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legendary
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November 02, 2016, 06:46:22 PM
I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.

I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form Sad.
hero member
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November 02, 2016, 12:40:26 PM
Interesting list, bit random like the "wintermeasures" list. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16155093


Sept 12 2015.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yagami-iori-554155  Yagami Iori                   sep 12  jul       28     aug 13, 24, sep 3x...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jose-arcadio-buendia-554158  José Arcadio Buendía     sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 4x...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/johann-sebastian-bach-554162  Johann Sebastian Bach  sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 5x...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/south-park-554165  South Park                    sep 12  jul 14, 28     aug 13, 24, sep 5...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carriagehoodlum-554169  carriagehoodlum                                           mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 19,   jun 14
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/finishedgrey-554170  finishedgrey             jan 5,    feb 16,     mar 19x6 .....
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fieldswealthy-554172  fieldswealthy            jan 5, 18              mar 26,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fizzling-554174  fizzling                                     dec 8, 21, 24,                       jan 4x....
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/andesite-554176  andesite                                   nov 9, 20, 21, 26,  dec 7, 15....
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/miscreantskua-554178  miscreantskua                                              mar 27, apr      26,  mar 10, 19,      jun 13
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/technologyevents-554180  technologyevents                                          mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20,      jun 13
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/macedoniantable-554184  macedoniantable                                           mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20x2,  jun 14

posting mar 27, apr 12, 26,  mar 10, 20x2,  jun 14, - as used by 4 accounts above is identical to "wintermeasures" & co.

fizzling                               dec 8,     21, 24,       jan 4x....                         (above, is the same as ...)
fernswift         nov 9,10,26  dec 8,16,21,24,        jan 4, 5x17..                    (wintermeasures rota)
clangtrump      nov 4,          dec 8,     21,24,        jan 4,    7x2,  16, 22        (wintermeasures rota)

i did not list first posts for "langedwig" & co, (couple posts above) but they mostly first posted jan 4 or 5, then 18,  (after registering sept 3)
same as finishedgrey and fieldswealthy above, and patterdom and bleachedno on "wintermeasures" list.

all the same farmer.
legendary
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November 02, 2016, 06:33:48 AM
Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy

while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just*  Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf

These have got to be connected to each-other (even if they aren't connected to the two above)

(and the blah is where I cut the rest of the quote out)

POTENTIAL HERO MEMBER  FOR AUCTION!

(blah)

Auction will end 4 hours after the last valid bid! I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason.

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Name: 	jooj u=913200 http://archive.is/aXSNX
Posts: 12
Activity: 12
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 27 October 2016, 17:31:46
Bitcoin address: 16AvVmg6JWHmVsDe4UCYNCHH5TRPX8A9jd

1 Member Account & 2 Full Member Account Up For Auction!!

(blah)

I have the right to end this auction at any time for any reason, however, I will honor all winning bids.  Good luck.

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Name: 	Feedbacker u=675971 http://archive.is/9CuIU
Posts: 12
Activity: 12
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 04 December 2015, 11:11:25
Bitcoin address: 1KGzuhpz4mx4goUFHCQ69YKyyfcstZmrcr

Look at the time codes for their posts from the 27th of October - One posts in the AM, the other PM, then after a few days, they both swap.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jooj-913200 http://archive.is/H35yT (Hero Accounts)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/feedbacker-675971 http://archive.is/tT2ha (Member Accounts)

Hour twelve and seventeen have posts in archived versions, but otherwise, not even close to being identical.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jooj-913200 http://archive.is/KI6fT

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/feedbacker-675971 http://archive.is/MOqhh
legendary
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November 01, 2016, 02:04:54 PM
Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?
bump.
I missed this question before. Yes, the accounts were part of a larger group I believe, but I do not have access to the specific information regarding this. BadBear/Cyrus could tell you more, should they choose to.
hero member
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November 01, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Ok, few questions.
You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?
Yes.

Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?

bump.

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November 01, 2016, 01:32:12 PM
That's my story .I bought some accounts before to sell and i think all of those accounts are in your farmed list .
The last account that i bought is from a different account farmer and i saw the account he use to sell those accounts until now.

This is the first account farmer ,
But he is wise enough as i conclude that the accounts that i bought have no similar usernames with his other accounts .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 Republic of Coin

This is the second farmer ,
On my observation his account are likely some of the usernames on the list .
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/next-billg-639394  Next BillG
vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid etc that starts with that same words and a jumbled vowels.

