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October 24, 2016, 12:05:33 AM
There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website"

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in their profile...

((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 )
Those were (or are) spam and were usually nuked on sight (after they posted). After realizing that, some probably kept registering without posting. If you can compile a list of links, we could nuke them relatively easy[1] (even though they aren't/won't cause harm).

Update: [1] Re-read the post and realized it's 35 thousand.
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October 24, 2016, 12:03:28 AM
There are one thousand, one hundred and seventy-three pages of members with the "website"

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in their profile...

((1,172 X 30) + 22 = 35,182 ) Thirty-Two thousand, one hundred and eighty-two members all with the same "Web Site" in their profile page's listing.

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October 23, 2016, 11:56:29 PM
*edit* moved to Spambots thread - will remove this post in a few days time.
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October 23, 2016, 11:43:01 AM
September 7, 2015, 10.20am - 12.15pm

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/markupsidesaddle-552818  markupsidesaddle (30)   mar 29,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 20,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/daringdiscovered-552835  daringdiscovered (645)   mar 26,  apr 12, 26,  may 10,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/charitablemoment-552847  charitablemoment (5)     mar 26,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/presencewilderness-552848  presencewilderness (5)   mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 20,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/croutonhexagon-552849  croutonhexagon (350)    mar 26,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/strippedplayoffs-552851  strippedplayoffs (6)        mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ardentvolcanoes-552853  ardentvolcanoes (629)    mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wintermeasures-552855  wintermeasures (1235)   mar 26,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19x33,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/titteringtacos-552859  titteringtacos (52)           mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cheepingknickers-552865  cheepingknickers (26)     mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 20,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sobsitesearch-552868  sobsitesearch (906)         mar 27,  apr 12, 26,  may 10, 19,  


As if the first post schedule wasn't conclusive, see how they joined on sept 7 2015 but first post over 6 months later in march 2016.
Also all their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers.

You have probably seen wintermeasures around?

There are a dozen more names to go within this list, but their post history's are less clear to show. I'm starting with the easy to explain accounts here.
I will list the others soon.

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So lets see a few more accounts that fit within the above list/timescale.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/laplacepaltry-552829  laplacepaltry (Cool             feb 16,  mar 29,  apr 11               may 10, 15, 19, 30
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/staccatoauditory-552830  staccatoauditory (90)      feb 16,  mar 29,  apr 12, 24, 28,  may 2x4, 3x...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/passivebesiege-552842  passivebesiege (273)      feb 16,  mar        apr 12, 24,        may 10,       19, 30,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chineseprancing-552858  chineseprancing (376)     feb 16,  mar 26,  apr 11, 22, 28,  may 8,         19, 30,

So, after waiting 5 months, these 4 posted once a month earlier than wintermeasures.
(check the u=#, they all fit within the first list)

add arcanaaerobics, posted once 1 month earlier, then rota,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/arcanaaerobics-552823  arcanaaerobics (491)  jan 22, feb 16, mar 26, apr 11,19x2, 20x...
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How about 4 more,

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fernswift-552827  fernswift (112)          nov 9,10,26  dec 8,16,21,24,        jan 4, 5x17...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/clangtrump-552834  clangtrump (233)      nov 4,          dec 8,     21,24,        jan 4,    7x2,  16, 22
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/setupbounds-552850  setupbounds (520)                       dec     16,         29    jan 4,    7       13, 22
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marbleregional-552863  marbleregional (88)   nov 9,24,26  dec 8, 9x44...

