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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

Don't make a fool of yourself trying to prove a point for some nonsense reputation that nobody gives a fuck about.

Just a friendly advise..

There is always the internet to confirm information's that we are not sure of because it is the right thing to do instead of arguing blindly and foolishly like we are trying to impress someone. It is almost impossible for one person to know everything, there is always room for learning and we are all learning from each other in one way or the other, so to argue blindly on something you do not know means you are trying to be above learning and correction like you know everything already.

It does not always happen, but a Legendary member can still have something to learn from a full member, a senior member or a hero member. Our ranks do not mean that we know everything.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

I've observed a little mistakes that newbies like me usually make during conversations here in the forum. I have made this mistake here before, I suppose it was my first thread I created in this forum where I was arguing about some rubbish I thought I knew about.

Newbies/beginners and senior colleagues too do make this mistake of arguing with people in conversations that are not worth arguing about. Instead of responding to some quote where you were corrected you can just learn and remain silent than make some blind arguments that can lead to more wilder conversation that will either be out of point from the actual discussion.
Most times I see people creating enemies for themselves because they want to prove a point that they know some bull shit.

I will advise my fellow beginners to respect some correction and not make arguments just to prove yourself knowledged. instead of arguing you can just learn without quoting them back and blabbing rubbish. even till now some senior colleagues are still arguing with themselves because they feel they have the knowledge which someone is try to inculcate in them.

Don't make a fool of yourself trying to prove a point for some nonsense reputation that nobody gives a fuck about.

Just a friendly advise..

Being a high rank members doesn't mean that a newbies opinion should be treated as trash or as a place for arguments because the forum is meant to be a place of learning, and I think even our senior colleagues are learning new things every day. When I see a post and want to read other people's opinions to learn, I usually start reading from people in a high rank because I believe they have more experience than us. This is why we beginners look up to you we believe we will learn from you better but don't get me wrong I just feel like that is the easiest way for me to learn because everyone has their own learning method.

some beginners are engaging in larger conversations that lead to arguments hoping to boost their activity level, just because they want to rank up quickly. However, ranking up cannot be achieved in this way, the only way to rank up is to conduct thorough research and read comments, as there are always varying perspectives from both novices and senior colleagues. This allows you to create high-quality posts of your own.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

The best tip of surviving here on the forum, my advice is not to violate forum rules which include spamming, Brsut posting, Copying & pasting without giving source links like where to take it from, Using AI tools, and Plagrsim. These kinds of mistakes are being by the forum watchers to make a clean forum from unnecessary users.

If any of your bad mistakes are detected by the watchers your account will be banned. So, it is very important to stay pure to survive here. Many Thanks. I remember one account that was a newly full-member account and due to one mistake, his account got banned the mistake was plagiarism without a source.

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In my humble opinion, this forum is a space for sharing knowledge and opinions, emphasizing open discussions without emotional reactions or arrogance.The forum members are encouraged to express their thoughts calmly, fostering a conducive environment. It's crucial not to impose ideas on others, maintaining a respectful tone to prevent aggressive responses. Ego should be set aside to create a harmonious space where diverse opinions can coexist. The goal is to keep the forum welcoming, allowing everyone to share their insights without suppressing their individual knowledge and perspectives.

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Know that once you enter in a forum, there will be a parade of ideas that each one of you will share, but that does not mean that one is better than another. But sometimes, once your idea is off topic or not relevant to the thread, then the seniors will surely correct your post not to humiliate or offend you, but to correct your mistake so you won’t be continuously believing in a wrong concept. That is actually leading you to the right path, hence you should be grateful that your post is being noticed and corrected, otherwise you will always have to carry a misconception.

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This is a forum and I think arguments like that will never stop in the forum. Even though it is better for one to be sure of their argument before making conclusion to attack another person about their claim in a particular subject matter, some won’t care and will want to always prove a point for others to follow their own claim which they will want it to be the best. If you’re a regular user that does that, you’ll become popular but that is not a good reputation for you, so this is far from being a reputable member through that means.