Thanks for posting,

they are likely the same farmer. these "seller" accounts are liable to neg trust, and are disposable.
Next BillG account sells accounts with similar names you say, vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, yet was created on a unsimular name list himself.
(see link to Next BillG above post)

the same farmer changing his "account naming style" as cover.
first long double barrel names, then any name, then similar names vurasasog,vasrasus,vatusasid, then alphabet names. our farmer is OCD.
it fooled admin and the mods. it don't fool me.
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November 01, 2016, 12:56:40 PM
This user: Next BillG u=639394
passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway)
Connected to other accounts here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16155093

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While this user: Republic of Coin u=628183
Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart)
And new to me.

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Other incidents occurring around this same time:
03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered:    langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt)
03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered:    toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt)

sept 3 2015. 10.22am to 10.59am.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/speakreclusive-551591  speakreclusive
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/langedwig-551592  langedwig              .....  above
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/barrowfiller-551594  barrowfiller
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/brilliantstylish-551596  brilliantstylish
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/toffeelive-551601  toffeelive                .....  above
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/carpenterprocesses-551602  carpenterprocesses
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/recitestores-551605  recitestores
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/storyrelativity-551606  storyrelativity          .....  only active account
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/maxwellapple-551607  maxwellapple
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mehclasses-551608  mehclasses

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These are similar:
Next BillG https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/next-billg-639394 http://archive.is/qTieo
Republic of Coin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 http://archive.is/VJVHd
with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version.

Indeed, very  similar.
I think it is clear above accounts are connected to those i listed (wintermeasures list) for sept 7, 10.22am, 4 days later to the minute!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16658179
All their names are similarly long 2 word joined. All lower case, no gaps or numbers.
I have noted their post history's.

then clearly connected to sept 8 list which includes Next BillG. (see first link)
and the next days list, and the next, and on and on...
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November 01, 2016, 12:01:09 AM
Republic of Coin is selling *just* junior member accounts http://archive.is/atFEy

while Next BillG *was* selling Senior Member accounts and has dropped to selling *just*  Full member accounts over the last 30 posts. http://archive.is/bwkFf
legendary
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October 31, 2016, 11:56:36 PM
This user:

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Name: 	Next BillG u=639394 http://archive.is/hWxZ8
Posts: 252
Activity: 252
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: 08 November 2015, 21:37:11
Last Active: 28 October 2016, 23:25:20

passed my desk on an unrelated investigation a week ago (still underway)

While this user:

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Name: 	Republic of Coin u=628183 http://archive.is/WtRDy
Posts: 159
Activity: 159
Position: Full Member
Date Registered: 02 November 2015, 20:27:31
Last Active: Today at 03:26:03

Is new to me, however, have a look at their under one week apart in registering. (some 70 mins time difference six days apart)

Other incidents occurring around this same time:

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03 September 2015, 19:23:54 Date Registered:    langedwig u=551592 http://archive.is/R8VC4 (Alaki Alt)
03 September 2015, 19:31:35 Date Registered:    toffeelive u=551601 http://archive.is/bdyTU (Alaki Alt)

09 September 2015, 21:26:38 Date Registered:    The_prodigy u=553420 http://archive.is/DYSll (Alaki Alt)
19 September 2015, 12:46:06 Date Registered:    TrueHari u=555907 http://archive.is/5HwL5 (Alaki Alt)

01 November 2015, 09:51:21 Last actual post by AccTraderALT http://archive.is/35bRu#selection-353.5-353.35

04 November 2015 Quickseller, shorena  and dogie all give monbux1 u=532457 and monbux2 u=532458 negative trust "Imposter" etc

06 November 2015, 14:37:13 Date Registered:    Hariom u=635671 http://archive.is/lEa0Q (Alaki Alt)
21 November 2015, 05:40:22 Date Registered:    kotones u=658596 http://archive.is/AyaeU (Alaki Alt)

These are similar:

Next BillG https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/next-billg-639394 http://archive.is/qTieo
Republic of Coin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 http://archive.is/VJVHd

with an almost identical trough in the same hour nine of the archived version.
hero member
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October 31, 2016, 03:45:36 PM
Hey there ,  i saw my account is on the Farmed list and i back read for that reason on this thread i will be honest no matter if i will kick in my signature campaign .
I will not mention my main account for this reason(Not Enrolled in the same campaign signature)
I do buying and selling of accounts long time ago i used my main account on that transactions and now i use this account For alternative on my main account .
I bought some accounts and i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help and give to whom Username/Account i bought it as most of his accounts i saw are being sold from now and then.

