Topic: A4 Dominator, the 14nm LTC ASIC/Miners, in mass production, deliver in a week - page 5. (Read 9176 times)
May 22, 2016, 12:33:56 PM
Ha, I don't know why but I thought we were buying ASICs, I had just asked for info in the email, I was looking at getting like 200, I guess if they had though 200 complete miners been right on it.
May 22, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
Yeah I sent them an email just to see if I'd get a reply. They got right back to me and asked 'how many'
I said TWO (should have said 20 duh just to get some replies) and they have ignored my other 2 emails since
too small fry ..they are chasing IPO and big miner $$$ without a lot of success imho
BUT they make other chips..not just asic's for ltc or btc...THUS the IPO $$$ was for making 14nm chips
if they DO get IPO $$ it is a win/win/win for them in
1) investors paid for 14nm equipment needed to make these scrypt miners and such equip can be used to make other 14nm chips by their firm (non-crypto)
2) they can build their data hall first using the above equipment and a much lower cost per chip and cost to mine them as a data hall
3) the 2 things above 'if successful' would be something to point to to get a) more IPO $$ or b) pursue 'bulk sales' of these 14nm chips to other data halls for equip
So my 'guess' is the A4 Dominator will be a limited run in that why sell a bunch and water down the $$$ made by your data hall miner operation with a lot of home miner users
they will make a few to show stuff exists (like sfards) but the main thrust imho if I am right was the expansion of equipment needed for their biz of 14nm chips
and their own data hall mining such (and no one else) till such point they go to bulk chip sales and move on..probably months later
I'm betting also the A4 Dominators or the relatively 'few' that will be available for 'pre-order' will run about $4k at the least...
we will see how close i am
supposedly this A4 Dominator is supposed to hit the 'world' in July 2016....looking a lot like butterfly labs vaporware at this point ....at least to the 'masses'
Interesting approach, I said I wanted ONE in my e-mail that was sent within minutes after my post, I still haven't got a reply.
Guess this is another confirmation of who they are after.
the first email I asked if i could get miners....they came back and said how many...i said 2 (should have said 20 to keep it going) last email I got
so yeah...you saying 1 right off..does seem to be the view "go away small fishy..we only want whales"
May 22, 2016, 09:01:41 AM
They have some basic specs out on the chip, very little available on the miner itself yet.
Why worry about cgminer, the A2 Terminator units were self-contained and from what I've seen the A4 is also self-contained (possibly might be "add power supply" like the Farm Boys") and appears to be based on the A2 design.
I guess I was just wondering if I bought some ASICs how would I make them work, I can build boards and design hardware, I am sure the A4 miners will be a good to go item but , at least me when I am thinking about designing something from the ground up having a little more info.Why worry about cgminer, the A2 Terminator units were self-contained and from what I've seen the A4 is also self-contained (possibly might be "add power supply" like the Farm Boys") and appears to be based on the A2 design.
I didnt get a reply either to me email... go figure
May 22, 2016, 08:51:14 AM
Yeah I sent them an email just to see if I'd get a reply. They got right back to me and asked 'how many'
I said TWO (should have said 20 duh just to get some replies) and they have ignored my other 2 emails since
too small fry ..they are chasing IPO and big miner $$$ without a lot of success imho
BUT they make other chips..not just asic's for ltc or btc...THUS the IPO $$$ was for making 14nm chips
if they DO get IPO $$ it is a win/win/win for them in
1) investors paid for 14nm equipment needed to make these scrypt miners and such equip can be used to make other 14nm chips by their firm (non-crypto)
2) they can build their data hall first using the above equipment and a much lower cost per chip and cost to mine them as a data hall
3) the 2 things above 'if successful' would be something to point to to get a) more IPO $$ or b) pursue 'bulk sales' of these 14nm chips to other data halls for equip
So my 'guess' is the A4 Dominator will be a limited run in that why sell a bunch and water down the $$$ made by your data hall miner operation with a lot of home miner users
they will make a few to show stuff exists (like sfards) but the main thrust imho if I am right was the expansion of equipment needed for their biz of 14nm chips
and their own data hall mining such (and no one else) till such point they go to bulk chip sales and move on..probably months later
I'm betting also the A4 Dominators or the relatively 'few' that will be available for 'pre-order' will run about $4k at the least...
we will see how close i am
supposedly this A4 Dominator is supposed to hit the 'world' in July 2016....looking a lot like butterfly labs vaporware at this point ....at least to the 'masses'
Interesting approach, I said I wanted ONE in my e-mail that was sent within minutes after my post, I still haven't got a reply.