It is good to always get your facts right before arguing with others, a lot of users that will burst into your post can learn one or two from there. If you’ve spit something unreliable and false, some people will have it in their mind for the rest of their lives and will never get the chance to remove it as they feel it is the best thing they’ve learnt from there. If you’re not sure, please don’t argue and allow ti be corrected as there’s no crime in that.

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Quote from: kentrolla on January 18, 2024, 10:38:23 AM

Yes, this should be applicable for both the newbie as well as senior members because there is no hard and fast rule that seniors can always be correct and newbie will always be at fault. One shouldn't take any response personally and even if we are pointing out someone's mistake it should be articulated in a way that it should be fair and not like calling them spammers or embarrassing them. Purpose of this forum is to share the knowledge which should be beneficial for everyone, let's maintain decorum and use this forum for it's purpose as it's not social media to argue over petty things.

You’re right. It’s not right over wrong here but everyone should be given the chance to share its own insights and feels free to accept correction if there is any so that he will stop doing the same mistake again. And there’s no superiority here, everyone is fair regardless if its position. The forum is designed to establish learning on both sides, most especially for newbies who are still in the process of acquiring learning and skills.

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I've seen some of my guys create enemies for themselves trying to prove a point that won't lead them anywhere or put food on their tables, what's really the essence of arguing with an ignorant being, if I make a post and anybody that thinks he/she knows better than me says am wrong I will kindly do a proper research on that topic then come back and prove to you that I was right but if you think otherwise I will leave you alone because I don't have time to waste talking and trying to prove myself, I no fit shout, and if I know that I'm wrong I will take correction without arguing too much.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on January 18, 2024, 10:11:32 AM

One thing that I have learnt and expect others to learn too is growing a thicker skin here in the forum. no matter the response of how ill mannered a response (comment) is I will never make a personal attack on the commenter.

humans are built differently and as such I wouldn't be expecting everyone to act the same or be of good manners. So whoever is bordered about the manners of comments should learn to move on and forget about this shits. one things is certain some of this senior colleagues will always throw stones at you but use them to build yourself instead of throwing it back at them.

It’s great you’ve learnt not to get hurt and unnecessarily angry by the way some people write. Expectations in a good number of cases bring about disappointment hence having expectations from others to ignore hurtful words is futile.
Sure, we’re all different and you definitely shouldn’t be expecting everyone to act civil and be extremely polite to each other. Especially not on a forum that members are majorly anonymous.

Some members are brutally honest and don’t mince words so as to be really clear when stating their thoughts in a conversation. The other party would then choose to get hurt on the choice of words used while ignoring what was actually being said.

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There are these type of people that don't want to see theirselves at the losing end, even in simple discussion they always want to see theirselves winning even when we know the fact that there's no competition in the forum. If you are like that, then you are not supposed to be in a forum since learning should always be learned two-way and not just from a single point of view.

My piece of advice is be more open for some corrections as long as it's made for constructive criticism. Even when you think you know a lot, there's always some people that are highly experienced as you, so leave some space for accepting your mistakes and be more open to some corrections and suggestions.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

Don't make a fool of yourself trying to prove a point for some nonsense reputation that nobody gives a fuck about.

Just a friendly advise..

It’s not just about reputation, the forum is a public place, and everyone is allowed to express their opinion. If you see a post and you notice that there is something wrong with it, then you should correct the person. Regardless of the rank, you can’t see something wrong, and you will keep on overlooking it because you don’t want to argue about it. If you know what you are arguing about is right, then you should stand by your words. If everyone is keeping quiet even after seeing a mistake in a post, then some people will be wrong, and they won’t know that they are wrong because nobody corrected them after they made a post.

You arguing doesn’t give any kind of reputation on the forum here, if you are arguing and you are wrong, you are going to be corrected, and the forum was created so that we all can accumulate more knowledge about bitcoin and cryptocurrency generally, so it’s normal for people to argue.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

Newbies/beginners and senior colleagues too do make this mistake of arguing with people in conversations that are not worth arguing about. Instead of responding to some quote where you were corrected you can just learn and remain silent than make some blind arguments that can lead to more wilder conversation that will either be out of point from the actual discussion.
Most times I see people creating enemies for themselves because they want to prove a point that they know some bull shit.

