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October 22, 2022, 06:29:44 PM
#52
Excuse me but I'm on my phone again and could only take screenshots. 1xbit's spammers are on it again, making irrelevant one liner posts which all look alike. I wouldn't be surprised if they were all created by the same person, using alt accounts. After all, 1xbit accepts all kind of users. Not sure if they were edited out, but the majority of latest posts in the Economy section are made by these spammers.





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October 15, 2022, 10:21:47 PM
#51
I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.

now the account you warned about the reputation of 1xbit re-registers the campaign and wears the 1xbit signature.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/open-restart-of-1xbit-signature-campaign-new-signatures-and-more-spots-5367666

Now I doubt he doesn't know what the consequences will be if he signed up for the 1xbit campaign as you warned. will you remind him a second time?

it seems that many people have a dark eye for money. it doesn't matter if he joins the campaign or not. after he was warned he did not heed the warning. I think the account supports casino scams. worth tagging.

Some people know that they will be tagged but they still try to join this 1xbit campaign as they are not being accepted else where. They think that some bucks are better than no bucks at all. They only think short term as in the long term if he/she keeps posting, ranks up and may get in some better campaign.
But if they apply or join 1xbit they will just ruin their account forever and also promoting a scam is doing a scam itself. There is no cure for greediness  Huh
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October 13, 2022, 01:49:10 AM
#50
I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.

now the account you warned about the reputation of 1xbit re-registers the campaign and wears the 1xbit signature.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/open-restart-of-1xbit-signature-campaign-new-signatures-and-more-spots-5367666

Now I doubt he doesn't know what the consequences will be if he signed up for the 1xbit campaign as you warned. will you remind him a second time?

it seems that many people have a dark eye for money. it doesn't matter if he joins the campaign or not. after he was warned he did not heed the warning. I think the account supports casino scams. worth tagging.
hero member
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October 10, 2022, 10:19:10 PM
#49
Is there any point in reporting their posts? By the time a moderator reviews it, it will have already been edited and filled in. Usually, it's within the 10-minute time frame, and it's not even shown as edited. Do moderators or administrators have access to see the initial post? Does Ninjastic.space, for instance, keep track of such posts? If the answer to at least one of the previous questions is yes, then I'll be on the lookout for any blank posts left to be edited in the future. Otherwise, it's no use.

The only positive thing regarding 1xbit is that they don't have an abundance of participants. Imagine them having up to 100 users. Most, if not all, of their users are suspicious, accused of multiaccounting or using traded accounts or involved in scams. It's disappointing.

suppose editing is done in a short time. I guess it doesn't matter. what happens in the case of 1xbit signature campaign participants are edits made 1 day after the post-marking is made. it's just to chase post quotas to get rewards.

other users in the 1xbit campaign did the same. either by coincidence or indeed they are the same person.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sovie-328196

proof from  Ninjastic.space
https://ninjastic.space/post/60664453
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624614
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624613
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624603
https://ninjastic.space/post/60624601



if you search for more accounts in that campaign, more accounts may have a habit of tagging posts like that.
I'm not saying that's solid evidence to accuse them of being multiple accounts. but, everything looks the same.
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October 10, 2022, 05:20:59 PM
#48

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.
they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.
Some of the users joining 1xbit had gotten negative trust in the past I believe. Those users probably thought their accounts were trash at the time, but then here comes 1xbit allowing neg rep users. Now those neg repped accounts have a purpose.

The fact that 1xbit allows neg accounts says alot about the site.

If any of you notice people editing their posts later, make sure you are reporting their posts. You might also take screenshots of before and after for more proof.
Is there any point in reporting their posts? By the time a moderator reviews it, it will have already been edited and filled in. Usually, it's within the 10-minute time frame, and it's not even shown as edited. Do moderators or administrators have access to see the initial post? Does Ninjastic.space, for instance, keep track of such posts? If the answer to at least one of the previous questions is yes, then I'll be on the lookout for any blank posts left to be edited in the future. Otherwise, it's no use.

The only positive thing regarding 1xbit is that they don't have an abundance of participants. Imagine them having up to 100 users. Most, if not all, of their users are suspicious, accused of multiaccounting or using traded accounts or involved in scams. It's disappointing.
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October 09, 2022, 11:53:00 PM
#47
That's not the case, most if not all of their participants knew what they were getting themselves into. They don't care if they've received negative trust. As you've also mentioned yourself, chances are that most of them are alt accounts of other members, bought accounts or simple spammers who had zero chances or entering a decent campaign.

Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.
I once reminded someone who applied for the 1xbit signature campaign. I don't think the owner of the account knows more about the reputation of the 1xbit campaign and the effect it will have on promoting the campaign. Due to their ignorance, I think it is necessary to be reminded to remove the signature code before the account owner is marked.



In contrast to accounts that ignore reputation in favor of getting paid weekly by promoting such campaigns. Most likely they have more than one BTT account.
legendary
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October 09, 2022, 04:08:32 PM
#46

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.
they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.
Some of the users joining 1xbit had gotten negative trust in the past I believe. Those users probably thought their accounts were trash at the time, but then here comes 1xbit allowing neg rep users. Now those neg repped accounts have a purpose.

The fact that 1xbit allows neg accounts says alot about the site.

If any of you notice people editing their posts later, make sure you are reporting their posts. You might also take screenshots of before and after for more proof.
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October 09, 2022, 03:49:57 PM
#45
Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.
Am sure most of them think they don't have anything to lose, but they are losing their reputation, how will I wake up everyday and I keep on seeing negative trust in my account, how will they feel when they know that  they are putting peoples funds at risk just because of the little amount they are being paid for marketing for scam project, if anybody is been scammed then I will have to blame people marketing for them for that, so people might be new to the forum and they don't know about the trust system, they might just see someone wearing the signature code and they will decide to try it out, at the end they will get scammed.
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October 09, 2022, 02:57:47 AM
#44

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.
they don't care because the account they use to participate in the scam campaign is not their main account. or their previous primary account which they later switched to another account due to negative tagging.

those who realized had to withdraw their POA when warned by other members. but mostly I think they already know the condition of the casino. they intentionally sign up to join a fraudulent campaign, no matter the reputation of their account.

for friends who are active on the gambling board, it might be better if they are willing to report shitposts on the board. Campaign participants made several posts on gambling boards.
hero member
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October 08, 2022, 04:22:20 PM
#43
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns.
People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.
That's not the case, most if not all of their participants knew what they were getting themselves into. They don't care if they've received negative trust. As you've also mentioned yourself, chances are that most of them are alt accounts of other members, bought accounts or simple spammers who had zero chances or entering a decent campaign.

Thus, these members have nothing to lose. Those with more than two brain cells withdrew their application after being warned by DT higher members about 1xbit.
legendary
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October 08, 2022, 01:36:36 PM
#42
People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.
Nobody cares even when you can convince people that some of the accounts promoting the casino are alt. The reputation of the participants has become bad even most of them are accounts that have been tagged for various reasons, account sales or so on. Most of them I've tagged, but there's no way to stop them from using that signature unless the forum ban it.

Until now this campaign is not banned, whatever the reason. But I believe some participants of this campaign have been banned regardless of whether they are spammers or plagiarists.
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October 07, 2022, 06:31:02 PM
#41
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns.
People promoting 1xbit's also have enough negative trust, am sure no reputable manager will accept them in any of their campaign, but I think some of those people participating in 1xbit are having alts account which they are using in participating in other good campaigns and they are making good posts with the account, I just think they are spamming because the campaign have been tagged as scam campaign and the manager those not care, I think users participating in signature campaign deserves more than negative trust, all of them should be banned, because their post is of no use to the forum.
They will not care about this report because they have nothing to lose already there account has been red tag already for various unwanted activities watching those guys nor giving to much attention on what they do is useless. People like them will not care if they promote a good platform or even do the right thing because all they care is the money they can earn from shady platform they promote.
The two accounts are having more than 5 negative trust, they already know that their account is useless already, so even if you add more negative trust is of no use, they will continue spamming, the only thing that can happen that will affect them is if their account is ban, atleast they won't be able to receive the penny they are receiving for the signature campaign they are spamming for.
legendary
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October 07, 2022, 11:05:14 AM
#40
1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.

What can we expect from the scamming campaign participants? They use everything which will make their posts count quota complete and does not care for anything, not even their own campaign

Unfortunately, there are no rules to this in the forum, but all the things do not need the rules. Somethings are to be done morally but again these people don't care.
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October 06, 2022, 10:08:24 PM
#39
1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

maybe the account taking part in the 1xbit campaign comes from a trading account. there will be a consideration when they buy a negative trust account at a lower price. and to join the 1xbit campaign, within a few weeks may already return the capital used to buy the account. so even if their account will be permanently stigmatized, it won't have much of an impact on them.

