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Quote from: Cantsay on June 13, 2024, 05:19:28 PM

I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it. It drew my interest, and I wondered if forum users could still tell where they purchased all of their lottery tickets in the previous six months (For those who still engage if physical tickets).

If you’re interested in the news you can read it here: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-can-t-collect-lottery-prize-after-he-forgets-where-he-bought-ticket-1.6924708

I think it can be verified on the ticket itself where it was bought, that's a lot of pressure from a person who purchased the ticket to provide full information. Unlike here in my place when you won a certain lottery then there's no hassle you can claim your price instantly if the ticket is legit and authentic. The only problem here is that he been delayed in claiming the price because it's already been 6 months, that's why there's always a lot of requirements. Unless if attempt of claims will be done in a short period of time I guess it won't take a problem on verification.

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 13, 2024, 05:19:28 PM

I noticed on the news that a man won a lottery and when he arrived to claim his prize, he was requested to state or provide information about where he purchased the lottery ticket, which he couldn't do because he didn't know where he obtained it. It drew my interest, and I wondered if forum users could still tell where they purchased all of their lottery tickets in the previous six months (For those who still engage if physical tickets).

If you’re interested in the news you can read it here: https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-man-can-t-collect-lottery-prize-after-he-forgets-where-he-bought-ticket-1.6924708

Well I don't do lottery tickets that much but I do understand the fact that keeping to vital information is key especially when they find a place to trap you. For some reason I won't blame the fellow because he might have actually had some feelings of nonchalance because of maybe due to the fact that the many they have bought have all been asked. Even in your betting accounts one can still make Mistakes, @when you fail to have the right credentials for the Watters.

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I am a forgetful person and I may not remember exactly where I've bought things like a lottery ticket but I can have some descriptions to say but not exactly where I am able to purchase it. So, that might help for our future lottery winners here if you can just have some few descriptions to remember.

Quote from: uneng on June 13, 2024, 05:37:43 PM

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After CTV News got in touch with OLG, they took another look at Zhou’s case. He’s since been informed his cheque has been processed and will be sent shortly to him in the mail, which was great news for him.

After some pressure from the media, the casino felt forced to pay the prize to the winner. In this case the media was very helpful and the gambler should be really thanful to them for that. On the other hand, after reading these news, I wouldn't feel comfortable using OLG's gambling services as customer, because their excuses are shady and seem to have as main goal to scam the winners. If a gambler has a ticket and the ticket is awarded, they should just pay the prize to the individual claiming it. Maybe the winner doesn't want to reveal himself, so they shouldn't force him to do so.

Well, thankfully crypto gambling exists, so gamblers don't need to expose themselves to this kind of embarrassing situation.

This is good news. Actually, if he's got the ticket then it's a testament that he did really bought for the ticket. It's a case to case basis and they can have it checked on their database where the ticket was purchased. I am not sure with these companies because they have records of it but they just want to hear it out from the winner for verification. Or they don't want to distribute the prize money of that guy that he deserves. Anyway, the winner has been cleared and they're going to release that then. Still, a happy ending that we've got here from this story.

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I think it is possible to say or draw out where he purchase the ticket even if it was from 6 months, cause for sure he would know where he would always purchase ticket if he has been doing it for a long time, and if it is just out of nowhere then he could still have some place in his mind if he is the real owner of that ticket.
But for me if he have the winning ticket then why wouldn't they release it, or give him the amount that the ticket won?

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It will be that specific lottery, in real terms they do a stupid verification, and if they don't approve it, there is a secondary review that takes months, to finally pay..

What a stupidity, and honestly knowing where you bought a ticket can be complex if you are a hardened player, you buy a ticket in any business where you see one.

^{ah, BTW they paid him the prize}.

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Quote from: Sim_card on June 14, 2024, 11:11:54 AM

Maybe the gambler in question was on alcohol or high on cheap weed that will make him forget where he bought his lottery ticket from. If not how is that possible. Assuming he lost his ticket that is understandable, but this is about your own brain to think where he got that ticket from. Who knows if he claims to be the owner but he is not. Gamblers can be funny sometimes, and act funny, because of big dreams.

