Topic: A gambler who betrayed his friend's trust - page 4. (Read 505 times)
There's betrayal between friends when their money involved especially if it's a huge amount of money, real friends never borrow share, or co-partnership with each other and when it comes to gambling you don't pool your money to be unless there is an escrow, because there's a possibility of winning a huge amount of money, you can demand a share if you have evidence that you pool your money but if there is none you can't do something about it, the lesson here is if you're pooling your money in gambling be sure you have evidence in case of betrayal.
What was the advantage to not just placing two separate bets, not sure I get taking a risk unneeded. Quite a few people are awful with money and its not being a good friend to put that failure possible in their path, still their fault but best not to tempt alot of people into something negative.
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so that the win will also be bigger.
sorry doesnt make sense and easily avoided, the rest you cant do that much about just human flaws which are not rare thats life. ~snip~
Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
^ I can't spend and kept my when it bothers my conscience, I cannot sleep well in that way. Kelvin secretly withdrew the money and ran away to another state where he feels Charles wouldn't find me, Charles woke up and checked the game,then called his friend but he was nowhere to be seen. Three months later a friend of Charles saw Kelvin living in a big house with a luxurious lifestyle and told Charles.
All these happened because Charles trusted Kelvin
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
Well If I were Charles and my friend betrayed me, that is how I measure our friendship and it's proven that money matters between you so he is not a true friend of yours. Money is easy to spend and easy to lose but you cannot buy trust with someone else, it takes so long before you will gain it and it will never buy. So let him spend all of our money won and let him not sleep well. Someday he will realize that friendship is more important than money.
If you were Charles what will you do after knowing where Kelvin ran away to with the money you both won. Will you just let go,or you will go after him to get justice ? or how will you treat this issue.
This is no longer about gambling but more about morals. Only those greedy enough who doesn't have the morals can do such thing. Most gamblers I knew would still share the winnings, or in order to avoid this from happening wouldn't pool their money at all. Also nowadays, people are very easy to find if you have leads and prior connection. He might not have any legal reason to pursue his 'friend' but I think this can be made to a case of estafa or anything and get his money back. Then again, no legal basis/writing = basically it didn't happen.
I don't think that's foolishness, someone you grow up together with and you have trusted the person with money before and haven't disappointed you before, then you won't know he will definitely do something like this. I blame Kelvin just trying to be smart, someone that can trust you then you shouldn't ruin your friendship because of selfishness, if both of them shared the money am sure they will have both been living fine and comfortable, how will I have money and I will be comfortable seeing my friend suffering, that's really bad if am Charles I will just tell Kelvin my mind and then overlook it, definitely my own money will also come. With this post I think we shouldn't trust anybody whenever it comes to money related issues not even a friend.
If I do anything like that, that means I am very foolish. Not his father, not his mother. My father and mother (especially my mother precisely) are the two people I can trust up to the extent I know they can not completely betray me because what is theirs can be said to be mine as well. But I can not even be stupid to add up my money with my parent money for us to gamble together, we can do it differently. Even as for my brothers, I can never trust them to that extent at all, we would have to bet differently, not to talk of a friend. Even as I trade more, I trade alone, nothing of money can involve my friend and I except if I should borrow them money, I can not even borrow them the amount of money I can not afford to give them as a friend because they can still fail to give you back. Let us take life as it is. 
well i wonder:
- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?
- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.
on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court
Then what things could he present out on regarding those claims? If the account been used is on Kevins?- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?
- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.
on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court
What if Kevin denies that he's using his own money on making bets and not involving charles? How he would be able to prove out? There's no chance if everything is
done on verbal agreement and this is why its really hard to have so much trust even if he's your bestfriend or whatsoever.
Just like the rest been saying that when it comes to money then its really hard to trust specially when it do involves huge money that could
change up someones life.
First I will blame Charles for trusting too., when it comes to money not many people can be trusted or that can practice loyalty to friends so why should I trust anyone when the world is full of many fake friends who can betray you for a penny?
But then why did Charles chossw to do combine betting with his friend in the first place when we know that, when it comes to money. Not everyone can control themselves to maintain integrity.
But then why did Charles chossw to do combine betting with his friend in the first place when we know that, when it comes to money. Not everyone can control themselves to maintain integrity.