I'm not sure this is true, but, most likely, the two accounts you mentioned are also trading accounts.
there's nothing more to pay attention to from the campaign participants in my opinion. if you see them making shit posts. we can report moderators. I think that's the best we can do.
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October 06, 2022, 07:07:13 PM
#38
Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.

They will not care about this report because they have nothing to lose already there account has been red tag already for various unwanted activities watching those guys nor giving to much attention on what they do is useless. People like them will not care if they promote a good platform or even do the right thing because all they care is the money they can earn from shady platform they promote.
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October 06, 2022, 06:17:12 PM
#37
Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.
It's understandable. Most, if not all, of 1xbit's participants had extremely slim chances of joining a decent campaign. The majority of them are spammers, lack basic English knowledge and/or have negative trust, which immediately blocks them from even applying to most campaigns. On the one hand, I don't blame them; they wouldn't manage to participate in any other event. On the other hand, they're taking the easy way out instead of spending more time around the forum getting to know each other better and improving their post quality, which could potentially lead to having a steady source of income through the forum for years to come. 1xbit's campaign probably won't stick around forever. Their account will be permanently stigmatized though.
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October 06, 2022, 03:01:17 AM
#36
Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site
There would be a lot more people if the community wouldn't tag the account for participating in such a shady campaign. In fact, most of the signature campaign participants who post here for the sake of having an income would participate; thank theymos for the forum trust system though I doubt it's working. Nevertheless, it's an internet forum; nothing to get disappointed about. There are more craps here than you can imagine of.
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October 05, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
#35
After seeing the post I was curious to see their profile, immediately I clicked on the first link I saw the user wearing 1xbit signature, I clicked on second link and I noticed the user was wearing the same signature campaign. Am just disappointed that people still market for the project even as we all know that they are scam gambling site, the two accounts might be operated by one person, but even if they are tag as shit posters, it those not have any effect because they are already having enough negative trust, I just think it's better we protect our name, some of us might think it's just a nickname and they don't care, but the name you use here is what all of us knows you as, so I believe that's your name. That's why I think we shouldn't spoil out reputation just because of money.
legendary
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October 05, 2022, 06:56:45 AM
#34
So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.
I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.

there is no accurate record of how many members participated in the Yobit campaign, because they managed that part, and they never announced it.
I know yahoo62278 was in charge of banning spammers from the campaign, and according to this thread, as far as I counted, 535 accounts were banned from that campaign. It doesn't matter if it's because of spam or a bad reputation.
Plus warned members and those who were within the limits of what is allowed on the forum. I would say that it was the biggest spam attack on the forum.
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October 04, 2022, 04:21:17 PM
#33
I don't know if it's from my side but I like to report that the picture clarity shared by OP is blunt. I guess that's from the device used in taking the pictures or from the angle they were taken. Anyway, that's besides the issue. I observed that abuse as reported and that's very horrible to say the least. The best way to tackle such edit abuse would've been to report the user to the manager of the campaign they're in. That's if they're in a signature campaign at the time of the crime. It's not even as if they won't be in a campaign to do such. Those who aren't won't feel the rush to meet up weekly quota. Managers of BTC paying signature campaigns will care to take the matter up and scrutinize the user. I know it's a different ball game for bounty campaigns where anything goes and most bounty mangers don't even care to check their hunters. In the case of bounties, the user should be reported to mods.
They are screenshots from my phone. They can even be zoomed in if you click on each photo individually. I didn't have the time frame to turn on my computer in order to get decent print screens from there. Chances are that some of his posts would have already been edited out by then.
When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.
So the situation's fucked no matter what anyone in the community does. 

Someone refresh my memory: Why did Theymos nuke the entire Yobit campaign the second time around?  Was it just because they had no maximum as far as how many members could join, or was it something else?  I distinctly remember the quality of the forum dropping precipitously right after Yobit launched that campaign, and I'm kind of wondering why 1xbit is being allowed to erode that quality due to their lousy campaign management and/or policies.
I don't know about Yobit's campaign; either I wasn't active back then or I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, 1xbit is consisted of 38 participants, certainly not an insignificant number. Roobet, for instance, has 60 members, which is one of the largest and most established campaigns. Most of 1xbit's participants feature terrible post quality, with only a few of them being average enough. The forum isn't filled with their spam posts, but there's a decent amount stemming from them.
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