So even the accounts that wait 2 or 3 months before posting all end up posting on almost the same days.
(fernswift, clangtrump, marbleregional red trust?)

add caramelisedbanknote, only account to post sept 7, then rota,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/caramelisedbanknote-552838  caramelisedbanknote (504) sep 7, dec 8,16,19,24,        jan 4,    7,

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Not sure if squabblegrill goes with the main list, activating on March 26 after 6 months, or on the second list as rota is same as chineseprancing?
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/squabblegrill-552844  squabblegrill (105)  mar 26,29, apr 11,22,28, may 8x4, 10,

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Last 2 accounts,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/patterdom-552854  patterdom (4)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bleachedno-552856  bleachedno (378)  (red trust)

They are connected together by their first four posts,
patterdom    nov 4,  Jan 5,18,  feb 2,
bleachedno              Jan 5,18,  feb 2,3

clangtrump also first posted on nov 4, 2 month after registration.
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October 22, 2016, 03:10:37 PM
I'm bringing this over here where it belongs, i'm happy to learn of any knowledge you wish to share on this issue hilarious. (or anyone)

In fact, it's silly only making one post every two weeks because if it gets deleted or the thread gets trashed then you lose that entire 14 potential activity. The farmers that try spam 14 posts every two weeks tend to be the worse though to be honest but it's worth keeping an eye on the one post posters so they don't start spamming to rank up.

In fact, one post every 2 weeks is ideal for the serious farmer. The risk of a post deletion is a minimal time/reward risk.
I have not noticed this "farmed" pattern of "14 post every 2 weeks". Could you link a few accounts, maybe a couple of "the worst" banned accounts?
(i presume there were bans in these worst cases. sounds more like individual spammer than serious farmers?)
Not saying you dont, but I've seen no evidence anywhere on the forum that you understand account farming. (or any other mod/admin)

Of the 400 accounts I have listed on the real farmer thread, they do not "start spamming to rank up", they do exactly the opposite.
They quietly rank up under your radar, then, when they have some rank, they start "spamming". Their "potential rank" is quickly gained.


See how the accounts in my post above quietly rank up over months, under the radar of mods and members, until they (likely) get in a sig campaign, then they go full tilt.

By then they are a decent rank and just "appear" ready blended in.
Almost always the same pattern. Look at any of my first post farmed history's.

coynedterm (above post) may be a good example. I have suddenly noticed this account around.
5 months to quietly rank up (6 posts), now spamming for seconds trade. A full member (321 posts under 2 month later).
Much harder to "pick on" a full member?

Of course the 14/14 system may be used. I have not seen it.
I have not checked many newer accounts, maybe they are doing 14/14?

BTW. could staff/admin (theymos) help out here and provide a spreadsheet (or multiples of, ie days/weeks) of all members?
(particularly u=500000 -> todayish, 900000, including post count, and banned or not banned if poss!)
Twitchyseal has kindly provided some, but it would be far easier for admin (theymos) to organise.



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October 22, 2016, 01:38:43 PM
Account farming is not necessarily against the rules per se, however it's looked down upon. Could get you banned, if you take it to far.

Lol, how far do you "have to take it" ? 1000 accounts? 2000 accounts?
I'm sure the farmer can handle a few members looking down. (and "frowning upon" - the other deterrent)

This is why i'm trying to get more active on forum.bitcoin.com.
No real spammers, no trolls, no farmers, great and friendly mods, and much much more.
They even have signature campaigns!

You should start a thread about it. I will come over and report how the new sig campaign is going!
ie a bitcointalk treasurer is running it, earning 1/3 of the weekly payout, approx. Had to get rid of farmed account(s) when i complained.
Oh the nice mod pm'ed you to go and spam there if i remember, all paid of course as you walked straight into a sig spot.

Anyways, another thread.
Back to farming,

March 25 2016. 11.30am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dimonstration-810879  dimonstration (61)    mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/umhhppp-810884  umhhppp (55)           mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/combayn-810887  combayn (9)             mar 25,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  

Mach 28 2016  6.10am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/coynedterm-812957  coynedterm (321)      mar 28,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yonique-812958  yonique (9)               mar 28,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/splitups-812963  splitups (9)               mar 28,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dharkmadder-812964  dharkmadder (122)    mar 28,  apr 18, 27,  may10, 12,  jun 10,  jul 4,  

Created on 3 days apart for cover, first posts identical. Cover blown.

added - very first post of dimonstration (posted before the other accounts above were created)
"I spend roughly 3 to 4 hours to just accommodate the 20 per day quota on Yobit.net and updating the posts of my other accounts"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14310980
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October 20, 2016, 07:20:43 PM
This is why i'm trying to get more active on forum.bitcoin.com.

