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Topic: A proposed sticky all about Activity and ranks (Read 399 times)

legendary
Activity: 2383
Merit: 1551
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February 24, 2018, 02:50:18 PM
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Bump. Any additions?
Mention about the possibility of merit decay if merit is received through unfair means or if the merit being hoarded?
Why not merge FAQ: Everything you need to know about forum 'activity' and ranks and Forum ranks/positions/badges (What do those shiny coins under my name mean?)? This would reduce the amount of stickies-> more possibility of newbies to read them seeing the lesser number of huge-ass threads.
copper member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 899
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Add, all merit sources should come out as source and let the community know who they are, we all know who DT members are, nobody is bothering them with trust begging, nobody would bother sources either, a link to source's distribution thread in this FAQ should be included.

Here is mine:   
Provide information and receive merits from the most reputable source.
I'm going to torture people before sending them any merit, since I'm not trusted with more than 5-8 sMerits, I will update my thread with a task and would include the same amount of sMerits available as the reward, if people ignore my task, I will spend my source merits on hero members, legendary or staff.
sr. member
Activity: 490
Merit: 256
I'm thinking about posting a FAQ sticky about everything you need to know about forum activity since we get half a dozen threads every day asking the same things like "how do I rank up" or "why is my activity stuck" etc.
This is pointless unless you instantly trash those threads on sight.

That's the plan. I should have said. I'm also going to propose to theymos that all new users who sign up here are greeted by a welcome message urging users to read the rules and provide them with links to this sticky amongst others so they don't need to ask these questions. There will be no excuse for ignorance then.
Let's just hope that they will really read it and not go scrolling to the bottom of the page and pressing the "Skip" button. Well if there would be a really  ignorant person that will sign up in the forum, I guess their tendency after reading such is that to post confirmation threads like "Does it really take that long for me to rank up?" and etc.

On the side note, I think that it would still be great to implement this FAQ you're talking about. It may lessen newbies that are frequently creating those topics.
full member
Activity: 1274
Merit: 106
Should  I include a FAQ section about merit within this seeing as the system is now directly tied in to ranks? Have there been many similar questions asked yet regarding merit or things that people are confused on? If there is post them here and I'll consider adding them.

One that I've seen pop up a few times is people asking whether sending merit comes out of their own earned points.

There was already a thread like this if I remember. The member starting that thread covered most of the questions there. I think that thread is now buried again among these infinite thread being creating everyday about merit system. Here is the link to that thread:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/vital-facts-and-figures-about-merit-point-systemanswers-to-your-queries-2820030
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Bump. Any additions?
legendary
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Merit: 3029
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Gonna add the following to the Activity FAQ. Is there any errors or anything I've missed that should be added:

What is Merit?

Merit is a new system created in order to reward quality contributions to the forum. Now to rise through ranks you will also need to acquire Merit in addition to Activity.

How do I receive merit?

You are awarded merit by people of the community if they find your post helpful or informative.

How do I send Merit?

There is a +Merit button at the top right of every post. To give merit click on it and follow the instructions.

What is the difference between Merit and sMerit?

There are two types of Merit. You cannot send your merits, just sMerit. For every Merit you receive you will have 0.5 spendable merit to give away as you please.

Can I ask for merit?

There is no need to do this and this behaviour is usually seen as 'merit begging' which is frowned upon by the community and may lead to you receiving negative feedback. Keep making quality, constructive posts and you will surely be rewarded over time.

Can I sell merit?

Selling merit is disallowed.

Can I give merit to my alt accounts?

Well you can, but this is frowned upon and will almost certainly lead to you receiving negative feedback if discovered.

Can I be demerited or lose merit?

No, not currently. Even if your post is removed the merit will still stay.

What is a merit source?

There are a certain number of special Merit sources who receive additional amounts of merit to give away.

How do I become a merit source?

As per theymos' instructions:

If you want to be a merit source:

 1. Be a somewhat established member.
 2. Collect TEN posts written in the last couple of months that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.
 3. We will take a look at your history and maybe make you a source.

Is there a limit on how many merits I can send?

Yes. You can give a max of 50 merit to a user every 30 days.

