Topic: A piece of advise to everyone. - page 2. (Read 542 times)

No doubt arguments can not be put to stop. but can be controlled, especially when you are auguring out of point. Because many people always argue irelivant things. And this is the reason I hate to watching football in public halls. because they make me feel uncomfortable due to arguments. I am a quiet person that don't like too much noise and when I come to where people argue for no reason I walk away. Argument is good when there is learning in it. but if there is nothing to learn from it, it becomes a nuisance because nobody wants to pay attention or give a listening ear to each others.

This is a discussion forum and I think that meaningful arguments can help to make us to see points from different perspectives, if we feel like somebody's points are misleading and we come out to correct the person, perhaps the person can present argument in a civil manner to prove their point. What really matters is matured argument where in the end a win win situation will be reached, and everybody in the thread will gain more knowledgeable from two perspectives. If maturity in the use of language is applied, then the argument is based on two different ways of seeing an issue, in the end we can apply one of the perspectives as an alternative option. But if an argument is baseless where a member is bent on having the upper hand in an argument, then it's best to simply ignore such comments and move on, we shouldn't let negative people's remarks to weigh us down.

Argument some time makes people realize there strength and weakness , you can argue about what you think is right and as well become open to learn new things for learning never ends, have a second thought of you are arguing about. Humans are special being created with so many differences in character etc, therefore arguing can never be put to stop.

Mostly, people who refuse to be corrected are mostly the people who have a lot to say. And those who have a lot to say are those who often commit mistakes and throw bad impressions to others.

My point is just accept any correction that you received. Because in the first place, they might have seen you doing things the wrong way that's why criticisms are made. Do not throw criticisms back because that only shows that you are being immature and irresponsible.

For newbies, accept those corrections positively. You might be thanking them in the future because of the corrections you get, that you were able to go out from your comfort zone and unlock your own potentials.

Basically everyone respects and appreciates each other. The name is also a forum, where suggestions and opinions will always come. I think this is a normal situation, it's up to us how to interpret it and if the suggestion or opinion is good, just take it, if not, just save it and don't need to take it too far.


Talking about the level of knowledge capacity, of course each of us must be different, if everyone were the same, there would be no such thing as a questioner or an answerer, and it doesn't hurt to take a step back.

Creating an atmosphere of mutual respect is better than arguing to defend each other's arguments. You may believe that what is being debated is true according to you, as do other members, the truth of the debate depends on which side you stand on. As long as other members provide constructive correction for the common good, I actually accept it well even though the correction is from a newbie.

This is not a place to look for justifications and not an opportunity to show who is the smartest. Everyone who joins here is still in the learning process, anyone can give constructive criticism as long as they don't deviate from the topic being discussed. Additional knowledge can come from any direction, depending on whether each individual wants to accept it or not.

It's a very bad habit for someone to claim he/she knows it all. No one is master of all knowledge. Just has OP has said we should try to creat a peaceful environment as we keep learning rather than arguing over and over on a simple matter.

Disagreeing to agree is always the best in any discussion but where this individuals deviates from discussion to reputation maintenance is what amazes me e.g Where Mr. A is saying I'm a professor so you can't correct me because I have 10 degrees and Mr. B is saying education does not matter here I have experience, I have worked for so so years so you can't correct me here. It's just so disappointing... To make matter worst it's L members that engage most this arguments.

You are truly correct. people always form that habit of auguring. Although sometimes argument is helpful to clear your doubt or your perspective about something. Because sometimes we need serious argument to get convinced in what we believe to be wright which seems wrong. sometimes people know that they have been defeated in an agreement. But still continue to argue blindly because of shame or feel embarrassed. maybe it might be a newbie that try to correct a senior member,  and the senior member might feel that he /she should be more knowledgeable than a newbie and continue auguring blindly. Until the conversation turns almost useless or pointless.

Why sometimes these arguments is also Don amongst senior members. Sometimes silent is the best way to learn. The best and fast way to learn is to stop arguments and absorb the information you have gotten. Or you study more than ask or arguement.

Criticisms are normal in the forum, of course you will be often corrected and criticized especially if you are still a newbie. Just accept the fact that you are still incapable to do things in the forum, that's why you have to be more open for criticisms. As long as its constructive criticisms, then I have no against with it.

Instead of making some arguments to prove your own point, just respect every member in the forum. That is if you want to stay longer in the forum and just work at your own pace.

When two or more people want to show they're right, it's okay for them to have discussions, even if they start with disagreements. This happens a lot in a forum, which is like a place where many people with different ideas come together. It's good to see people sharing their thoughts.

But it's not a good idea if someone argues without really knowing what they're talking about. Before starting an argument, it's important to have some reasons or points to share. If someone argues without any good points, it might be embarrassing for them. So, I believe experienced members won't start arguments without having something important to say. It's like having a good reason before saying something in a discussion.

