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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket

I'm just wondering how fustrating this could be to anyone involved, imagine after getting this wins and you can't remember the exact place the tickets was bought is that not  an unfruitful journey of no return, and I wonder how some persons think this days and go about personal things that really need much attention to. And I probably think from the look of things he's going to loose that money cause since he can't get a recall on where he bought it, then it'll definitely be a plus to the lottery place.

I'm  still surprised how he managed to forget where he obtained the lottery ticket, its a shock to me because  I remember  every location I've made my bet irrespective of the fact that I mostly gamble on my phone. Well its obvious that all bet are registered on the agent's id or yours depending on where you placed the bet and if he couldn't remember the agent who he gambled on his platform, then I guess he has lost his win. This is another reason to prove that, playing gamble on your device is better than attending any physical gambling center to play games that can also be played with your smart phone remotely. Physical casino or other gambling physical gambling services could even attract thieve to locating your resident.
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According to the article, I think he later got his reward from the lottery company - that’s after the news media got involved. If he had kept quiet and just continue chasing it quietly he wouldn’t have gotten anything but since the company might be scared of their reputation being ruined just because of a thousand dollars reward they had to recheck his case and sent him his reward.
It seems like he learned a tough lesson about keeping track of his ticket properly! Fortunately, with the media stepping in, he ended up getting what he deserved. It's true that sometimes public attention can help push companies to resolve cases they might otherwise overlook, especially when it could impact their reputation.

IMO, the location where the ticket has been purchased in kind of irrelevant since who has the ticket is supposed to get the rewards and these extra terms are just to avoid paying the rewards to some even after they have everything that is necessary but from the user side it's good to keep track where we bought and if lottery company make it necessary to provide the purchase receipt then it is their responsibility to give one along with the ticket.
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According to the article, I think he later got his reward from the lottery company - that’s after the news media got involved. If he had kept quiet and just continue chasing it quietly he wouldn’t have gotten anything but since the company might be scared of their reputation being ruined just because of a thousand dollars reward they had to recheck his case and sent him his reward.
It seems like he learned a tough lesson about keeping track of his ticket properly! Fortunately, with the media stepping in, he ended up getting what he deserved. It's true that sometimes public attention can help push companies to resolve cases they might otherwise overlook, especially when it could impact their reputation.
A lesson learnt that this is something that cant be forgotten or something that will really be a lifetime thing that he would really be thinking off with specially if the amount involved is really that talking about life changing or something that involves that tens or hundreds of millions then you will really be having a hard time on making yourself that able to move on or simply it wont really be a short time thing. On next time you would be betting with lottery then you would definitely be locking up those tickets on a safe box and will really be attentively checking whether those tickets did able to hit up or not but well its already too late.
You cant be able to ignore nor easily forgot on what you have experienced, thats why you should really be that careful on dealing up with things.
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According to the article, I think he later got his reward from the lottery company - that’s after the news media got involved. If he had kept quiet and just continue chasing it quietly he wouldn’t have gotten anything but since the company might be scared of their reputation being ruined just because of a thousand dollars reward they had to recheck his case and sent him his reward.
It seems like he learned a tough lesson about keeping track of his ticket properly! Fortunately, with the media stepping in, he ended up getting what he deserved. It's true that sometimes public attention can help push companies to resolve cases they might otherwise overlook, especially when it could impact their reputation.
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According to the article, I think he later got his reward from the lottery company - that’s after the news media got involved. If he had kept quiet and just continue chasing it quietly he wouldn’t have gotten anything but since the company might be scared of their reputation being ruined just because of a thousand dollars reward they had to recheck his case and sent him his reward.
Didn't read the article yet actually but that's a good news to hear. I will be very disappointed to myself if it happens to me and didn't get the reward after. But i just remember i didn't bet any sweepstakes lottery lately so that will not happen lol.
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it. It drew my interest, and I wondered if forum users could still tell where they purchased all of their lottery tickets in the previous six months (For those who still engage if physical tickets).


