regulations guiding the site unfortunately jumped into gambling, of course if there is any shortcomings in a event of a gambler wining big unfortunately couldn't receive their payout due to rules broken definitely the casinos or gambling sites will ultimately make reference to those rules which makes it difficult for any lawyer to defend their client, I hope newbies will learn to read all the how important rules and regulations guiding any gambling site.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

This is a habit that new players have, and it's not only in casinos or gambling I have no idea what people typically think when they skip reading the rules and regulations, which is why it usually doesn't work out well and you see them breaking the rules or losing money. Because they neglected to read the forum rules, most newcomers end up being banned from the community. It's either ignorance or negligence.

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But new users are asked to agree to the terms and conditions of the casinos before signing up right? They shouldn't be reminded anymore to read the rules and regulations when they're already members, because upon signing up they are already presented with the rules and regulations. All they have to do is read them. But are they reading them? Probably not. Many are guilty of this omission including myself. But at least I'm not spreading FUD due to ignorance.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

I've been gambling in an online website for some time already, and TBH, I didn't bother to visit their Terms and Conditions, or FAQ's whatever it is. Even I'm a newbie, I didn't visit or read this one, and I'm pretty sure that the newbies are doing the same.

This quote isn't applied only for the newbies, but also for the gamblers who are gambling on their website for a long time. I mean I'm pretty sure that there are some long time gamblers out there who didn't even have a time to read their rules and regulations. What gamblers are thinking more is the potential profits that they can make rather than the security or the TOS of the website, and when the worst thing happens with them, they will post a scam accusation here, or they will rant somewhere else, and will share their story.

At the end of the day, this quote still isn't helpful for newbies if they don't know how to control themselves whenever they're gambling.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on March 13, 2023, 01:45:30 AM

The FAQ are frequently asked questions, it is different from ToS or T&C (Terms of Service or Terms and Conditions). The FAQ is short but consists of the questions that users are often asked which may contain many things about the ToS too but not all.

On every site you are registering, be it gambling site or not gambling site, the ToS page would be displayed and you have to scroll down and you have the check ✔️ it that you have read it, but they are always too long which discourage many people to read it. But very important to read.

I know I'm not sure, but I hardly read the entire T&C, I usually pay more attention to the parts that talk about deposits, KYC requirements and limits.
I'd like to know how many players here actually fully read KYC, but I believe that's a topic for another thread with a poll.

The FAQ, on the other hand, is quite attractive for those who want to have a quick and superficial overview of the functioning and main rules of the site, this one I always read and in fact I think it is very valid because it is usually a quick read.

I believe that every site should have a simplified T&C, without too many technical terms and in a summarized way, covering the main and most important topics of the rules.
This document does not need to be legally valid and should not replace the T&C, but it would be very interesting to "facilitate" users' understanding and even make more players aware of the rules before starting to play.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

It can't be avoided for new gamblers as they don't want to spend more than several minutes during the registration process but they usually learn from their mistake or through the mistake of others so they should be fine.

Quote from: rhomelmabini on March 14, 2023, 09:38:52 AM

I always did but not going all through of it, you can just hit CTRL+F and then look for the keywords that needs to be filtered. It's a hassle, yes, but it wouldn't cost you 10 minutes if there's some filtration you do. If you can't read it on the time you join at least read it after you gamble your money and want to deposit once again.

That shortcut is always helpful when you're about to go through the terms and conditions page of the casino you're playing since they're always long and the sections you're looking for might be at the middle or bottom of the page.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on March 14, 2023, 05:29:40 PM

Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Have you ever played an online game or registed into a website that asks you to check the box if you have read the T&C of their game/platform? Majority of us just fill or check it despite not reading all of it due to its long and somehow pointless use. But the true effect is that once you have committed a breach on their T&C, it is prima facie for them that you have read and understood their regulations that would warrant your prohibition.

At the end of the day, avoid doing actions that would warrant a breach on the T&C of a gambling website. Even if you did not read everything, just avoid the things that could generally block or ban you from their platform.

This is one of the difficult side many of us that are gamblers do not want to put our attention and it's is when things goes wrong that we will want to know why the casino we have been using took such a firm decision against our winning. It is very important for us to keep writing terms of condition when we want to register on a site that we will use for something serious. I have made this kind of mistake before and I know how it tell on me because I was not ready to do the right before reading the terms and condition of a particular site I was using to trade before now.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

You're not talking only about newbies because even if someone who's been gambling for years with crypto casinos, you'll find out that many of us don't read a lot and just hit the register button so fast.

Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

It's their problem that they don't look back at the rules that they need to remember for them to stop spreading FUD. But it's like a revenge act for those frustrated gamblers and that's the retaliation that they do. And that's what we can blame for them by being hasty to not consider themselves that they're at fault.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

This is too general you should have mentioned the specific mistake resulted from not reading the rules and regulation of a gambling platform. To give you some, betting multipliers is usually being a mistake by new players wherein they tend to just click and qill be surprised that their bet is that huge already. If it wins ofcourse they'd be happy otherwise, that'll be a huge loss.

Quote from: virasisog on March 14, 2023, 11:35:10 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 14, 2023, 10:36:25 AM

This can be very costly I completely agree. Some casinos have very strict rules about what they allow like unintentional use (forgetting about) of VPN can get you instant and permanent ban with all your assets frozen. Its definitely not cool to experience but there are rules imposed by casino and country which casino is based in. So everyone is obliged to follow rules so you cannot claim that "I didn't know". KYC is something imposed by casinos because it actually protects not other way. Details must be read.

There are really times that we're lazy too read long TOS but we should require ourselves to read everything before registering because it might affect our journey in the long run.
They say that the only excuse to the law is being an idiot so we should never say that we never knew that we are already violating their terms of service. We are risking our funds here so right from the beginning, we should be responsible for our actions. This is actually the common mistake of gamblers who fail so we must learn from others' mistakes.

In most of the applications and platforms we are all guilty of not reading the ToS simply because it is too long. Fortunately, I haven't had any problems regarding this concern. But indeed, since we are talking about money, that should be an enough reason for us to take extra caution with our actions. An alternative with reading rules and regulation is simply asking other players to be aware of something you know nothing about. It won't cost you a dime from doing so.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Have you ever played an online game or registed into a website that asks you to check the box if you have read the T&C of their game/platform? Majority of us just fill or check it despite not reading all of it due to its long and somehow pointless use. But the true effect is that once you have committed a breach on their T&C, it is prima facie for them that you have read and understood their regulations that would warrant your prohibition.

At the end of the day, avoid doing actions that would warrant a breach on the T&C of a gambling website. Even if you did not read everything, just avoid the things that could generally block or ban you from their platform.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

I don't know of any gambling site that don't live you an accord box to there T&C to click before processing a registration. It's protocol for all registered gambling sites as a means to ensure the rules guiding the sphere is followed squarely and for there protection as well.
Apparently, it's mostly ignored by users due to an adrenaline rush to register and start gambling with immediate effect and they have no idea on what they've agreed to.
It's always annoying and funny to have them come up with theseaccusations at times on confiscated funds and frozen accounts. It's always up to users most times and if you play by the rules, the rules would surely guide you. When you don't play by the rules, it would be used in prosecuting you.

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Quote from: virasisog on March 14, 2023, 11:35:10 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 14, 2023, 10:36:25 AM

This can be very costly I completely agree. Some casinos have very strict rules about what they allow like unintentional use (forgetting about) of VPN can get you instant and permanent ban with all your assets frozen. Its definitely not cool to experience but there are rules imposed by casino and country which casino is based in. So everyone is obliged to follow rules so you cannot claim that "I didn't know". KYC is something imposed by casinos because it actually protects not other way. Details must be read.

There are really times that we're lazy too read long TOS but we should require ourselves to read everything before registering because it might affect our journey in the long run.
They say that the only excuse to the law is being an idiot so we should never say that we never knew that we are already violating their terms of service. We are risking our funds here so right from the beginning, we should be responsible for our actions. This is actually the common mistake of gamblers who fail so we must learn from others' mistakes.

Main behavior on which applicable for most people or specially on gamblers on which we are really that lazy on reading up terms and conditions on which this is an important thing before on dealing up with something

specially when you are really that tending to make some deposit into some site or does simply involves money.It is really that important that you should really be that considerate on reading up things so that you wont really be that missing the most important thing which could potentially put you up into some problem when you do able to violate it just because you hadnt just read it up.

People would be only making out realizations on the time that they would be experiencing problems.

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Quote from: dezoel on March 14, 2023, 01:46:10 PM

Quote from: seoincorporation on March 13, 2023, 12:46:54 PM

Not only the FAQ, but users must also read the TOS to understand how the casino operates. Some questions that should be answered before making the first deposit are:

1.- Does the site allow my County?
2.- Does the site have a good reputation on the forum and trust pilot?
3.- What's the withdrawal limit?
4.- Does the casino has a valid gambling license?

It's important to have clear rules and understand how the casino operates before making a deposit because as OP says, we have seen a lot of times users losing their money just for not having clear rules.