Guess this is another confirmation of who they are after.
May 22, 2016, 04:41:24 AM
Yeah I sent them an email just to see if I'd get a reply. They got right back to me and asked 'how many'
I said TWO (should have said 20 duh just to get some replies) and they have ignored my other 2 emails since
too small fry ..they are chasing IPO and big miner $$$ without a lot of success imho
BUT they make other chips..not just asic's for ltc or btc...THUS the IPO $$$ was for making 14nm chips
if they DO get IPO $$ it is a win/win/win for them in
1) investors paid for 14nm equipment needed to make these scrypt miners and such equip can be used to make other 14nm chips by their firm (non-crypto)
2) they can build their data hall first using the above equipment and a much lower cost per chip and cost to mine them as a data hall
3) the 2 things above 'if successful' would be something to point to to get a) more IPO $$ or b) pursue 'bulk sales' of these 14nm chips to other data halls for equip
So my 'guess' is the A4 Dominator will be a limited run in that why sell a bunch and water down the $$$ made by your data hall miner operation with a lot of home miner users
they will make a few to show stuff exists (like sfards) but the main thrust imho if I am right was the expansion of equipment needed for their biz of 14nm chips
and their own data hall mining such (and no one else) till such point they go to bulk chip sales and move on..probably months later
I'm betting also the A4 Dominators or the relatively 'few' that will be available for 'pre-order' will run about $4k at the least...
we will see how close i am
supposedly this A4 Dominator is supposed to hit the 'world' in July 2016....looking a lot like butterfly labs vaporware at this point ....at least to the 'masses'
May 22, 2016, 02:27:11 AM
They have some basic specs out on the chip, very little available on the miner itself yet.
Why worry about cgminer, the A2 Terminator units were self-contained and from what I've seen the A4 is also self-contained (possibly might be "add power supply" like the Farm Boys") and appears to be based on the A2 design.
Titans should continue to be profitable for a while - and if you own a Titan and it's not achieved ROI by now, you're in trouble anyway or it was one of the many that had cores die young.
Probability of an Ethereum ASIC is basically ZERO - by the time someone could get one designed and into production, ETH will probably have gone POS or will only have a VERY FEW MONTHS left before it does go POS leaving way too short a time to achieve ROI on an ETH ASIC miner.
Why worry about cgminer, the A2 Terminator units were self-contained and from what I've seen the A4 is also self-contained (possibly might be "add power supply" like the Farm Boys") and appears to be based on the A2 design.
Titans should continue to be profitable for a while - and if you own a Titan and it's not achieved ROI by now, you're in trouble anyway or it was one of the many that had cores die young.
Probability of an Ethereum ASIC is basically ZERO - by the time someone could get one designed and into production, ETH will probably have gone POS or will only have a VERY FEW MONTHS left before it does go POS leaving way too short a time to achieve ROI on an ETH ASIC miner.
May 21, 2016, 10:57:17 PM
I sent an email but this is really an odd way to sell something, maybe I missed it but was there a data sheet out? use the same software? just interface it and go with the old cgminer. At $12 a chip if I didn't have to buy 10k of them would be cool, just when I started working on a way to software control the voltage on the A2 boards.
May 21, 2016, 09:18:21 AM
I have sent an email, I am interested.
Wonder what this means for KNC Titan owners this is a little sooner than I expected
Wonder what this means for KNC Titan owners this is a little sooner than I expected
May 21, 2016, 03:50:28 AM
How are we suppposed to give a pre-order quantity when we have ZERO CLUE what the price is on the miners?
This is TOTALLY BACKWARDS.
This is TOTALLY BACKWARDS.
May 20, 2016, 09:29:30 AM
Not so exciting for most people. Litecoin mining is not very popular as the price is not going higher. If they produce a Ethereum chip, more people will be interested.
May 20, 2016, 09:23:09 AM
What is the minimum order quantity?