Totally forgetting where he bought his ticket could create another issue, that he might only steal that ticket from a shop or certainly from its original owner. There’s no way you will forget that, unless if you are drunk that time you bought it.

However, the important thing is this issue has been resolved already and his winning prize is already in process. But maybe this could leave a lesson somehow to always remember or even record where you purchase your ticket cause it might be a big deal when you happen to win the jackpot.

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Quote from: alani123 on June 13, 2024, 06:22:39 PM

Why does it matter where you bought the ticket? If you have the ticket that should be enough information to be able to track where it was bought and cross-check.
This is one of the more absurd stories and one further reason to pick the lotteries you're playing with carefully. Some companies place absurd rules on their punters that it can get crazy sometimes.

It's a standard security thing, the tickets have no nominal data on them so it opens a lot of possibility of fraud and theft which is not uncommon
Massachusetts store clerk and co-worker indicted after allegedly stealing $3 million lottery ticket
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/3-million-lottery-ticket-stolen-massachusetts-store-clerk-carly-nunes-indicted/
Two female employees of a lottery retail outlet in Ontario were arrested and are facing charges for their alleged involvement in claiming of a prize from a stolen winning ticket, according to reports.
https://www.hcamag.com/ca/specialization/employment-law/2-employees-arrested-after-claiming-prize-from-winning-lottery-ticket/490821
Winning $50K lottery ticket stolen from store by employee
https://lfpress.com/news/local-news/winning-50k-lottery-ticket-stolen-from-store-by-employee-opp

and a hundred more, ticket theft still is quite rampant despite a ton of new procedures and security, and despite clerks being told to remind customers about this.

Quote from: HelliumZ on June 14, 2024, 08:00:25 AM

Very funny but sad thing is that even after winning the ticket in the lottery he is unable to collect the lottery money because he already lost the lottery. Since he lost and forgot where he collected the lottery from, there is no chance of him getting the lottery winnings.

Where do I say he has lost a thing and how would he have lost in the first place?
Did you actually read the article posted, he already cashed in!

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Quote from: Cantsay on June 13, 2024, 05:19:28 PM

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Lolz!! The topic made me laugh. This has happened to many gamblers. There was a day I put the ticket/slip in my pant pocket and I forget to removed it and I watched the pants so I lost the ticket. And the following day the game enter but no way to claim the price so I lost the winning just like that. So this is not a new thing in the gambling industry but a frequent scenario for gamblers. And why the guy for get where he bet the slip because he has bet in many betting shops and probably the ticket is not even from his location but I'm another community where has travelled to. If not the matter what, the name of the casino must be on the ticket which he would have used to locate the bet shop in his location but probably it was from another side.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on June 14, 2024, 04:49:05 PM

Complete garbage. Why would that even matter in terms of validating a winning ticket. What if you are drunk and bought a lottery ticket and forget. Who cares. Just another way to collect tons of money with all these loopholes of why they don't need to pay. So scammy.

They could also consider it a security measure instead of directly calling it a means to deny the person access to the payment, but at the end of the story, their scam scheme didn't succeed as the man didn't give up. How he did it was not mentioned in the article, but it was later said he was later handed over a desire reward after several months of battle.

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The narrative of a man winning the lottery but unable to retrieve his prize as he could not recall where he purchased his ticket is rather fascinating. It brings into light the need to maintain a record of such purchases, perhaps more so if you still deal with physical tickets. An intriguing story indeed, with a valuable lesson to be learned.

If you are among the individuals who still use physical tickets, it would be a good idea to keep evidence of your purchase. For instance, jot down the date and place of purchase on the back of the ticket or hold onto the receipt from the transaction.

Remembering every place you bought a lottery ticket in the last six months might be hard, especially if you buy from many different places often. Keeping clean records can make it easier to substantiate purchases and sidestep situations where awards go unclaimed.

What do you think? Do you find yourself compelled to start recording where you purchase lottery tickets?

