Topic: A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust (Read 472 times)
I don't know if this is a true to life story but I will chase Kevin right away and will file a case against him. He is not my friend anymore because he betrayed me in the first place and that's a huge money for sure. Kevin should pay it plus damages, as long as I have the proof he should face consequences.
Before reading the post i thought one of them stole money for gambling. And when read all story it's totally different story 
And its really annoying situation for Charles and if I were him i wouldn't play on his account. No matter what, the rate is obvious why should i played on his account? Is there any gambling web site changing the rate when you play with more money? Nope 
But let's follow the story, if i were him; I would visit him for facing. Then absolutely i would record the all conversation and sue him.
And its really annoying situation for Charles and if I were him i wouldn't play on his account. No matter what, the rate is obvious why should i played on his account? Is there any gambling web site changing the rate when you play with more money? Nope But let's follow the story, if i were him; I would visit him for facing. Then absolutely i would record the all conversation and sue him. 
So complicated, Charles should look for justice and find a solution to take his piece of cake. They predicted together and bet the similar amounts, Kelvin doesn't deserve living luxurious lifestyle without Charles. Thinking twice before making such decision is necessary since we can't choose friends who gonna lie or cheat us.
I do not know if Charles can go to court and sue Kevin for stealing the profit from their bet. It is hard to prove that Kevin stole the money since Kevin has the slip. All Charles can do is appeal to the good conscience of Kevin to give Charles what is due to Charles. Other than that, there is no legal way that he can get his money back.
Is this real or just a story?
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
Agreed, there is a reason why it is never recommended to mix business and friendship, you may trust your friend but that does not mean that your friend is actually worth of your trust, so we must never mix the two, even loaning money to a friend is a risky proposition and whenever I have done it I have expressed to them that I do not expect to get my money back, but that I will not ever lend them any money again if I have not being repaid the previous loan. Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
We must be able to block this so that everything goes according to plan. Even if it is your own family, sometimes in this business you usually can't trust 100 percent because when you are given the freedom, everyone will become greedy.
Is this real or just a story?
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
Agreed, there is a reason why it is never recommended to mix business and friendship, you may trust your friend but that does not mean that your friend is actually worth of your trust, so we must never mix the two, even loaning money to a friend is a risky proposition and whenever I have done it I have expressed to them that I do not expect to get my money back, but that I will not ever lend them any money again if I have not being repaid the previous loan. Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won.
Confront him and ask for my share.
Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ?
It is good if he will give me my share of the money but if he doesn't give me my part then I will see him in court if I have enough evidence, if not then I might just let him go.
or how will you treat this issue.
I will treat the case delicately.
Is this real or just a story?
From the way the story was told, it should be a fiction. The story stated by @OP maybe fiction but things like that happens in real life. Often times the people who will swindle us are those who we trusted the most, close friends and relatives.
First of all, I wouldn't take a joint bet with anyone. Let's say I played and I fell into this situation. I would find Kelvin. First I would ask him why he did this. If he said he wouldn't give me the amount I won, I would sue him. That would be a great lesson. I shouldn't trust anyone that much. And I will say this. How does Kelvin fall asleep after betting so big? The story is fiction, but it can still happen to us. That's why we have to be careful.
Is this real or just a story?
From the way the story was told, it should be a fiction. But it is a good story for learning. There is nothing wrong in trusting a friend but you should know the type of friend he is first. Even when people want to pretend, they can not do it all through. There will always be that sign of betrayal from the beginning but you can choose to ignore it. Charles was a little bit careless with his trust for Kelvin. I said careless because no one bets that huge and then sleeps before the match. The anxiety from the betting alone will keep you awake and restless until you see the result.
As fictional as the story may sound, we have characters like Kevin and Charles in real life. At the core of every human being is deep seated greed. Only few people have been able to subdue it while for others it shows up whenever the need arises. The takeaway from this story is that no matter how close you are with another person, even if had studied the game together, please each should place their bets separately.
Anyways, is this a true story? Where did you got it?
But how can you sue him in this case? You have no papers or other hard evidence showing you gave him money for the bet? I don't know the law on this aspect but a lawyer maybe can find a way how to get your share. Since he already ran away, it means, he has no intention of sharing the winnings to you. Better consult a lawyer how to proceed a case because they may have ideas on how to get your share from him.
OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!
Based from the story the OP provided, it looks like he is Kelvin and just wanted to vent out here on the forum for what he did to his friend. He mentioned "me" referring that he is Kelvin on the story. I think is having a hard time fighting his conscience to what he did.Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me,
A friend should never be treated that way, no matter how much money is at stake. You lose a little bit of your faith on humanity when friends turn their backs on you. Money shouldn’t be the most important thing in your life; it should be secondary to love and friendship. But really, after something like this, you can only move on and try to avoid making the same mistakes. You can't let people get under your skin and hurt you.
