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November 06, 2016, 06:41:35 AM
in my opinion it is not allowed because the reason , we are here to help each other but If we have multiple accounts then we needs to give our feedback in different ways which us a bad thing .
so i think it is not allowed here for account farming .
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November 06, 2016, 06:39:12 AM
Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla?  Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast.

The DT's are reluctant to get involved (Too many! They decry) - so I just hit them where it hurts - in their signature campaigns.  Get them banned and Red Paint TM the account.  They then can't sell the account, they have to buy another new account and get resigned up for signature campaigns all of which takes time and BitCoins.  The hours / days they loose resurrecting a Zombie Alt TM from the farmer's grave-yard is lost time spamming the Forum.
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November 06, 2016, 06:34:14 AM
Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla?  Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast.

that's kind of what i was thinking.
To be fair handed, all need negative feedback imo.  Maybe "Don't buy or trust this farmed account, this feedback is permanent"


Have you seen any DT members round here?
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November 06, 2016, 06:25:21 AM
Is it feasible for a DT member to red tag all the farmed accounts as you identify them, Rizzla?  Perhaps reducing the value of farmed accounts with red paint is the best way non-admins can attack this beast.
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November 06, 2016, 06:07:21 AM
from https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1657397.new#new

I cannot argue with your decision because you have all the freedom to make it happen what you want. But saying that I am a farm account is too much and something that you need to prove.

i have proven you are farmed account.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/account-farming-allowed-1597201

Come and put your case, if you think you can prove different.

Dude I respect you as you have a higher rank than me,but what you did does not prove that I am an alt account? Do you know what coincidence is?

I would not discuss any further in the thread cause I know I have no shot of proving I am innocent of what you are trying to throw on me.

ok, then if Lauda will allow, i will show here why you "have no shot of proving I am innocent"

you are a "alphabet" account. that means you were created along with other accounts in order A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,........so on.
i posted yesterday,
I'm liking my 500+ list.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rizzs-500-1670807

It is starting to show patterns very nicely.
Look at the alphabet list on Nov 27. (the 2nd list that day)

See how the alphabet is continued from one regestration session to the next. One day to the next.
7 straight days that continues, getting through 3 and half alphabets.
What was he thinking!

your account was created on that 7th straight day. 75 accounts were created over those 7 days. other alphabet lists on different days are also clearly connected.
every single account has a capital first letter. no numbers.

here are post history rota for Hatuferu and surrounding accounts,

Nov 30.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xenophoto-671028  Xenophoto (1600)    nov 30,   dec  9, 20,   jan  1, 12, 26,   feb 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yellowmoon-671040  YellowMoon (14)      nov 30,   dec 10, 21,   jan 2, 14, 27,   feb 8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zooplus-671046  Zooplus (2528)        nov 30,   dec 11, 22,   jan     15, 28,   feb 9

Dec 1. 10.00am.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alphasun-672152  AlphaSun (188) ***               dec 1, 9, 20,   jan 1,12,27,   feb 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bepesand-672154  Bepesand (99)                       dec 1,10,21,   jan 2,14,27,   feb 8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cacaparg-672155  Cacaparg (52)                        dec 1,11,22,   jan 3,15,28,   feb 9

Dec 3. 9.30am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/essentialcoin-675418  EssentialCoin (29)                  dec 3, 9, 20     jan 1,12,26,   feb 7
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fatanut-675421  Fatanut (978)                        dec 3,10 ,21,   jan 2,14,27,   feb 8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gotumoot-675425  Gotumoot (25)                       dec 3,11,22,    jan 3,15,28,   feb 9

Dec 4. 8.50am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hatuferu-676080  Hatuferu (2022)                      dec 4,16,20,   jan 2,14,27,   feb 8
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/julahid-676082  Julahid (55)                 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kewatia-676083  Kewatia (167) ***                  dec 4,16,20,   jan 2,14,27,   feb 8

you ask "Do you know what coincidence is?"
i do. which is why i can see the above is beyond coincidence.
i suppose Fatanut is coincidence too. and AlphaSun and Zooplus ?
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November 05, 2016, 07:39:01 PM
I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs.

He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin"
"Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date.
That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability.

Did @Viyamore happen type type the name of his "main" account to you? - what I mean is did he actually type that name, not just provide a screen shot of his discussion with "Republic Of Coin"?