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on June 14, 2024, 11:49:16 AM

- It is possible to forget where the ticket was purchased, especially if the person who bought it is old, or someone else may not remember where they bought it. Because the important thing is that he has the ticket, and it will be properly given to the person in charge if he ever wins the jackpot prize.

I have never heard of a lotto winner being disqualified just because they couldn't remember which lotto outlet they bought it from. Because they needed to claim their prize jackpot, they had to hold the ticket to prove that they really were the winner.

Exactly to me, I see no reason why they will deprive him of collecting his price when he has already won the lottery. Although many casinos have their own rules, to me, I can just say that it might be that the casino didn’t want to pay him his money; if not, they would most likely be an indication that they might see and if the ticket has been sold in any other branch of the casino without any difference, so I see no reason to tell him to know the exact place that he obtained the ticket from.

Although I have ever encountered similar issues, that one is the winner at fault because he won the game but lost his ticket, which he has no proof to claim the money. That is why I prefer online casinos. All these issues will not be present, and it will be less stressful and also very confidential. No one will know your secret, no one will know if you are a gambler or not, and that is the best.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on June 14, 2024, 04:40:10 PM

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Unless the lottery ticket was given to him for free or as a gift by someone, if not, how possible is it that one can't remember where they bought their lottery ticket from, or an event that he might have eventually won the ticket?

It might take him a little time to think, but it's not something that he can forget completely so easily. If it's a lottery ticket, he should go back to his credit card or debit card purchase history. Maybe he could be able to trace back where he made the purchase of tickets in the last few months.

And if it's a gift, as you claim, how does one confirm it was a gift by a third person who, upon hearing that the ticket was winning, might claim it was stolen by them? It's generally a complex matter, and it's understandable that they're asking questions to verify that he's the legitimate owner of the ticket.

The article mentions doesn't disclose what further investigation the OLG did in order to release the money and send the check; it only implies that it was received well over a year later, while it usually requires 6 to 8 weeks.

Indeed, it's a complex situation that really needs careful attention in order not to give out the lottery reward to someone who does not deserve it.

My own here is just that it's very uncommon for someone to forget about the origin of their lottery ticket. That's why I assume, "Unless it's something that was given to him or her by someone else and he doesn't know where the person originally got it from,.

Since the reward was later handed over, it means the person has somehow cleared the air that it truly belongs to him and that it was not something that was illegally obtained.

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Complete garbage. Why would that even matter in terms of validating a winning ticket. What if you are drunk and bought a lottery ticket and forget. Who cares. Just another way to collect tons of money with all these loopholes of why they don't need to pay. So scammy.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on June 13, 2024, 05:52:37 PM

Unless the lottery ticket was given to him for free or as a gift by someone, if not, how possible is it that one can't remember where they bought their lottery ticket from, or an event that he might have eventually won the ticket?

It might take him a little time to think, but it's not something that he can forget completely so easily. If it's a lottery ticket, he should go back to his credit card or debit card purchase history. Maybe he could be able to trace back where he made the purchase of tickets in the last few months.

And if it's a gift, as you claim, how does one confirm it was a gift by a third person who, upon hearing that the ticket was winning, might claim it was stolen by them? It's generally a complex matter, and it's understandable that they're asking questions to verify that he's the legitimate owner of the ticket.

The article mentions doesn't disclose what further investigation the OLG did in order to release the money and send the check; it only implies that it was received well over a year later, while it usually requires 6 to 8 weeks.

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Quote from: Sim_card on June 14, 2024, 11:11:54 AM

Maybe the gambler in question was on alcohol or high on cheap weed that will make him forget where he bought his lottery ticket from. If not how is that possible. Assuming he lost his ticket that is understandable, but this is about your own brain to think where he got that ticket from. Who knows if he claims to be the owner but he is not. Gamblers can be funny sometimes, and act funny, because of big dreams.