If you’re interested in the news you can read it here: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-can-t-collect-lottery-prize-after-he-forgets-where-he-bought-ticket-1.6924708

In my opinion, this is a very bad trend. There is a basic rule in jurisprudence - the principle of presumption of innocence. This rule was borrowed from ancient Roman law. The principle of presumption of innocence means that any person is initially considered innocent.

The burden of proof of guilt lies not with the accused, but with the accuser. It is the accuser who must provide compelling evidence of the person's guilt.

However, in the situation under consideration, it is the lottery organizer who requires the participant to prove that he is the legitimate owner of the lottery ticket, which gives the right to win. However, on what basis does the lottery organizer act in this way? Does he have irrefutable evidence that this person is a criminal? That he stole this lottery ticket from another person?

Having a lottery ticket in hand, in my opinion, is a necessary and sufficient condition for receiving a win. The lottery organizer is not a representative of law enforcement agencies and does not have the right to ask this person additional questions. 

He just has to identify him (write down his passport details) and pay him his winnings.
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I believe that a casino should not require a lottery ticket buyer to provide information about where he bought the lottery ticket. The lottery ticket itself should be enough to win. Indeed, any lottery ticket buyer can forget where he bought it. Why should we remember this? Often, such information should be kept by distributors. For example, you are the person responsible for distributing tickets to points of sale. Then you know the ticket numbers that you provide for sale to each point of sale.
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...a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it.
Isn't this necessary, right? Why would you forget such thing when buying on lottery tickets, that's a wrong move, then he go to claiming office without knowing it. He will regret that decision for life not until he win another lottery in which i don't it will happen again.

According to the article, I think he later got his reward from the lottery company - that’s after the news media got involved. If he had kept quiet and just continue chasing it quietly he wouldn’t have gotten anything but since the company might be scared of their reputation being ruined just because of a thousand dollars reward they had to recheck his case and sent him his reward.
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...a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it.
Isn't this necessary, right? Why would you forget such thing when buying on lottery tickets, that's a wrong move, then he go to claiming office without knowing it. He will regret that decision for life not until he win another lottery in which i don't it will happen again.
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Seems like bs to me and discouraging to even take part in the lottery.  Maybe he should have stuck to playing a scratchcard type ticket but the number of people who buy a ticket while passing by in their job or just some random shopping must be massive.  To deny all those people for keeping track of everything do possible going back weeks or months if they forgot the ticket is kinda ridiculous.
  I know this must be a security precaution to prevent random people claiming a win on a ticket they did not originally buy, fraud can follow that path.   Its unfair to presume he is guilty of anything and deny the prize and thats going to shake my faith in their lottery and make me look elsewhere.
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It was totally the guy's fault because he bought the ticket but couldn't remember where he bought it from. I think the man was intoxicated and the man had a lot to drink when he bought the ticket which is why he can't remember where he actually bought the ticket from. In our country government lottery lotteries are given at different times based on different events but there is a specific center to sell those lotteries where later on one must know many things related to the tickets. If the person forgets the place to buy the ticket then he can go to the nearest shopping mall or restaurant and discuss maybe they can tell the place to buy the ticket.
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket

I'm just wondering how fustrating this could be to anyone involved, imagine after getting this wins and you can't remember the exact place the tickets was bought is that not  an unfruitful journey of no return, and I wonder how some persons think this days and go about personal things that really need much attention to. And I probably think from the look of things he's going to loose that money cause since he can't get a recall on where he bought it, then it'll definitely be a plus to the lottery place.
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This is more common for those who purchase their ticket in any location not minding what might happen, anyone who choose a particular spot can always recall even beyond six months. It all depends personally if I’m the type that always go for ticket games I will prefer just one or two shop because if involving more probably I can’t recall. This is not a lesson rather it’s just a mistake but it’s best others take correction, he forgot due to certain reasons but I strongly believe too much betting activity in different shop result to this. I don’t know how this customer care work because I hardly play lottery bet but it’s best if casino shops keep in touch with their customers rather if there’s any positive outcome they can always reach out. The person in question is at fault, if this law should be implemented meanwhile casinos have more busy duty compared to customer care.
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Also what I wanna ask is  I believe that lottery winners are entitled to claim the winning as long as
they have the ticket so why this become the problem here? is this the way of the lottery team to prevent
winners taking their money?