~ In your first question, there is no way we can make a deposit if our country is unsupported because by the time we access the site we will see something like "sorry..,, blah, blah". ~

In many countries censorship reaches a very high level due to the fact that the authorities do not allow dissent and try to keep power in their hands as tightly as possible, so the citizens of such countries are forced to use VPN on a regular basis. And using a VPN you can easily register on many gambling sites (even which prohibit gambling for citizens of your country), but most likely you will break another rule - the ban on the use of anonymizers on the Internet. So you should always read the TOS and follow it.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on March 13, 2023, 12:46:54 PM

Not only the FAQ, but users must also read the TOS to understand how the casino operates. Some questions that should be answered before making the first deposit are:

1.- Does the site allow my County?
2.- Does the site have a good reputation on the forum and trust pilot?
3.- What's the withdrawal limit?
4.- Does the casino has a valid gambling license?

It's important to have clear rules and understand how the casino operates before making a deposit because as OP says, we have seen a lot of times users losing their money just for not having clear rules.

FAQ is much easier to read but there might be some things who can only be found on the TOS so indeed that they must also read it. In your first question, there is no way we can make a deposit if our country is unsupported because by the time we access the site we will see something like "sorry..,, blah, blah". The second one is already understood by everyone.

On number 3; I believe that many of us disregard this and we mainly focus on the minimum deposit but no doubt the minimum deposit is also important and must come first because there is still no assurance that we can win and withdraw. The last one may not really be important but many us can prefer casinos with no license because they don't usually have a KYC and many of them are still legit.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Indeed, most of us are guilty of this mistake. And this doesn't apply to just an online casino; we can visit and use the services offered by other websites too. It is only when the adrenaline rush has subsided, either when we lose big or encounter a KYC issue or any other issue while using the website, that we retrace our steps and take the time to explore the website. Which include reading the FAQ, contacting or emailing their customer service agent about our queries, and reading the blog section of the casino website. This is a costly mistake that gamblers always learn from personal experience.

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Quote from: letteredhub on March 14, 2023, 09:32:25 AM

First thing I check when registering on any gambling site it's their terms of gambling, how comfortable they may be for me as a gambler and if am not okay with it I keep off. This is money issue we're dealing with here so no time is a waste one using it to read through instructions and T&C's so to keep yourself from being taken unaware anytime

We must do that before registering on a casino site because we want to avoid things we don't want. By checking the rules and regulations of the casino, we know what we have to do and try to avoid making mistakes. And we really have to understand the rules to be comfortable playing and enjoying all gambling games.

After all, it does not matter if we try to understand the rules as it's in our best interest because if we make the casino our favorite one, we want to protect our account from any problems that could arise. We can ask customer service if there is something we don't know.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on March 14, 2023, 10:36:25 AM

This can be very costly I completely agree. Some casinos have very strict rules about what they allow like unintentional use (forgetting about) of VPN can get you instant and permanent ban with all your assets frozen. Its definitely not cool to experience but there are rules imposed by casino and country which casino is based in. So everyone is obliged to follow rules so you cannot claim that "I didn't know". KYC is something imposed by casinos because it actually protects not other way. Details must be read.

There are really times that we're lazy too read long TOS but we should require ourselves to read everything before registering because it might affect our journey in the long run.
They say that the only excuse to the law is being an idiot so we should never say that we never knew that we are already violating their terms of service. We are risking our funds here so right from the beginning, we should be responsible for our actions. This is actually the common mistake of gamblers who fail so we must learn from others' mistakes.

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Quote from: Outhue on March 13, 2023, 01:39:37 AM

The most popular mistake that newbies make with online casinos is avoiding the rules and regulations, not all online casinos will put up a warning sign on their first page and say 👇

"New users are welcome, please read our rules and regulation before making your first deposits"

You have to look for the website FAQ and go through it first, I have seen some newbies that avoid doing this has they ended up shooting themselves in the foot.

Some even start spreading FUD on the forum about these gambling platforms that did them wrong, not knowing that they are the ones at fault, they are guilty because they don't read the rules and regulations.

Mouthwatering and attractive bonuses most times blind the mind of some gamblers and they fail to read the terms of service. They fail to understand that not reading the terms and conditions might lead to costly mistakes that will lead to regret. Reading the frequently asked questions will expose newbies to dos and don'ts of the casino company. Some of them has withdrawal and deposit policies that are different from others. Government policies might differ because of type of government. Another important aspect that should be considered is the KYC policy of the casino. Some of them promotes privacy while others require personal information.

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This can be very costly I completely agree. Some casinos have very strict rules about what they allow like unintentional use (forgetting about) of VPN can get you instant and permanent ban with all your assets frozen. Its definitely not cool to experience but there are rules imposed by casino and country which casino is based in. So everyone is obliged to follow rules so you cannot claim that "I didn't know". KYC is something imposed by casinos because it actually protects not other way. Details must be read.

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