From what I read, the gambler tried reaching the physical lottery point severally through calls and emails, yet it was futile to claiming his reward, they always assure him of its redemption, but its all a deceit and kinda delay for him to forget about the ticket, but his activist friend rose up to the challenge and dragged the organization until they finally paid him off.

He might have been drunk or high as you said, furthermore very careless to only have observed that he won the ticket months later before he pursued his wins. Its possible that the lottery branch he played in had waited and since he's not showing up thought possibly that he's not going to come and achieved his funds, he showed up from nowhere to demand his wins forcing then to vomit what they've already swallowed which must've led to the longer time of unresponsiveness.

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The spokesperson added, “When a winning ticket of $1,000 or more is presented for claim, the OLG Prize Centre is required to determine the rightful ownership of that ticket. As part of the standard prize claim review process, claimants are asked a series of questions to determine ticket ownership, such as, 'where did you purchase the ticket?', 'when did you purchase the ticket?' or 'did you purchase any other lottery products such as ENCORE or another game at the same time?'"

I see no need putting blames on the casino for their refusal to pay the supposed claimant, we are talking about a huge amount of money and it is very possible that anyone can just walk to the casino and try to claim what is not rightfully his. I find it hard to believe that someone will be unable to give any information on where and how he bought the lottery tickets, chances are that it is either he is lying or he bought the ticket from an unauthorised vendor. People can be tricky therefore we need to be smart not to fall for any form of blackmail.

If i ever play any lottery, I'll make sure i keep every documents pertaining to the lottery intact, including receipts, tickets and even the most insignificant writeups on a plain sheet. I should be able to proof that i am the bonafide winner. If at the end of the whole investigation and he is still not given the money, his carelessly caused me such great loss.

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Bet shops in my area operate in similar rules, if you can't provide the best slip or your ticket then you can't claim your mkney if you won it, so you would see a lot of persons holding on yo their slips cause they know its the olby way to get their money, there was even a man that played a long running game for about 3 months and when hiswon the game he had to start finding the slip, he Brought an only copy for them but they didn't accept, so he had yo start looking for it, luckily he found it in his old jeans trousers.

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That is kind of weird if you asked me,. here works different here in country he comes to lottery. One does not need to know exactly where or at what agency one acquired or purchased the winning ticket.
Actually, the only thing that matter is you have the ticket to proof you are the rightful winner then give that winning ticket to an agency which is an official representative of the lottery, it does not even need to be the same place where one bought the ticket.
If there is any reasonable explanation to this, then I cannot find it, beyond giving more excuses for lottery winners not being able to get their prize because little details which have be irrelevant when compared the high amount of luck he had to get the weight ticket. I am pretty much in favor on how it works here in my country, It is easier that straightforward enough for anyone never to lose their won money to administrative and inner regulatory stupidness by those lottery companies... Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on June 14, 2024, 11:49:16 AM

- It is possible to forget where the ticket was purchased, especially if the person who bought it is old, or someone else may not remember where they bought it. Because the important thing is that he has the ticket, and it will be properly given to the person in charge if he ever wins the jackpot prize.

I have never heard of a lotto winner being disqualified just because they couldn't remember which lotto outlet they bought it from. Because they needed to claim their prize jackpot, they had to hold the ticket to prove that they really were the winner.

Ontario Lottery has different policy and I think other countries has different policy too over claiming lottery prize.

I read the article and I learned that they have a standard protocol of asking some questions to verify that the lotto winner is the rightful owner of the ticket. Also the victim in subject is not old but in mid range man which is capable on remembering where he purchased his ticket.

I believed the main concern is not answering security verification but rather the claiming time is already over due to the delayed transfer of the money until they use the security verification question as reason to delay the released of reward.

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- It is possible to forget where the ticket was purchased, especially if the person who bought it is old, or someone else may not remember where they bought it. Because the important thing is that he has the ticket, and it will be properly given to the person in charge if he ever wins the jackpot prize.

I have never heard of a lotto winner being disqualified just because they couldn't remember which lotto outlet they bought it from. Because they needed to claim their prize jackpot, they had to hold the ticket to prove that they really were the winner.

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