Merit stats: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats
copper member
Activity: 2562
Merit: 2504
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Not sure about the "double click" bug, but someone reported a similar outcome through refreshing the page (MERIT BUG).
Both bugs are because of the same principle. You're sending the same request twice. Clicking once = 1 request. Refreshing/clicking again = 2 requests.

It's similar to that of giving out trust (try clicking it twice) or double-clicking a report submit button.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 3406
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Should  I include a FAQ section about merit within this seeing as the system is now directly tied in to ranks?
Yes, but perhaps with the addition of the following table (only) + a link to "Vital Facts and Figures about Merit Point System.(Answers to your Queries)".

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

RankRequired activityRequired merit
Brand new00
Newbie10
Jr Member300
Member6010
Full Member120100
Sr. Member240250
Hero Member480500
LegendaryRandom in the range 775-10301000

If you have enough merit, and you give someone merit, and you double click, it gives it to them twice. I don't see that listed anywhere
Not sure about the "double click" bug, but someone reported a similar outcome through refreshing the page (MERIT BUG).
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Activity: 2254
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If you have enough merit, and you give someone merit, and you double click, it gives it to them twice. I don't see that listed anywhere
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 3029
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Should  I include a FAQ section about merit within this seeing as the system is now directly tied in to ranks? Have there been many similar questions asked yet regarding merit or things that people are confused on? If there is post them here and I'll consider adding them.

One that I've seen pop up a few times is people asking whether sending merit comes out of their own earned points.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
I'm quite curious - if there is a bug on the forum connected with deleted threads - may it somehow unlock your activity periods?

What exactly do you mean?

If a post gets deleted from a certain period, it shouldn't matter, since you will still have the potential activity for that period, thus shall the activity be rewarded for any other post.

( Unless ofcourse the deleted post is the only post you've made in that period, in which case your potential activity would decrease with 14. ( And depending on the posts you made your "real" activity might also decrease with more then 1?)
^ Someone with more knowledge then me might be able to eleborate/clear this up a bit more.



full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 100
I'm quite curious - if there is a bug on the forum connected with deleted threads - may it somehow unlock your activity periods?
staff
Activity: 3248
Merit: 4110
Considering the new PM limits haven't been stickied and are getting difficult for new members to find, you might want to consider adding this information to the thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.25872334 (Or some variation)

ActivityMax recipientsMax recipients if whitelistedMax PMs per hourMax PMs per hour if whitelistedMax PMs per dayMax PMs per day if whitelisted
02101402120
15310104015120
30510104030120
1007142080150600
25015301201203001200
500303012012012001200

You are automatically whitelisted if you buy a copper membership. You don't need to wear the copper membership, just own it. You can also be whitelisted for free by any staff member and a few non-staff, but we're going to need some reason to think that you actually deserve it. Do not ask me for free whitelisting.

Whitelisting is a not a license to spam. You will be immediately banned if you're found spamming, even if you bought a copper membership (and you will not be refunded).

I know you are trying to keep it as simple as possible and avoid information overload, but if you could tone down this information and incorporate it into the existing information then I think it would be beneficial to add it. Possibly add it to the activity timeline.
legendary
Activity: 3332
Merit: 6809
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That's the plan.
Love the idea and the sticky if that's the case.  What you've written is pretty comprehensive and should suffice for anyone with the "how do I achieve Jr. Member status" question--or anyone with even a semi-functioning prefrontal cortex who's actually interested in reading an answer.  Somehow I get the feeling that these morons just won't do the reading because they're way more interested in posting...but this is definitely progress.  Props, Hilariousandco.
the vast majority are just lazy idiot kids who can't be bothered searching for anything so they just ask.
This is basically what I've been thinking as well, and I can't imagine most of them can even read English for shit.
legendary
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There will be some of that no doubt, but I think the vast majority are just lazy idiot kids who can't be bothered searching for anything so they just ask. I mean, what better way to rank up their account and get an extra post in the process because reading certainly doesn't get you any where and they need everything explaining to them. If we have some sort of introduction/welcome post that has links to all the rules and commonly asked questions about activity and ranks etc then they really have no excuses. If they sign up and ask the same questions then that shows you that haven't read anything and their thread can go in the trash. If we want to be even harsher we could just nuke their account. Maybe people will learn to read the rules then.
Not all the users would read the sticky /article properly, as it'd waste of their time .