No real spammers, no trolls, no farmers, great and friendly mods, and much much more.

They even have signature campaigns!
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October 20, 2016, 07:19:49 PM
Account farming is not necessarily against the rules per se, however it's looked down upon. Could get you banned, if you take it to far.
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October 20, 2016, 06:29:20 PM
Same farmer. Same alphabet lists.

Jan 4, 2016. 8.00m
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kelvinid-715343  Kelvinid (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lucentar-715346  Lucentar (16)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/matkurb-715350  Matkurb  Matkurb (22)

Jan 5, 2016. 10.00m
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/naughtid-716526  Naughtid (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ossidalm-716533  Ossidalm (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pastonia-716545  Pastonia (21)

Jan 9, 2016. 9.00m
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xiestar-720626  Xiestar (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yutard-720637  Yutard (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zitudent-720641  Zitudent (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/almat-720643  Almat (19)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bustart-720648  Bustart (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/catmony-720652  Catmony (90)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dagmon-720657  Dagmon (21)

Jan 14
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/wefud-726851  Wefud (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xember-726858  Xember (19)

Jan 16, 2016. 11.00am.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alpinat-729496  Alpinat (20)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/batmain-729501  Batmain (18)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/catlonid-729508  Catlonid (40)

Jan 19, 2016. 5.00pm
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/documan-733302  Documan (18)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/eugenar-733312  Eugenar (19)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/faxmate-733325  Faxmate (19)


Added Jan 14.
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October 20, 2016, 05:33:52 PM
I came across a few curious accounts that follow the same formula of copy&pasting a story with a link but never coming back to the thread they started or getting involved in a discussion. Have started to make a habit of checking post history of lower accounts and now I have come across 3 in the last 24 hours that do this.
Now would this be considering farming?
One of these accounts started out posting but it was obvious they had very poor English and reverted to this formula after not even 5 posts.

Examples:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chronobank-906856
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/posternut-202096
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ezekial2517-883987

I think a farmed account must be shown to belong to a group of accounts with 1 owner, as I have shown with my "alphabet" lists, and my "repeat" lists. (many of my lists also connect together showing 1 farmer openly owning and shitposting 100's of accounts)
Multiple accounts created for spamming, scamming or selling.

So, although your listed accounts maybe "farming" their own accounts, until they are connected to many others, they are not "farmed accounts", imo.
As you say, these accounts post pure copy paste with link, no discussion/viewpoint, never return to thread. Spamming the discussion forum.
At least they should post in press, that is all they post, a press snippet. Shit-posting for sure.

I think it is a moderation issue. However, with all the hundreds of farmed accounts, I don't think mods can see the wood for the trees.

Added - I called Posternut out in July here, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.15762562
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October 20, 2016, 12:55:03 PM
I came across a few curious accounts that follow the same formula of copy&pasting a story with a link but never coming back to the thread they started or getting involved in a discussion. Have started to make a habit of checking post history of lower accounts and now I have come across 3 in the last 24 hours that do this.
Now would this be considering farming?
One of these accounts started out posting but it was obvious they had very poor English and reverted to this formula after not even 5 posts.


Examples:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/chronobank-906856
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/posternut-202096
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ezekial2517-883987
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October 18, 2016, 08:03:09 PM
Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen

He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts.

Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account?

U=299272

There have been users selling multiple forum accounts openly, when it was more profitable.
I didn't see the admins taking action against them then and I don't see that happening now.
Only if one of those accounts were spamming would action be taken upon them.
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October 18, 2016, 08:01:45 PM
Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then?  Huh Am I missing something here?

Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from.
The archive works (shows the actual amount of posts). Try refreshing a few times or switching browsers, as I've had glitches where I clicked on a thread/view users posts and no posts or only the first (top) post shows. Weird glitch.

I still only see the one post! Idk.

Ohhhh, the rest are in chinese! Maybe I have the board that they post on blocked so I can't see their posts? Does that happen?? That would make sense I guess.

legendary
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October 18, 2016, 07:44:43 PM
Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then?  Huh Am I missing something here?

Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from.
The archive works (shows the actual amount of posts). Try refreshing a few times or switching browsers, as I've had glitches where I clicked on a thread/view users posts and no posts or only the first (top) post shows. Weird glitch.
legendary
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October 18, 2016, 05:45:57 PM
Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen

He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts.

Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account?

U=299272

There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/samward-299272 how do you figure they were deleted?

Huh? I only see one post when I go to that post history. What are his other posts then?  Huh Am I missing something here?

Can you post a screenshot? This is bizarre. I only see the one post. Checked on statistics too and it shows the 1 post but gives the old statistics of when the previous posts were from.
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October 18, 2016, 05:43:08 PM
Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen

He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts.

Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account?

U=299272

There's seven pages of posts https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/samward-299272 how do you figure they were deleted?
legendary
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October 18, 2016, 05:22:15 PM
Here we go. Could we get an administrator to have a look at the IP address of this user? He's probably smart enough to not use his own but we'll see.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1654387.0;topicseen

He's looking to sell bulk orders of full member accounts.

Edit: he has deleted all his previous posts. Maybe it's a hacked account?

U=299272
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October 17, 2016, 10:14:34 AM
Ok, a new alphabet list. Accounts created Jan 10 2016.
(leading from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=20333.340 )

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/enternity-721299  Enternity (21)     jan 10, 16, 29,   feb 10, 23,   mar 6, 31,    apr
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/facinat-721369  Facinat (20)        jan 10, 17, 30,   feb 11, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gataway-721379  Gataway (20)      jan      18, 31,   feb 10, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hamliss-721390  Hamliss (20)       jan 10, 16, 29,   feb 11, 23,   mar 6, 31     apr     21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/iranus-721405  Iranus (22)         jan 10, 17, 30,   feb 10, 23,   mar 6, 31,    apr     21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jasmint-721427  Jasmint (20)       jan 10, 18, 31,   feb 11, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kenid-721443  Kenid (47)          jan 10, 16, 29,   feb 10, 23,   mar    31,     apr     21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lintel-721458  Lintel (21)          jan 10, 17, 30,   feb 11, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mastker-721487  Mastker (23)       jan 10, 18, 31,   feb 10, 23,   mar 6, 31,    apr     21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/natweast-721522  Natweast (20)     jan 10, 16, 30,   feb 11, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/oilacris-721555  Oilacris (132)      jan 10, 17, 31,   feb 10, 23,   mar 6, 31     apr     21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/pasnik-721581  Pasnik (20)         jan 10,      29,    feb 11, 24,   mar 8,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/qinetik-721605  Qinetik (20)        jan 10, 17, 31,   feb 11, 24,   mar 7,          apr 1, 22,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/reatim-721609  Reatim (20)        jan 10, 29,         feb 10, 23,   mar 6, 31     apr     21,

The farmer spent 5 and half hours creating these, but they stick out like a sore thumb.

In that 5 and half hour,
310 accounts were created in total.
14 are active farmed accounts, (above)
9 are active real accounts, (active within 3 months)
14 are inactive real accounts (not posted in 3 months)
273 are zero post dormant accounts.

The 9 active real accounts post counts are 3, 9, 21, 1, 1, 3, 106, 2, 2. As you can see, they don't post much.
The 14 real but inactive post counts 1, 12, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 24, 3, 18, 30, 2, 1, 1. They didn't last long.

Probably driven away by the farmed account spammers drivel.
As we can see, 14 farmed accounts verses 9 real (just about) active accounts.

The farmer never quits. All these accounts are ranked up ready to start serious sig spamming, as Oilacris account has.

Added first post history's, they will link in with my next post.
Also, big thanks to Twitchyseal.
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October 17, 2016, 06:41:27 AM
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October 16, 2016, 06:23:00 PM
When I used to cheat in online games using multiple accounts, I used Multi-fox, and lots of VPNs. It's pretty easy nowadays to be running multiple sessions of different accounts in different tabs, this can be good/bad (Good for online game cheating, bad because it can be used to spam)
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