This thread is so old that I have even forgotten about it and what happened again - but from the little memories I can recall, I think the reason for this was so that they won’t redeem tickets for thief. Anyone can just steal tickets and go and get redeem the price so for them to be sure that they ain’t redeeming it for the wrong owner they had to ask the person in possession of it to provide with information about where they purchased it and it’s also in their Terms if I’m not mistaken.
Is it possible? How they would really be gonna doing that?

When you do go into lottery ticket centers or establishments is that on the moment that you do buy up tickets then you would really be directly be purchasing it without
any questions asked as long you do input those combinations and paid up with the ticket price then youre good to go. There's no such thing about having those KYC or tying up your name
on the ticket that you have bought. This is why making up some verification is something that having no sense. They dont know who owned the ticket and thats why
whenever someone who do posses the lost ticket will really be the one will be claiming up that prize without asking any question, thats why its important that you should really  be keeping
those tickets than on regretting for the rest of your life on losing it.
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Also what I wanna ask is  I believe that lottery winners are entitled to claim the winning as long as
they have the ticket so why this become the problem here? is this the way of the lottery team to prevent
winners taking their money?

This thread is so old that I have even forgotten about it and what happened again - but from the little memories I can recall, I think the reason for this was so that they won’t redeem tickets for thief. Anyone can just steal tickets and go and get redeem the price so for them to be sure that they ain’t redeeming it for the wrong owner they had to ask the person in possession of it to provide with information about where they purchased it and it’s also in their Terms if I’m not mistaken.
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Its kinda weird he bought the lottery ticket and then he didn't know where he bought it, even me I still remember the stores I often go for just to buy a lottery ticket. Here in my country they have the list of the places located where the winner is so they don't need to ask for it, and most of the winners here just bring the lottery ticket for the verification that they are the winner, I guess its quite a bit hassle if he need to give the info where he bought or else he just get the ticket somewhere, there's a lot of possible cases but he holds the ticket no. so I guess he deserve to get the prize.

Here in my country, when people buy lottery tickets, they leave their phone numbers and ID numbers. This way, when the person gets the winning ticket and takes time to claim the prize, the lottery company calls the winner and searches for the winner until they find him or her to claim the prize. To prove that the person won the prize, the lottery company records a video in which the lottery winner confirms that he or she received the prize. This way, it shows transparency and ensures that every winner will get his or her prize. That's why I was shocked when I saw in this thread that in other countries things are very different and leave room for the lottery companies to keep the prizes of the winners.
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I am also surprised that he couldn't remember where he bought the lottery ticket. It is possible that he usually buys tickets from different locations, he has medical issues that affect his memory, or he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol when he bought the ticket. But it is good to know that the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation (OLG) started processing Rirong Zhou's win. It will be a big lesson to everyone to always record the details of your lottery tickets to avoid going through the same stress.   
usually, we tend to buy lottery tickets in one or two places only. that is the closest to our location or the place we pass most often. so there is not much possibility that we forget where we bought the ticket.
if a special situation occurs, such as a ticket buyer who is actually not aware of which store he bought the ticket in, he should definitely be accompanied by someone who can remember it. but if he actually bought the ticket randomly in several stores, it might be difficult to remember it. but at least he should not buy more than 5 stores closest to him. I think it is not difficult to identify that.
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What I know about such a scenario is that as long as you hold the ticket, you will still get your winning price in the lottery, even if we say that you forgot where it was purchased. Because there are instances where we see a lottery outlet but we are not aware of the place sometimes, and that is probably what happened to that person.
You are correct. The lottery company just want to be sure that he is the rightful winner. Even if he fails to answer the location question correctly, they might decide to ask him another question. However, the lottery ticket is the most important proof. 

