A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust - page 3.

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 29, 2022, 01:10:42 AM

Maybe they can sort it out if Kevin give Charles share for old-time sake and if not then maybe they can settle on the court.

This would be the best option, but what evidence is Charles having against Kelvin? Because of that, it is better for Charles to just still report to police about it, the police may still want to help until it is not resolved that it should become a court case.

Quote from: bittraffic on October 29, 2022, 01:10:42 AM

Not trusting a friend can actually be hurtful as well. I can understand it so Charles is not a very sassy guy. But this is not a good trait to adopt in this wild world.

This would be a lesson if this happens, some events occurs for others to learn from. It is not that some people do not trust a friend, just that they have certain percentage of trust for a friend and that is better. If it comes to money matter, it is not good to trust a friend. A friend you think is the best can suddenly change and become what you do not expect, not fully trust a friend does not hurt at all.

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There is always a place to set things in good way , they are still a friend so I think they will settle this maybe not today or tomorrow? but surely in the days to come because surely in the future when their path crosses again , understanding will take place.

or maybe if the traitor become more successful ? then he may return back the funds will full interest on it.

But the main thing in this is never to trust anyone with your money and most specially in in this kind of vises .

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

To build trust on someone takes time and sacrifice, you have someone that you trust so much because they know this,they end up disappointing you in a way that might be unforgivable because of money.

There are two friends Kelvin and Charles,they have similar likes and have being gambling and predicting results of matches together. One day Kelvin and Charles studied a game together for some days and finally, it was the game day,so these two friends instead of playing separately decided to put their money together to bet big so that the win will also be bigger.

LoL what? Gambling don't work that way unless the provider changes the odds when you wager more.

They should have wagered separately.

I didn't even have to read the rest of the story because I can already guess what happened.

When it is about money, trust only yourself and no one else. That's a solid life lesson for whoever lost money in this story.

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Maybe they can sort it out if Kevin give Charles share for old-time sake and if not then maybe they can settle on the court.

I wouldn't really try the latter, 3 months if long enough for my anger to stay. But I would definitely want the money as I won as well. Not trusting a friend can actually be hurtful as well. I can understand it so Charles is not a very sassy guy. But this is not a good trait to adopt in this wild world.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

To build trust on someone takes time and sacrifice, you have someone that you trust so much because they know this,they end up disappointing you in a way that might be unforgivable because of money.

Money will always broke everyones dream to earn respect and trust , if you don't want your friendship to be ruined then never let money interfere to your relationship.

specially in gambling that completely a place for greedy and self centered people.

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If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

I will never let Him go, I would rather spend another thousand of dollars because the win is truly plenty though this will be hard to prove as gambling isn't that recorded at all.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

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It is not clear to me if that is supposedly a story that you knew first hand, because you do not put sources and you could have invented it, but I have heard similar stories from quite some time ago.

Nowadays there is not that much of a problem, what you have to do when you share a lottery ticket is for the one who has the ticket stub to send a photo via instant messenger to all those who share the ticket, as it is considered evidence in court.

That way, Charles could go to the police or the court and report Kelvin.

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Well, this is a fairly frequent and sad story of friendship and betrayal, and if Kelvin did this, then he was sure that Charles would not pursue him, he cheated him with money, but he also stole Charles' time and faith. I would not meet with such a person in an attempt to explain something to him, if it was an attack of cowardice, then he will understand everything himself and try to fix everything.

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The hardest thing is to get betrayed by your friend especially if it involves a huge amount of money, you can ask him to share the winning if he declines then you can go to court and ask the court to give him your shares of the winnings but everything depends on the evidence you have if you cannot show something in the court then you cannot file a case, this is a lesson that when it comes to gambling you should be on your own, you should just bet the same entry but with your own money not sharing the ticket.

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Then their friendship are ruined definitely, and that is the sad part of it. For me this is just money, so it's not worth a try to betray your friend's trust. Anyway, if the other party did this, then probably it's because of greed and the power to have all that money.

Maybe he hasn't seen that kind of money before and he was tempted to do that, run away with it and getting all the money, forgetting all about their friendship. In the end, this is another of those statistics wherein the love of money and greed destroyed everything.

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Is this a real life incident, name place, amount win, etc.? But anyway, yes, this really happened.
For those greedy, greed always money means everything no matter what will be steppin in, friendship, family etc.

For the question, i dont know what charles can do about it legally, or if there is existing law on his country of origin regarding the case then sue him. If there's none, this always resort to some worst scenario, revenge, lastly killings, who knows what kind of person charles is.

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If this is real story, then I'll try to make the friend understand and get my part. At some point he'll truly understand and if he isn't ready to give the winning amount, then it is upto him. It'll be a learning for me, money can make any kind of changes in ones life. Once again as the past days I'll spend what I've been spending on gambling. If I'm lucky I'll be able to make such bets.