It is right that Charles was a bit too candid, but the only one who acted ethically wrong was his friend, so I would only put the blame on Kelvin for that reason.
About the actions Charles can take... well, if tue money was clean, most probably in the court; if not clean things could get even worse.
Is this real or just a story?
Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
I don't think that's foolishness, someone you grow up together with and you have trusted the person with money before and haven't disappointed you before, then you won't know he will definitely do something like this. I blame Kelvin just trying to be smart, someone that can trust you then you shouldn't ruin your friendship because of selfishness, if both of them shared the money am sure they will have both been living fine and comfortable, how will I have money and I will be comfortable seeing my friend suffering, that's really bad if am Charles I will just tell Kelvin my mind and then overlook it, definitely my own money will also come. With this post I think we shouldn't trust anybody whenever it comes to money related issues not even a friend. Charles was foolish. How would he trust friend up to that extent? That is foolishness. We should not handle life with foolishness, bet separately.
well i wonder:
- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?
- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.
on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court
- whose account was it used for depositing and betting?
- since the two of them were friends so that means that Charles knew Kelvin's house and family, because it doesn't make sense for them to be such close friends and he doesn't know anything about Kelvin.
on the question of whether Charles should go after Kelvin to charge him I think Charles shouldn't do that, there is the police and the court just to solve cases like these, if Kelvin wants justice then he should go to the police and not court
You can't know your friend's attitude when he or she has nothing. Money reveals a lot in friendship(the true colour of who you call your friend).
If I happen to be Charles, that ends the friendship between me and Kelvin. I won't ask him about the money. Since he has the mind to play smart over me because of money. That's my foolishness to trust him easily.
At times, it's good for us to have small deals with our friends concerning money. At least to know who we are dealing with.
In this life, not all those you call your friends are your real friends when it comes to money.
If I happen to be Charles, that ends the friendship between me and Kelvin. I won't ask him about the money. Since he has the mind to play smart over me because of money. That's my foolishness to trust him easily.
At times, it's good for us to have small deals with our friends concerning money. At least to know who we are dealing with.
In this life, not all those you call your friends are your real friends when it comes to money.
In the story, you shared, how it's possible for Kelvin to easily withdraw $120,000? Is the account named after him and are all provided details owned by him as well? Or the money was claimed personally at the office?
How come Kelvin was easily able to move out to other states? If that's the case Charles surely contact his family about his whereabouts and it will trigger the authorities to help the family find Kelvin on the same day. Kelvin is also able to live in a big house which in real life, he can't just do within just 3 months because his name is under investigation.
Lastly, I can't imagine that there's the same Kelvin in real life will easily turn out like that.
How come Kelvin was easily able to move out to other states? If that's the case Charles surely contact his family about his whereabouts and it will trigger the authorities to help the family find Kelvin on the same day. Kelvin is also able to live in a big house which in real life, he can't just do within just 3 months because his name is under investigation.
Lastly, I can't imagine that there's the same Kelvin in real life will easily turn out like that.
If I was Charles I would talk to Kevin and give him a chance to do the right thing and give me what he owns to me. We were friends before and that should mean something to him. There is no feeling worse than the feeling of getting betrayed by a friend. I may not trust another soul again if this happened to me.
What if Kelvin has squandered the money with little or nothing left?. That feeling of betrayal will cost so much trust issues for me after such experience. For me i will involve a lawyer straight up so that i can retrieve what ever is left before he goes bankrupt. I won't blame Charles for trusting a friend to such extent but left to me i will use the law less things gets worst.Quote
I do not know if Charles can go to court and sue Kevin for stealing the profit from their bet. It is hard to prove that Kevin stole the money since Kevin has the slip. All Charles can do is appeal to the good conscience of Kevin to give Charles what is due to Charles. Other than that, there is no legal way that he can get his money back.
As long as money is involved a thousand and one volunteer lawyers and human right activists will take up the case because they know too well their cut will be included when the eventually wins the case. If Kelvin can do away with such amount of money without informing his friend then using an appeal will be a total waste of time 
Nice story OP. If I were Charles, I will chase that guy and start with his family asking where did Kelvin go and tell them the whole story. If I found out where does kelvin go I would probably chase him and ask him to at least give the capital that I spent to the match then it will be settled, It is the minimum thing I can do since I'm sure I can't force him and Kelvin intend to run in the first place because of his greediness, I'm sure the capital is not much compared to the winnings he was blinded for. We will make the karma make it's revenge. After all of that I'm sure that if I were in that situation, I will never going to trust easily after that kind of situation.