May 20, 2016, 08:36:15 AM
Using information found here http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/13.html
This breaks down to somewhere between 115 to 143 chips in an A4.
At $12 per chip the effective estimated price range is $1380 to $1716 depending on whether or not its 400MH or 500MH.
Hope that's accurate because if it is, super exciting news.
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A4 Dominator ASIC & Miner Specifications:
A4 Miner: 400Mhs per 1KW power supply in one standard miner box
A4 ASIC: 3.5Mhs per chip performance at 2.5W/MHs nominal, see tables below on modes
Extreme Low Power: ASIC with large memory running at single rail 0.6V
One Start and New PCB: eliminate the need of DC-DC components and enable 14 to 20 A4 chips running off the single 12V DC supply
PSU Requirements: common PCI-E 8Pins/6+2Pins with 12V output
Included: Raspberry Pi running the most user friendly A2 terminator Software
Server Grid Reliability: Built-in high-procession temperature sensor for automatic chip protection and variable frequency operation to maximize chip life time
A4 Miner: 400Mhs per 1KW power supply in one standard miner box
A4 ASIC: 3.5Mhs per chip performance at 2.5W/MHs nominal, see tables below on modes
Extreme Low Power: ASIC with large memory running at single rail 0.6V
One Start and New PCB: eliminate the need of DC-DC components and enable 14 to 20 A4 chips running off the single 12V DC supply
PSU Requirements: common PCI-E 8Pins/6+2Pins with 12V output
Included: Raspberry Pi running the most user friendly A2 terminator Software
Server Grid Reliability: Built-in high-procession temperature sensor for automatic chip protection and variable frequency operation to maximize chip life time
This breaks down to somewhere between 115 to 143 chips in an A4.
At $12 per chip the effective estimated price range is $1380 to $1716 depending on whether or not its 400MH or 500MH.
Hope that's accurate because if it is, super exciting news.
May 20, 2016, 08:08:10 AM
A4 Dominator, the 14nm LTC ASIC/Miners, sample tested and open for pre-order
Innosilicon, the global leader in Bitcoin and Litecoin ASIC solutions, proudly announces that the world 1st 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC has passed sample test and is ready for mass shipment in 2 months.
With more than quadruple the power efficiency over the previous generation, A4 ASIC offers up to 4Mhs per chip LTC hash power with as low as 1.5W/MHs power consumption. This will allow for next gen A4 based scrypt miners reaching 400MHs to 500Mhs hash power per box. This performance puts A4 product head and shoulder above other miners as the most profitable mining server in the world. Nothing can touch the well-crafted A4 Dominator performance in the next 2 years! A4 ASIC/Miners are ready for pre-order now and shipping starts in July 2016.
A4 Dominator is a full custom optimized for power & reliability in the world’s most advanced 14nm process, with tremendously proven advantage over any 28nm nodes. In addition, newly added system reliability features that allow for maximized performance under any condition, such as automatic temperature and frequency control, as well as DCDC-less automatic on-board chip pass/fail self-test, maximize system performance and avoid heat damage.
The A4 Dominator ASIC, priced at discounted $12 per chip for early birds, will continue the fantastic A2 Terminator legacy in serving our mining community. With the unbeatable price and performance, A4 Dominator ASIC/Miner will revolutionize how we mine coins for the years to come.
To order: please contact us via email account: [email protected], [email protected] CC: [email protected] with your pre-order volume and shipment location info, we will feedback you with the pre-order price, payment instruction, and pre-order confirmation. You can also contact our technical support via Skype: inno.miner for tracking. Due to limited supply of first batch, it will be offered at 1st come, 1st served pre-ordered approach. Shipping and handling is extra and user will be encouraged to arrange its own pickup/shipping or being charged based on DHL rate if shipping is handled by Innosilicon.
Innosilicon Marketing
I'm interested, sent an e-mail, confused on the actual price due to difference in range.
May 20, 2016, 08:02:38 AM
Update on Oct 25th, 2016:
Good news! As promised, A4 LTC miners are in mass production now. Innosilicon starts shipping since Oct 14th based on order sequence. Customer review should hit this forum soon. Folks, stay tuned!
If you order now, we promise delivery within 7 days after payment confirmation.
For those already paid, your orders are being processed, you will get it within a month.