What I actually observed here is not that they try to argue but most newbies quote posts that contain lots of quotes already. In a perspective of a beginner, it seems to imply that the more they quote, the longer that their post history looks. But of course, newbies and other veterans cannot be fooled by this scheme.

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Don't make a fool of yourself trying to prove a point for some nonsense reputation that nobody gives a fuck about.

I do agree with your point.

I think newbies also focus too much on arguing than actually discussing about the topic to the point that they deviate from the original material that is being talked about. They also seem to bring up unrelated and irrelevant topics just to seemingly "strengthen" their argument but everything is just fallacious and wrong.

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Yes, this should be applicable for both the newbie as well as senior members because there is no hard and fast rule that seniors can always be correct and newbie will always be at fault. One shouldn't take any response personally and even if we are pointing out someone's mistake it should be articulated in a way that it should be fair and not like calling them spammers or embarrassing them. Purpose of this forum is to share the knowledge which should be beneficial for everyone, let's maintain decorum and use this forum for it's purpose as it's not social media to argue over petty things.

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Quote from: Kalam001 on January 18, 2024, 01:22:43 AM

And please in addition to this, I will also like to advised our seniors or beginners that knows about a particular topic, have some corrections or questions to ask to also know how to ask the question, make a quote or corrections in a way that the original poster or some one that quoted about the topic should be able to understand not to reply a post in an aggressive or ill-mannered way that will leads to a dispute or unnecessary argument that might leads to a discussion that is of point with the original discussion or topic.

One thing that I have learnt and expect others to learn too is growing a thicker skin here in the forum. no matter the response of how ill mannered a response (comment) is I will never make a personal attack on the commenter.

humans are built differently and as such I wouldn't be expecting everyone to act the same or be of good manners. So whoever is bordered about the manners of comments should learn to move on and forget about this shits. one things is certain some of this senior colleagues will always throw stones at you but use them to build yourself instead of throwing it back at them.

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Quote from: SatoPrincess on December 21, 2023, 02:31:58 PM

I have noticed when corrected by older member, some newbies simply take the corrections and move on, others feel their ego bruised and tend to respond defensively, they play victim and try to make it a personal attack on their person. They can’t take criticism from senior members. I will give the same advice someone gave me when I first came here…’grow thicker skin’.

Some Newbies are quick to anger and in a forum like this patience is supposed to be their bedrock till they grow to make corrections to others . Argument in other hand is not a good sign of learning though some people will tell you that we argue to learn but it is not in every circumstance because argument might deprive you the chances of getting the right information.

However, I will encourage my fellow newbies to read more threads and accept criticism because it will help them learn more about the forum

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

Newbies/beginners and senior colleagues too do make this mistake of arguing with people in conversations that are not worth arguing about. Instead of responding to some quote where you were corrected you can just learn and remain silent than make some blind arguments that can lead to more wilder conversation that will either be out of point from the actual discussion.
Most times I see people creating enemies for themselves because they want to prove a point that they know some bull shit.

In this case it will be better to silently research to know more about a topic or discussion than to prove yourself of knowing about it when we have many people that can tell you literary about some topics but will just let it slide if a person make a mistake to prevent creating enemy for them self and I will also like to tell those of us that feels they know everything that there are some individuals in this forum that there knowledge started where yours (those of us feeling they know all) ended but they will rather inflict help to others to prevent causing conflict, argument or misunderstanding in the forum.

Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

I will advise my fellow beginners to respect some correction and not make arguments just to prove yourself knowledged. instead of arguing you can just learn without quoting them back and blabbing rubbish. even till now some senior colleagues are still arguing with themselves because they feel they have the knowledge which someone is try to inculcate in them.

And please in addition to this, I will also like to advised our seniors or beginners that knows about a particular topic, have some corrections or questions to ask to also know how to ask the question, make a quote or corrections in a way that the original poster or some one that quoted about the topic should be able to understand not to reply a post in an aggressive or ill-mannered way that will leads to a dispute or unnecessary argument that might leads to a discussion that is of point with the original discussion or topic.