Its kinda weird he bought the lottery ticket and then he didn't know where he bought it, even me I still remember the stores I often go for just to buy a lottery ticket. Here in my country they have the list of the places located where the winner is so they don't need to ask for it, and most of the winners here just bring the lottery ticket for the verification that they are the winner, I guess its quite a bit hassle if he need to give the info where he bought or else he just get the ticket somewhere, there's a lot of possible cases but he holds the ticket no. so I guess he deserve to get the prize.
I am also surprised that he couldn't remember where he bought the lottery ticket. It is possible that he usually buys tickets from different locations, he has medical issues that affect his memory, or he was under the influence of drugs or alcohol when he bought the ticket. But it is good to know that the Ontario Lottery and Gaming Corporation (OLG) started processing Rirong Zhou's win. It will be a big lesson to everyone to always record the details of your lottery tickets to avoid going through the same stress.   
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I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it. It drew my interest, and I wondered if forum users could still tell where they purchased all of their lottery tickets in the previous six months (For those who still engage if physical tickets).


If you’re interested in the news you can read it here: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-can-t-collect-lottery-prize-after-he-forgets-where-he-bought-ticket-1.6924708

This is a very strange rule, as it creates the feeling that they just don't want to give him the prize. What difference does it make where he bought the ticket, if he has this ticket in his hands and it's not a fake? There is no such stupid rule in the country where I live. You can buy a ticket even in the capital, even at a gas station. Moreover, if someone gives me a lottery ticket, then I can still get a win on it. In general, this guy has a strange story.
A rule is a rule though, even in online casinos there are rules that stand and can't be broken. And those rules are meant to favor the casino platform more than the gamblers in it. I think by now he should be more conversant with the rules when it comes to the type of gambling he does. Like in sports betting I know what is to be done and what is not to be done. If I bet in a local casino I am expected to keep my bet slip properly and remember the location where I placed the bet so that when I go in turn to take my money if i win I won't be denied of it. There are a lot of cases of gamblers who lost their money because they failed to show proof of their bet slip. This is a similar situation to this gambler.
Rule are rules and if you cant be able to present that proof of winning like with those lottery tickets then there would really be no exemption on which if you have lost it then say goodbye into your winning
and that would really be that a regretful thing on which you cant be able to forget into your lifetime specially if the amount is really that something that a life changing one, then you would really be banging up
yourself into the wall on where you have placed that winning ticket. You cant really be able to tell that you wont be able to do the same stuff because if you've been that placing up bets or having those buying tickets for a long time with lottery tickets then you might really be that able to forget those things on where you would be placing. Whom had thought that you have win up the jackpot? There would really be that a time that
you will really be that buying and misplace those tickets afterwards because you are already expecting that you wouldnt be able to hit up.

It is really just that too unlikely for a lottery bettor on having this kind of behavior because in every bets or tickets purchase we are really that making then we are really that
expecting for us to win and as a primary rule then you should be keeping those tickets in the safe place and should be presented on the moment or time that you will
be able to claim up your prize. If you wont be able to do so then no winnings would be claimed on which as simple as that.
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Its kinda weird he bought the lottery ticket and then he didn't know where he bought it, even me I still remember the stores I often go for just to buy a lottery ticket. Here in my country they have the list of the places located where the winner is so they don't need to ask for it, and most of the winners here just bring the lottery ticket for the verification that they are the winner, I guess its quite a bit hassle if he need to give the info where he bought or else he just get the ticket somewhere, there's a lot of possible cases but he holds the ticket no. so I guess he deserve to get the prize.
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