Anyways, Charles can try to find justice by putting this on court as long as he can provide proof about the shared funds they use to gamble.
Anyways, is this a true story? Where did you got it?
I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.
I guess that is "Buda way", things happen for a reason, and we need to accept them and move on. I would probably choose that way, I would accept "my" mistake, and I would let it go... but it's me. I know people who would act in totally opposite ways, even with less money at stake.
OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!
A friend should never be treated that way, no matter how much money is at stake. You lose a little bit of your faith on humanity when friends turn their backs on you. Money shouldn’t be the most important thing in your life; it should be secondary to love and friendship. But really, after something like this, you can only move on and try to avoid making the same mistakes. You can't let people get under your skin and hurt you.
I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.
I guess that is "Buda way", things happen for a reason, and we need to accept them and move on. I would probably choose that way, I would accept "my" mistake, and I would let it go... but it's me. I know people who would act in totally opposite ways, even with less money at stake.
OP is probably making peace with this situation by posting this stuff online, it's probably a relief when you share your burden with others. People of action wouldn't waste time on that... that's for sure!
I've seen a quote from somewhere that goes like this. "If you never heard from your debtors again, then it is worth it." I know it is poignant to lose that amount of money and over a friendship that was probably built from years of spending time together to boot. But in retrospect, one can only accept the truth and move on. Or if you're really bitter about the whole ordeal you can always sue him, you found a way to at least see that he's living a pretty affluent life, you could find out where he is and send him a subpoena. Blue pill or Red pill bro, you choose.
Of course I will go to him to look him in the eyes and tell him his wrong and maybe he could remit some. But if you have already started to make it then you can let go and allow nature to punish him because there will be punishment for betrayal.
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness,
Nothing wrong with trusting someone. This is even an avenue to trust when both friends put head together to forecast a game but it is now a lesson
bet separately.
This is the point and this is where the problem started. They have no need to bet together. If they had the bet differently, they would have still had substantial amount differently to themselves.
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness,
Nothing wrong with trusting someone. This is even an avenue to trust when both friends put head together to forecast a game but it is now a lesson
bet separately.
This is the point and this is where the problem started. They have no need to bet together. If they had the bet differently, they would have still had substantial amount differently to themselves.
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
Most likely go after him since $120k is too big of an amount to let go for most people just because you're friends. Then again, it's so dumb to rely on someone when you could've placed the same bet on your own.all he can do is confront Kelvin. if he files a lawsuit against Kelvin, Charles would need to prove that they have an agreement that they would split the money if the bet won if they can't I am afraid that it won't go well for Charles.
I agree it wasn't specified, if the bet was placed at a betting shop then it's unlikely for Charles to gather some evidence to back his case but if it's done online then Charles could use their online transactions as the evidence. 
Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
just curious, where is this story located? I am assuming since you mentioned "states" it is in the USA. if it is, $120k dollar is not enough to live a luxurious lifestyle. unless Kelvin and Charles are already pretty well off before Kelvin decided to screw Charles.All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
all he can do is confront Kelvin. if he files a lawsuit against Kelvin, Charles would need to prove that they have an agreement that they would split the money if the bet won if they can't I am afraid that it won't go well for Charles. 
Is this real or just a story?
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
Kelvin is now rich. If Charles is not rich, Kelvin may win anything brought up by Charles, except if Charles is rich and able to file a law suit with Kelvin. But even where is the evidence that they added money together to bet.
Absolutely delusional story from beginning to end - the author did not even come up with a reason why they made a "joint" bet, and did not bet like normal people separately. The situation with money is also unclear - judging by the fact that they bet on one game, they were already high rollers and they had some money. And another thing that hit me was the "big house in another state." Apparently it's not about the USA, otherwise what kind of state is it where for 120k dollars you can afford a big house (presumably not in the forest)?
Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
Some people can never be predicted untill you yest them with money, friend of twenty can turn enemy within some seconds just with betrayal for money, now i think Charles has learnt his bedt lesson of life just in a hard and disheartening way, he will never forget this as it will still remain a mystery to him to believe what kelvin has done.
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
Nothing can be done about this than for Charles to take his fate and leave kelvin alone to spend the whole money, one thing is sure, money will finishee one day but good friends remains, but later in future, it could have been too kate for kelvin to realize his mistakes after things would have gone wronged, no legal action can charlse take against such since the slip was with kelvin, but destiny will always fight against kelvin for charlse sake.
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