For those who like to place orders for future delivery priority, contact us at [email protected] and [email protected] or Skype: inno.miner for tracking.
Below are photos of our brand new machines for your reference.
Fraud Alert:
This is to announce that Innosilicon do NOT have a reseller called “Yang Rongdai”.
https://www.asicminermarket.com/
Skype：yangrongdai
Facebook: Simon Yang
Any sales info from him is a fraud.
Recently we have found faked reseller claiming to sell A4 product online. Please note that the only authorized reseller is Innosilicon itself.
If you want any sales info verified, you can go to our website. Without that correct Innosilicon email address, you take your own risk.
We do NOT have any so-called reseller globally.
Do NOT send money other than Innosilicon account.
-------------------------
Update on Oct 11th, 2016:
We've just updated our official webpages of A4 LTC Miners, with the freshly cooked video of our products.
Please go to http://www.innosilicon.com/html/mining-asic/14.html
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/mining-asic/15.html for your reference.
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Update on July 1st, 2016:
World Most Profitable A4 Dominator Miner is coming soon! Early batch goes fast with best efficiency ever and very limited quantity, and who are the lucky ones to get the access to the first batch will, with no doubt, enjoy the early gain before anybody else, that means big profit.
Pre-order price: 1800 USD per unit plus shipping fee, 5 units to start
Estimated delivery time: Starts from August and max delay is one month.
Warrantee: 45 days parts warranty
Specifications:
For interested parties, please contact us via email account: [email protected], [email protected] CC: [email protected] with your pre-order volume and shipment location info, we will feedback you with the payment instruction and pre-order confirmation. You can also contact our technical support via Skype: inno.miner for tracking. Due to limited supply of first batch, it will be offered at 1st come, 1st served pre-order approach. Shipping and handling is extra and user will be encouraged to arrange its own pickup/shipping or being charged based on DHL rate if shipping is handled by Innosilicon.
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Innosilicon, the global leader in Bitcoin and Litecoin ASIC solutions, proudly announces that the world 1st 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC has passed sample test and is ready for mass shipment in 2 months.
With more than quadruple the power efficiency over the previous generation, A4 ASIC offers up to 4Mhs per chip LTC hash power with as low as 1.5W/MHs power consumption. This will allow for next gen A4 based scrypt miners reaching 400MHs to 500Mhs hash power per box. This performance puts A4 product head and shoulder above other miners as the most profitable mining server in the world. Nothing can touch the well-crafted A4 Dominator performance in the next 2 years! A4 ASIC/Miners are ready for pre-order now and shipping starts in July 2016.
A4 Dominator is a full custom optimized for power & reliability in the world’s most advanced 14nm process, with tremendously proven advantage over any 28nm nodes. In addition, newly added system reliability features that allow for maximized performance under any condition, such as automatic temperature and frequency control, as well as DCDC-less automatic on-board chip pass/fail self-test, maximize system performance and avoid heat damage.
The A4 Dominator ASIC, priced at discounted $12 per chip for early birds, will continue the fantastic A2 Terminator legacy in serving our mining community. With the unbeatable price and performance, A4 Dominator ASIC/Miner will revolutionize how we mine coins for the years to come.
To order: please contact us via email account: [email protected], [email protected] CC: [email protected] with your pre-order volume and shipment location info, we will feedback you with the pre-order price, payment instruction, and pre-order confirmation. You can also contact our technical support via Skype: inno.miner for tracking. Due to limited supply of first batch, it will be offered at 1st come, 1st served pre-ordered approach. Shipping and handling is extra and user will be encouraged to arrange its own pickup/shipping or being charged based on DHL rate if shipping is handled by Innosilicon.
Innosilicon Marketing
Good news! As promised, A4 LTC miners are in mass production now. Innosilicon starts shipping since Oct 14th based on order sequence. Customer review should hit this forum soon. Folks, stay tuned!
If you order now, we promise delivery within 7 days after payment confirmation.
For those already paid, your orders are being processed, you will get it within a month.
For those who like to place orders for future delivery priority, contact us at [email protected] and [email protected] or Skype: inno.miner for tracking.
Below are photos of our brand new machines for your reference.
Fraud Alert:
This is to announce that Innosilicon do NOT have a reseller called “Yang Rongdai”.
https://www.asicminermarket.com/
Skype：yangrongdai
Facebook: Simon Yang
Any sales info from him is a fraud.