Tracing out is never been simple specially if you do have that limited source of funds where even there's someone who do talk that he's on other state then finding would really be hard.You cant really expect that someone on his family would be telling his location specially if they do know the situation or that guy already told them not to tell on where he is or totally dont know just because that dude ran away from his home and make a living out of that huge win.
If you could really sustain yourself on finding him then majority of us would really be telling the same.You do have the rights on asking some part since you've both have an agreement
on betting on the same team/player with both funds combined which it is really just right that you would fight for your right or get on what you deserve.
If I was Charles I would talk to Kevin and give him a chance to do the right thing and give me what he owns to me. We were friends before and that should mean something to him. There is no feeling worse than the feeling of getting betrayed by a friend. I may not trust another soul again if this happened to me.
I do not know if Charles can go to court and sue Kevin for stealing the profit from their bet. It is hard to prove that Kevin stole the money since Kevin has the slip. All Charles can do is appeal to the good conscience of Kevin to give Charles what is due to Charles. Other than that, there is no legal way that he can get his money back.
So complicated, Charles should look for justice and find a solution to take his piece of cake. They predicted together and bet the similar amounts, Kelvin doesn't deserve living luxurious lifestyle without Charles. Thinking twice before making such decision is necessary since we can't choose friends who gonna lie or cheat us.
I do not know if Charles can go to court and sue Kevin for stealing the profit from their bet. It is hard to prove that Kevin stole the money since Kevin has the slip. All Charles can do is appeal to the good conscience of Kevin to give Charles what is due to Charles. Other than that, there is no legal way that he can get his money back.
I am sure that this is just a story to teach a lesson and not a real story because the details are not in line, However the lessons I have picked up from this story are;
When it comes to financial issues, trust should not easily be given,
As an individual who gambles, be content with whatever amount you can spare to gamble,
Learn to do your things yourself.
Issues like this can be avoided if the three lessons mentioned above are practiced.
When it comes to financial issues, trust should not easily be given,
As an individual who gambles, be content with whatever amount you can spare to gamble,
Learn to do your things yourself.
Issues like this can be avoided if the three lessons mentioned above are practiced.
Nice story OP. If I were Charles, I will chase that guy and start with his family asking where did Kelvin go and tell them the whole story. If I found out where does kelvin go I would probably chase him and ask him to at least give the capital that I spent to the match then it will be settled, It is the minimum thing I can do since I'm sure I can't force him and Kelvin intend to run in the first place because of his greediness, I'm sure the capital is not much compared to the winnings he was blinded for. We will make the karma make it's revenge. After all of that I'm sure that if I were in that situation, I will never going to trust easily after that kind of situation.
this is called the enemy in the blanket, I never trust anyone in gambling because we know gambling is one aspect that can make a person do anything when he is in such a condition. maybe if i were charles i would demand justice for my right to the winnings in that gamble. at least we should try to get our rights and if he does something silly or accuses otherwise then this becomes a breaking point in the friendship between him and us. believe me this may be a valuable point for someone not to trust anyone too much in gambling, including even close friends.
There are lots of ways to run on Kevin. Since they are friends, expect that they also know their respective families. How it turned up that Kevin was easily able to go away without a trace. Since part of the used money on betting was also owned by Charles, then that's a clear theft already. He just needs to clarify everything for his claim and put pressure on Kevin.
Anyway, I think that's just a made-up story. Although possible to happen in real life, I don't believe that it can easily happen in reality.
Please don't make it a habit of creating a thread like this.
Of course our first reaction is to really look for your friend and get the split money, after all this is what you have plan right? Nevertheless, Kelvin has run around with the money already and maybe by the time he caught up with him the money might be gone for good.
So obviously there will be a problem right there, friendship might have severed already because you have trusted him and unfortunately greed takes over. I'll probably let him go but it's going to be over.
And there could be some individual that will go to the extend to hurt the Kelvin physically, to be honest.
So obviously there will be a problem right there, friendship might have severed already because you have trusted him and unfortunately greed takes over. I'll probably let him go but it's going to be over.
And there could be some individual that will go to the extend to hurt the Kelvin physically, to be honest.
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