Just think of the situation in which both the friends have shared the winning. In such case the winning will keep the friends boosted to go for further bets with the winning amount which could bring more big wins.

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Money is not everything but everything requires money, it is very difficult to find friends who can be trusted because there are so many friends now who stab us in the back, especially regarding money problems and women's problems, it's better from now on you have to avoid friends like that because if you continue to be friends with him for sure he will repeat the same mistakes even worse than before, he will take your money he will also have sex with your wife, you should leave a friend like him before it's too late.

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@OP, is this a story that really happened and existed or just another fantasy that would be good to read to learn some lessons? But if this is for real and I'm on the situation of Charles, I'll just let it go and let him be happy with his life and I won't bother him anymore.
Because I believe in karma and riches that comes from like that will be gone and out too quickly and the good karma shall happen to me in some other days of my life or if there's none, I'm good with my conscience not to disturb him.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Charles was so reckless and Kelvin so greedy, crime because there is an opportunity. With this story I'll go to catch Kelvin if I become Charles there's only me and him, the law doesn't need to know, due to his behavior so he not a friend anymore. Kelvin is so petty he's not a real friend, and a real friend won't steal money, there is only fun in friendship

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You should know that there are two categories of gamblers, the gamblers who are desperate and greedy and have let the pursuit of money cloud their conscience, while those who are not too desperate and just gamble mostly for fun but don't mind winning. It is obvious that the friend who betrayed the other one falls into the category of the desperate gamblers. If you are able to observe that anyone around you, friend or even family is desperate and greedy for money you cannot trust them with agreements regarding money.

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Quote from: Slow death on October 28, 2022, 05:22:28 PM

- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?

Maybe this is not common or not in some other countries, betting agents. With betting agents, you do not have to register online and bet, you can go to the betting agent, bet and you will be given slip which you must not lose. If the bet is won, go with the slip to the betting agent you used to bet and you will be given your money. That could be what that happened.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

Well i heard another story in gambling with two friends last days in youtube about two friends that were gambling in slots, an old story where online casinos doesn’t exist the slots machines were new so they are full of glitches and these two friends found out that glitch in a poker slot machine where they can generate a lot of money daily then they had a fight were one of them decided to stop so they don’t get caught the other didn’t agree, but because of that fight both were doing their maximum to get more money and became a competition until one of them got caught but they didn’t discover the glitch, he got banned from all casinos so he called his friend to stop and warn him but the other didn’t believe him and thought it’s just a story he created to scare him. So he continued aggressively until he got caught also and they discovered the glitch both went to jail for doing that.
So in my opinion i will let kelvin and accepte that loss and betrayal for my mistake of trusting someone that obviously he will finally get attempted by that much money. Going after him to justice will cost me only money and time while i can move on and accept my stupidity

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One of the best rule I have learned while using bitcoin and following this "world" is
Don't Trust Verify.

if there is not any real proof of the payment between these two friends it's really hard to prove this bet was played/decided by them.
Otherwise, it could be possible also there is a threat/blackmail.
"You own my money/we decide to bet together you need to pay me".

I think that Kelvin was a piece of s*** meanwhile it's really hard for Calvin "demonstrate" (in any case) they have made this bet together.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on October 28, 2022, 05:36:31 PM

If I do anything like that, that means I am very foolish. Not his father, not his mother. My father and mother (especially my mother precisely) are the two people I can trust up to the extent I know they can not completely betray me because what is theirs can be said to be mine as well. But I can not even be stupid to add up my money with my parent money for us to gamble together, we can do it differently. Even as for my brothers, I can never trust them to that extent at all, we would have to bet differently, not to talk of a friend. Even as I trade more, I trade alone, nothing of money can involve my friend and I except if I should borrow them money, I can not even borrow them the amount of money I can not afford to give them as a friend because they can still fail to give you back. Let us take life as it is.

I know it's difficult to trust someone when it comes to money aspect even if the person is your family member, but seriously am having some friends not really more than 3 that I do trust with everything about me not money alone, they have access to my ATM card and they know my pin and I also have access to their ATM, we have been together for year's and we have done some businesses together, which they distributed the profit equally, we have helped each other during cretical moments, someone that we have been together for many years and the person haven't cheated me before, why won't I trust him? So should I say when a very huge amount connects us together, they will also disappoint me which I don't think so. Am having 3 of my friends that I trust with my money and 1 of my brother.

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Quote from: Frankolala on October 28, 2022, 03:27:08 PM

If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.

There will be consequences on that and surely go after him to deserve justice, maybe filing a report will do differently or just keep talking to him to get the money you're suppose to be having. It may sounds a little bit out of hand considering how egoistic Kelvin is but you just have to try if it will do.

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