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Many forum users have argued in the past for something they believe it is the truth but turned out not to be in the real deal of it after going for more research about it. This is common in human and everyone will love his/her opinion to be respected and given the choice to be the truth. Some argue blindly not because they’re saying the truth but because they can’t face the fact that what they’re saying is false and will look shameful to them if they agreed. Let’s try and do a research about any subject being argued about before coming to support a particular point about it because others learn from those post and will give an everlasting impression in their minds when persuaded that was the truth.

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Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 16, 2024, 10:26:03 PM

Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

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I want to ask you a question, does being a newbie mean you don't actually have anything yet to offer to the forum or you're inexperienced? Like there are actually some newbies here that have been into cryptocurrencies before they found this forum of which some newbies are more knowledgeable than some of the so called legendaries and higher rank members here, does it mean one should be dumb about opinion of others even when they're wrong simply because you're a newbie?

Maybe if you actually took your time to read through the 3 pages you might I found out that this question has been attended to so many times.

One thing you must know is that the word newbie according to Oxford dictionary means an inexperienced newcomer to a particular activities. but newbie in this forum only implies that you are new to the forum (environment) and not your knowledge. So you're not disputed for correcting a senior colleague, we all are humans and we have flaws, so we are prune to mistakes. if you correct someone for some mistake it doesn't guarantee your knowledge or that doesn't mean you're more knowledgeable than they are it might just be for the moment.

Here nobody is saying shouldn't correct people who are ranked higher than but don't make blind arguments that will tarnish your image or lead you to being included in an ignore list.

Quote from: Cryptoprincess101 on January 16, 2024, 10:26:03 PM

Well, I think we should stop this perception of feeling too authoritative simply because you're a higher rank member. You may actually have more experience about the forum because it took you a lot of time to build your rank but that doesn't mean you know it all as sometimes a newbie can be more productive than a higher rank member.

Certainly that fact isn't disputed, I understand your feelings right now and I promise you as time goes on will find out why so things are the way they are.

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Quote from: Churchillvv on December 21, 2023, 11:36:51 AM

I've observed a little mistakes that newbies like me usually make during conversations here in the forum. I have made this mistake here before, I suppose it was my first thread I created in this forum where I was arguing about some rubbish I thought I knew about.

Newbies/beginners and senior colleagues too do make this mistake of arguing with people in conversations that are not worth arguing about. Instead of responding to some quote where you were corrected you can just learn and remain silent than make some blind arguments that can lead to more wilder conversation that will either be out of point from the actual discussion.
Most times I see people creating enemies for themselves because they want to prove a point that they know some bull shit.

I will advise my fellow beginners to respect some correction and not make arguments just to prove yourself knowledged. instead of arguing you can just learn without quoting them back and blabbing rubbish. even till now some senior colleagues are still arguing with themselves because they feel they have the knowledge which someone is try to inculcate in them.

Don't make a fool of yourself trying to prove a point for some nonsense reputation that nobody gives a fuck about.

Just a friendly advise..

OP you're actually right on staying silent and learn from people who are in higher ranks than you but I want to ask you a question, does being a newbie mean you don't actually have anything yet to offer to the forum or you're inexperienced? Like there are actually some newbies here that have been into cryptocurrencies before they found this forum of which some newbies are more knowledgeable than some of the so called legendaries and higher rank members here, does it mean one should be dumb about opinion of others even when they're wrong simply because you're a newbie? Well, I think we should stop this perception of feeling too authoritative simply because you're a higher rank member. You may actually have more experience about the forum because it took you a lot of time to build your rank but that doesn't mean you know it all as sometimes a newbie can be more productive than a higher rank member.

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Perfectly said, I think with this post some people will learn to behave themselves, though I have been a victim of this before but I have learnt my lessons. The thing is some people feel or think they know everything because of their position not knowing that nobody is an island, you can't possibly know everything that's fact. It is very funny seeing someone arguing what is true I mean it's really funny.
Moreover, post are meant to be informative and nice but that doesn't mean someone should insult or say nonsense about a post that's is not informative or nice all in the name of trying to aim merit.

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