They will be forced to read it upon sign up. If they don't and break one of the golden rules they get banned.

How about implementing the idea of having a small questionnaire after the user proceeds reading the thread/s? If the users fail answering the questions, they'd be redirected yet again  to the sticky, and the process goes on and on like a cycle. And the questions should be shuffled every time a user enrolls for a better cause. Though the idea seems ridiculous but can it be helpful?

This will be difficult to implement and people will just google for the answers.

Add one more question :-
I have crossed the activity of 775,why am I not in legendary yet?
Answer: Because the activity for a user to become legendary differs from 750-1030.
People tend to ask this question too quite frequently.

That question and answer is already there.
sr. member
Activity: 467
Merit: 578
I think this is a good idea and needs to be done on a number of topics in other sub forums. For example technical support should have a sticky regarding low fees and a link to all free/paid accelerators to prevent people asking the same question over and over.
copper member
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1305
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I'm also going to propose to theymos that all new users who sign up here are greeted by a welcome message urging users to read the rules and provide them with links to this sticky amongst others so they don't need to ask these questions.
Seems a good idea. I agree with this together with the FAQ. But I'm sure half of them will ignore this message and still post shit.


Call me paranoid, but I have a strong feeling that a lot of newbie threads are just created by people who are trying to get in some extra posts easily by responding to an easily-answerable thread.
95% of those posts are. Mostly from newbie to jr member rank do this believing they will get more activity by posting more.
legendary
Activity: 2142
Merit: 1065
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Call me paranoid, but I have a strong feeling that a lot of newbie threads are just created by people who are trying to get in some extra posts easily by responding to an easily-answerable thread.

There will be some of that no doubt, but I think the vast majority are just lazy idiot kids who can't be bothered searching for anything so they just ask. I mean, what better way to rank up their account and get an extra post in the process because reading certainly doesn't get you any where and they need everything explaining to them. If we have some sort of introduction/welcome post that has links to all the rules and commonly asked questions about activity and ranks etc then they really have no excuses. If they sign up and ask the same questions then that shows you that haven't read anything and their thread can go in the trash. If we want to be even harsher we could just nuke their account. Maybe people will learn to read the rules then.

I was thinking about something well unrealistic tho.
Forcing newbies to read a sticky FAQ then to answer basic questions correctly. Once they succeed the basic test they can start making topics.
legendary
Activity: 2383
Merit: 1551
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There will be some of that no doubt, but I think the vast majority are just lazy idiot kids who can't be bothered searching for anything so they just ask. I mean, what better way to rank up their account and get an extra post in the process because reading certainly doesn't get you any where and they need everything explaining to them. If we have some sort of introduction/welcome post that has links to all the rules and commonly asked questions about activity and ranks etc then they really have no excuses. If they sign up and ask the same questions then that shows you that haven't read anything and their thread can go in the trash. If we want to be even harsher we could just nuke their account. Maybe people will learn to read the rules then.
Not all the users would read the sticky /article properly, as it'd waste of their time . How about implementing the idea of having a small questionnaire after the user proceeds reading the thread/s? If the users fail answering the questions, they'd be redirected yet again  to the sticky, and the process goes on and on like a cycle. And the questions should be shuffled every time a user enrolls for a better cause. Though the idea seems ridiculous but can it be helpful?
edit :-
Add one more question :-
I have crossed the activity of 775,why am I not in legendary yet?
Answer: Because the activity for a user to become legendary differs from 750-1030.
People tend to ask this question too quite frequently.
legendary
Activity: 2786
Merit: 3029
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Call me paranoid, but I have a strong feeling that a lot of newbie threads are just created by people who are trying to get in some extra posts easily by responding to an easily-answerable thread.

There will be some of that no doubt, but I think the vast majority are just lazy idiot kids who can't be bothered searching for anything so they just ask. I mean, what better way to rank up their account and get an extra post in the process because reading certainly doesn't get you any where and they need everything explaining to them. If we have some sort of introduction/welcome post that has links to all the rules and commonly asked questions about activity and ranks etc then they really have no excuses. If they sign up and ask the same questions then that shows you that haven't read anything and their thread can go in the trash. If we want to be even harsher we could just nuke their account. Maybe people will learn to read the rules then.
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