Abuse of Edit function to reach quota - page 3.

Ultegra134

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Quote from: DaveF on August 31, 2022, 07:21:49 AM

This has been discussed many times in the past, even had a discussion about it in meta a month ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spam-reserved-post-edit-later-to-hit-post-quota-is-back-5407593
Report them and move on.

I keep saying it, but the campaigns that put up with this are crap and don't care. So in the end they are crap posts from crap posters who are supporting crap scams.

If those people get banned an entire new crop of crap posters show up.

-Dave

In my opinion, it's not the user's fault in this case. 1xbit is providing a loophole for spammers and abusers to take advantage of. No other campaign would want to pay such posters, if 1xbit's campaign didn't exist or was prohibited on the forum, we wouldn't see so many abusers. Reporting them individually probably won't do much, moderators may not be present when the post is made and by the time they investigate them, the posts will already be edited and filled in.

As long as 1xbit continues paying its participants, we'll see examples like these.

Pandu Geddon

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looks like all we can do is report user posts to moderators. see both accounts are on campaigns that don't mind this. don't bother telling the campaign manager. they will think this is useless.
perhaps the case will be different when the two accounts are part of the campaign of a manager who does have a good reputation. such as similar cases that have been published previously.

so all members who might be more concerned about this can make a report when they see an account with this kind of behavior. it will help the forum look cleaner.

DaveF

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This has been discussed many times in the past, even had a discussion about it in meta a month ago: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spam-reserved-post-edit-later-to-hit-post-quota-is-back-5407593
Report them and move on.

I keep saying it, but the campaigns that put up with this are crap and don't care. So in the end they are crap posts from crap posters who are supporting crap scams.

If those people get banned an entire new crop of crap posters show up.

-Dave

Findingnemo

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Quote from: RapTarX on August 30, 2022, 05:38:05 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on August 30, 2022, 05:29:30 PM

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

If some user get mass report against them then mods will actually take a look at their post history and delete their post for spam and low quality which also may comes with temp ban for weeks or 30 days so enough reports are needed against a user in these kind of situations.

Jatiluhung

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actually the one who did this was not only the two users you mentioned above. but there are still other users. I still remember a few days ago when I was reading a thread on an economics board I found a lot of empty reply posts. but a few hours later the blank reply was edited and filled with a normal reply. But if I find it again then I report it to the moderators as spam. I guess that's enough. because as long as I report a spam post, the moderators always move quickly to delete it. sometimes even less than an hour. so that this step becomes effective. so that the spammer can't find the post to edit again because the post has been deleted by the moderator.
simple steps and in accordance with the function and purpose of the 'report to moderator' button.

Ultegra134

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on August 30, 2022, 05:29:30 PM

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

By taking a quick look at the second and third photo, you can see that 7 and 5 posts respectively were completely blank, but also all done within a few minutes before 12 am. These users are probably following such pattern for quite some time and many of their posts are conducted this way. Can moderators see that they've been edited? If not, does ninjastic.space record such changes?

Quote from: RapTarX on August 30, 2022, 05:38:05 PM

This isn’t first time here. A lot of users are having this practices for a quite long time. You know bitcointalk isn't anymore the forum it used to be/it should be. It has gone fully commercial.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on August 30, 2022, 05:29:30 PM

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

In this specific case, the ending posts are not too much of a contribution to the discussion. However, back in 2017, I remember things worse, before the introduction of the merit system, the forum was filled with spammers. Currently, I believe that this is caused because of 1xbit's campaign. It's offering low quality/spam posters an opportunity to earn money, in any other scenario, they wouldn't have been accepted in any signature campaign.

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This isn’t first time here. A lot of users are having this practices for a quite long time. You know bitcointalk isn't anymore the forum it used to be/it should be. It has gone fully commercial.

Quote from: yahoo62278 on August 30, 2022, 05:29:30 PM

Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

Users will have an argument against a ban for this. It can be a low value content when posted but when edited, it may not be the same low value content. I guess moderator won't take action then.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on August 30, 2022, 04:39:03 PM

It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

Yeah, the 1xbit scam decided to hire only spammers since quality posters won't bother to ruin their reputations advertising for scam. I think about 95% of the participants have no knowledge about sports and gambling
I don't even bother reading most replies posted by anyone wearing an 1xbit signature

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Report the users posts. Maybe if enough reports are sent in showing how they edit posts for sig pay, it could lead to the accounts getting a sig ban or perma ban. I would only report the edited posts though to try and show their pattern.

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Basically, it's the same old story we've already had with users AndySt and og kush420. And also, tranthidung already wrote about it in this thread: Spam reserved post, edit later to hit post quota is back

It's no surprise that both are members of the 1xbit campaign, most of their participants are spammers anyway. It might be worth reporting these posts to the moderators, but they will probably edit them before the moderators can take action.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on August 30, 2022, 04:39:03 PM

It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

I'd say you're right, seems like an identical way of posting and burstposting.
unfortunately, it is a 1xbit signature campaign, they are already well known to have participants in the campaign who manage multiple accounts. When I say, unfortunately, I mean, there's no point in reporting it to the campaign manager, because he already knows it. it's just their way of doing business.
the maximum we can do is to mark them with a red tag but they already have it, so it's useless.

Ultegra134

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A few days ago I saw two specific users, of the same signature campaign (wouldn't be surprised if both accounts belong to the same person) making blank replies around the forum. At first, I thought nothing of it but then it struck me, the posts were a few minutes before midnight, indicating that they're trying to reach the minimum post quota and proceed to abuse the edit function later, in order to fill in their replies. Went to sleep and checked in the morning only to be proven correct, both users had edited the blank posts and filled in some spam 1-liners.

It's pretty evident that this signature campaign is filled with spammers, who don't mind promoting a service that has scammer numerous users, and are also abusing basic forum functions in order to reach their minimum quota.

They're the following two users, Theones and bitgov:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/theones-502210
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitgov-253969

Excuse me for the photos, they're not that convenient looking from my phone.

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