Recently we have found faked reseller claiming to sell A4 product online. Please note that the only authorized reseller is Innosilicon itself.
If you want any sales info verified, you can go to our website. Without that correct Innosilicon email address, you take your own risk.
We do NOT have any so-called reseller globally.
Do NOT send money other than Innosilicon account.
-------------------------
Update on Oct 11th, 2016:
We've just updated our official webpages of A4 LTC Miners, with the freshly cooked video of our products.
Please go to http://www.innosilicon.com/html/mining-asic/14.html
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/mining-asic/15.html for your reference.
------------------------
Update on July 1st, 2016:
World Most Profitable A4 Dominator Miner is coming soon! Early batch goes fast with best efficiency ever and very limited quantity, and who are the lucky ones to get the access to the first batch will, with no doubt, enjoy the early gain before anybody else, that means big profit.
Pre-order price: 1800 USD per unit plus shipping fee, 5 units to start
Estimated delivery time: Starts from August and max delay is one month.
Warrantee: 45 days parts warranty
Specifications:
- Part Number: INNOSILICON A4 Dominator 280Mhs per unit (+-10% performance, can be over-clocked at user's risk)
- Size: Length 28cm * Width 12.8cm * Height 25cm
- Net weight: 11KG (without PSU)
- ASIC: A4, 80pcs
- Blade: 4pcs
- Voltage: +12V
- Power efficiency: Initial batch will be defaulted at 3.2W/Mhs in Turbo mode, 2.2W/Mhs in Norminal mode, and 1.35W/Mhs in ultra low power mode
- Required rated PSU: 1000W or above, 8 * PCI-E 6Pin
PSU is external and exclusive to save your international shipping cost, which can be acquired used easily at low cost or reused from old version miners. - Included: Raspberry Pi, it is plug and play with your PSU
For interested parties, please contact us via email account: [email protected], [email protected] CC: [email protected] with your pre-order volume and shipment location info, we will feedback you with the payment instruction and pre-order confirmation. You can also contact our technical support via Skype: inno.miner for tracking. Due to limited supply of first batch, it will be offered at 1st come, 1st served pre-order approach. Shipping and handling is extra and user will be encouraged to arrange its own pickup/shipping or being charged based on DHL rate if shipping is handled by Innosilicon.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
A4 Dominator, the 14nm LTC ASIC/Miners, sample tested and open for pre-order
Innosilicon, the global leader in Bitcoin and Litecoin ASIC solutions, proudly announces that the world 1st 14nm A4 Dominator ASIC has passed sample test and is ready for mass shipment in 2 months.
With more than quadruple the power efficiency over the previous generation, A4 ASIC offers up to 4Mhs per chip LTC hash power with as low as 1.5W/MHs power consumption. This will allow for next gen A4 based scrypt miners reaching 400MHs to 500Mhs hash power per box. This performance puts A4 product head and shoulder above other miners as the most profitable mining server in the world. Nothing can touch the well-crafted A4 Dominator performance in the next 2 years! A4 ASIC/Miners are ready for pre-order now and shipping starts in July 2016.
A4 Dominator is a full custom optimized for power & reliability in the world’s most advanced 14nm process, with tremendously proven advantage over any 28nm nodes. In addition, newly added system reliability features that allow for maximized performance under any condition, such as automatic temperature and frequency control, as well as DCDC-less automatic on-board chip pass/fail self-test, maximize system performance and avoid heat damage.
The A4 Dominator ASIC, priced at discounted $12 per chip for early birds, will continue the fantastic A2 Terminator legacy in serving our mining community. With the unbeatable price and performance, A4 Dominator ASIC/Miner will revolutionize how we mine coins for the years to come.
To order: please contact us via email account: [email protected], [email protected] CC: [email protected] with your pre-order volume and shipment location info, we will feedback you with the pre-order price, payment instruction, and pre-order confirmation. You can also contact our technical support via Skype: inno.miner for tracking. Due to limited supply of first batch, it will be offered at 1st come, 1st served pre-ordered approach. Shipping and handling is extra and user will be encouraged to arrange its own pickup/shipping or being charged based on DHL rate if shipping is handled by Innosilicon.
Innosilicon Marketing
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