I want to clarify that i am not a spammer and a farmer ,i am not the master of those created accounts.

0k, Any help is welcome. please tell your story!
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October 30, 2016, 03:29:29 PM
I believe these 2 new threads,
Wings Spammers             https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wings-spammers-1663854
Russian Political Posters    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0

are explained by this post, the mr green list.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16405201

A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up.
There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer.
(i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive)
My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016.
I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post)
and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post)

I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016.
Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys.

I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists)

I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig?
I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016

907392
907397
907399
907400
907401
907402
907405
907406


legendary
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October 27, 2016, 10:36:49 PM
OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two.  If this message disappears, it means I have finished.  Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER

(Little BBS Joke there people)...

Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together.

That joke... clean over my head.  Cheesy

With BBS' being on dial up, the flat-mate would trip over the phone cord and you would loose the connection - meanwhile on your PC's screen if you were using TELIX or BLUE-WAVE or similar, you'd get ^^NO CARRIER to signify you'd lost the connection.

(Kids these days don't know anything...)  Roll Eyes  Grin  Cool
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October 27, 2016, 10:31:18 PM
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I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.


Why not share it just with the people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla)

That's what's know as a back-handed complement...
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October 27, 2016, 03:34:00 PM
OK, am home now - will be transferring the relevant details to the other thread over the next hour or two.  If this message disappears, it means I have finished.  Thanks for rea^^NO CARRIER

(Little BBS Joke there people)...

Please leave your posts, and any others you move as links to your thread. Funny how these things can come back together.

That joke... clean over my head.  Cheesy
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October 27, 2016, 03:25:22 PM
people that have proven they would use it for good. (like rizzlarolla)

thanks Twitchyseal.

"there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts "
Exactly.

"It's technically not against the rules."
There is no specific "farmer" rule, but there are other rules. No spam. No low quality posts.
How is it possible to own and post with "hundreds" of accounts and not be low quality spam!
Mods will judge each as an individual!

There is another rule. If 1 account is banned, all his alts are also banned.
"it is not the account, it is the farmer person.
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October 27, 2016, 03:08:24 PM
Ok, few questions.
You mean like "all 7 accounts" listed in my post above are banned?
Yes.

Lauda,
Were only those 7 accounts banned together, or were they part of a bigger group banned at that time?


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I will wait and see if BadBear turns up here in the next day or two to thank me and supply the spreadsheets i requested with info on the investigation of the quoted farmers, maybe a strategy! Maybe BadBear will post a new list of farmed accounts (with evidences) he has found!

I don't share information like that. It just gives them more information on what to avoid, and what not to do. They read this board too.

Bit lame.

No info, no spreadsheets, no list, no thanks, no help.

They have been untouched for a year. How long were you going to leave it?
lol, give them info like don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,J,K,L,...
or don't create long lists of accounts with names starting A,B,C,D,A,B,C,D...

So blatant. They are not hidden.
it is hard to be random, bitcoiners know that? and this farmer failed spectacularly.

To be random would take real time and effort from the farmer, likely making his operation unprofitable.

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October 27, 2016, 11:44:56 AM
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Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
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Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)

Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you.

I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying  Grin

Yeah, from Badbears responses you may be right.  It's technically not against the rules.

But there's obviously a big difference between people using multiple accounts to post on the forum and people creating hundreds or thousands of accounts to sell to other people.

Making farmed accounts worth less should really be the goal ultimately, banning bunches of accounts might be annoying for the farmer, but I don't think it will affect their prices much.  Would probably be better to get a list, keep it private and let them know 20 random accounts were getting banned off the list every day.
legendary
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October 27, 2016, 11:09:56 AM
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Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
-snip-

Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)

Multi accounts are allowed so by design account farming on multiple accounts is allowed, no? It's what people do with these accounts that warrants a ban or not. But accounts are evaluated from a pretty much subjective point of view so what appears a bannable offense to me might not be the same for you.

I have no understanding of modding forums so don't listen to what I am saying  Grin
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October 27, 2016, 10:08:13 AM
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Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern.
-snip-

Why not?

Is account farming(.) Allowed?

(sorry if this has been answered already - and I'm not trying to be a smart ass here)
legendary
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October 27, 2016, 09:37:59 AM
Wouldn't be helpful if I did, it's mostly private information he can't access anyway. I can't help with the spreadsheet.

Not really a fan of mass banning accounts based solely on a pattern. It's a good starting point/correlation though, I've banned a few thus far (couple hundred total).
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