Some people feel arguing about things is the best way for them to learn, well it is common people will always think they are right , this is how discussion seems to be most time. But it is important newbie should try their best to make research to be sure if what they are talking about is wrong or correct because it is embarrassing claiming with confidence to say things that are wrong thinking it is right, newbies should learn to do research before coming to speak to the public.

Lol  That is quite true. I have myself come across few people on this forum who blindly get into a discussion and start arguing.
I don't even care to reply them but some times such debates also convert into a healthy discussion where one gets to learn a lot of things.
Whenever there was someone correcting me, I used to give it a thinking and reconsider my post and do a little research.
I would gladly accept his point if it was valid and there's no harm in doing that.

If a newbie corrects a higher-ranked member, it might become a matter of ego for the senior member as a person who is known to be senior is considered to have more knowledge and information about certain things and if they are corrected by a junior, they might not feel good about it as it becomes a matter of respect for them. However, if one makes a mistake or doesn't have more knowledge than a junior about a certain thing, there shouldn't be a problem for them to accept it.

That being said, I don't see why a newbie would start arguing if they are corrected by a senior or high-ranked member unless they have solid points that they know more than them and they can prove it using facts, but if that's not the case, they should first do more research and if they find out the other member is correct, they should stay silent and learn from it as you said.

I have witnessed alot of newbies correcting x members here and that is absolutely good because nobody is above mistakes right?, I have done that too.

But the fact that people do not surrender to others opinion/ point as a result of maintaining a seniority or reputation is what I'm tryna specifical dispute. Most times I read and I just laugh and remain silent because I figured out that if the conversation continues it would lead to something else.
I have also witnessed x members using valor languages on themselves because they both feel they are right and never to surrender and exist the conversation. Anyways we all got the right of freedom of speech.

I guess you understand my point correctly, I suppose they'll still have to learn this regardless of the forum statuses.

I have also noticed that some x members starts this personal attacks on this people at times, like when someone makes a mistake you turn it to be a personal attack or make your correction sound like a mockery. It's just disappointing. BTW, I love your advise here. I have grown thicker skin already.

I have also noticed that some x members starts this personal attacks on this people at times, like when someone makes a mistake you turn it to be a personal attack or make your correction sound like a mockery. It's just disappointing. BTW, I love your advise here. I have grown thicker skin already.

Your absolutely correct Dr. B.S. I also hope they learn too.

it depends on the reason behind your emphasizing a particular point in the argument, if you feel that the narrative or angle you're looking at a subject matter is not being understood rightly, you could still air out your view since no one is totally a compendium of knowledge. Their are things you will say whole thing to prove a point that could be of help to someone that's just going through the conversation.

The issue is when you're arguing just to prove that you have a knowledge, and you are not reading through replies to get a better understanding of what is being said, this is what could be considered a blind argument and doesn't get any problem solve. Remember the popular saying that goes that " that you won an argument doesn't mean you are right."

There are folks that can't stop themselves from arguing even if they can see that their boat is already sinking. It's all about the pride that they can't just let others stomp on together with their egos. You are on an online forum where the arguments are placed and expect that sets of differences are there. One can disagree or agree to any argument but make sure that you're not too harsh just because you are correct or you are trying to someone who's probably not aware of things that you're discussing and trying to argue. I know that there are people trying to make themselves good and correct even if they are out of argument, it's not painful to be corrected and correct someone. But when someone insists that they're totally correct but actually they're not and you're done with it, leave them alone.

OP, how then do we understand the meaning of the expression that “the truth is born in a dispute”? Is it a big deal when a newbie is trying to prove a point? We can look at it from a different point of view and think that this is how a person expresses himself. There is no need to shut the mouths of everyone who thinks differently; we adhere to democracy, which means everyone here has the right to express their opinion. Otherwise, we see frightened newcomers who are afraid to offer or say anything.
Let people make mistakes, try, and prove. The main thing is not to get personal; everything else in the discussion process is always interesting.

OP, you have said it all and I also believe that some people just like to argue because they don't like to be seen as if they are wrong. One thing I have come to understand in life is that when I am telling you the fact, and you are still arguing blindly, I will leave you alone and wouldn't want to explain at length anymore because it has shown that you don't want to accept others opinion.

Google is there to make research and get the right information on the discussion and that will enhance your learning instead of claiming Mr Right. It is better to listen and learn from others and if you are in a doubt about that topic do your own research to know more. Nobody is perfect and nobody knows it all, there are somethings that we feel we know but we don't know them in details.

No one is perfect, no one knows everything. When individuals are able to admit their mistakes, they are in a better position to improve and avoid repeating the same errors. Don't be afraid to admit when you don't know something and seek advice from others who may have more experience or knowledge in that area. I think the goal of being on a forum is to learn and engage with others, not to constantly prove yourself right. Being humble and open to learning from others can definitely benefit a lot over time. Having the courage and mindset to admit mistakes takes people forward in their personal and professional lives.