No type, only screenshot.
?
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November 05, 2016, 06:33:52 PM
I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs.

He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin"
"Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date.
That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability.

Did @Viyamore happen type type the name of his "main" account to you? - what I mean is did he actually type that name, not just provide a screen shot of his discussion with "Republic Of Coin"?
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November 05, 2016, 06:14:53 PM
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November 05, 2016, 12:05:09 PM
I've had Fatanut PM me overnight...

At a guess all five are bought accounts which means we're not actually dealing with the true owner of these accounts...

I've had Viyamore pm me overnight with his proofs.

He has shown via pm screenshot his "main" account purchasing "Viyamore" from "Republic of Coin"
"Viyamore" purchased on April 9 2016, as i though. Look at the grammar change on that date.
That i believe. His main account (and his "Viyamore" pm's) have exactly the same grammar and English ability.

"Viyamore" explained to me that he is saying he bought and sold the other 4 accounts he listed, "5 or 6 months ago"
He can not prove that as he has deleted those pm's.

I've also had another pm overnight from another farmed account trying to say it is not a farmed account.
The 2nd pm from this account starts "I will be honest with you." Now saying he bought the account.

Soon all the farmed accounts will claim pity, that they "only" bought the account.
I only care if i list an account that was not farmed.
His account was.
I don't intend to watch 500+ farmed accounts forevermore, trying to find every time they are sold or resold.

Farmed accounts, 3 goals imo. sig spam, sell or scam.
To be fair handed, all need negative feedback imo.  Maybe "Don't buy or trust this farmed account, this feedback is permanent"





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November 04, 2016, 07:58:32 PM
I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent"

I was contacted by Alanay to remove negative trust concerning a link to morocco.man - their logic was correct, and I amended from negative to neutral:

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Alanay -2: -1 / +0   2016-07-05   0.00000000   Reference   I misread a transaction and therefore incorrectly said that Alanay was an Alt of morocco.man - There is no evidence that connects Alanay to any other BTC user.

Alanay then went out and scammed someone.

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Johny Depp 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-21   0.00000000   Reference   Scammer. Just caught him red handed. Please check reference.
micher143 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-18   0.00000000      i think with its post it is clearly that she is a scammer
Lacballs 0: -0 / +0   2016-10-17   0.00800000      Scammer
csmcanarney 20: -0 / +2   2016-10-16   0.00000000      admitted to defrauding players on his site loli.center
MartinL 0: -0 / +1   2016-10-16   0.00000000   Reference   sockpuppet of Loli.Center (909512), who admitted to defrauding players on his site

Which is why I can up with / amended someone elses text to read what I posted earlier.

Fatanut is now PMing me to say they aren't an Alt of the other ones...  (which could explain the three names / four posted earlier)
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November 04, 2016, 07:32:18 PM
I'm going to try and remember to start adding something like "Don't buy this account, This feedback is permanent"
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November 04, 2016, 05:43:50 PM

Thanks for that.

i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help...

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I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio

Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account?
I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4.

I've had Fatanut PM me overnight - the usual sob story that my Neutral feed back on the four Trust walls will affect their ability to trade.

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This UID has been bought and sold a number of times, you should do due diligence if considering trading as it may not be with the same person you previously did business with.

So, I put together the list of Alts

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This is a farmed account.  The current owner of this account Viyamore u=670726 claims there has only been one owner since it was farmed.

Accounts connected:

Viyamore u=670726 Zooplus u=671046 Fatanut u=675421 Hatuferu u=676080 quintiilieo u=715575

At a guess all five are bought accounts which means we're not actually dealing with the true owner of these accounts, so we don't know how trust worthy this person really is and perhaps they are just offering up ones that have been noticed to take our attention away from other UID's.

I've had from time to time the same old sob story that my neutral trust (first one above) is somehow hurting these UID's ability to trade, so I'll open it up to discussion, should I water down what I've written?  I can't keep patrolling these famed accounts to re-flag in future - what wording might be ok?
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November 04, 2016, 02:27:22 PM

Thanks for that.

i have a Proof that i bought this account long time ago and i am willing to help...

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I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu Zooplus Fatanut And Quintilleio

Would you share that proof of purchase date for Viyamore account?
I don't understand "including 3 accounts", you then list 4.
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November 04, 2016, 08:39:25 AM

Identical posting rota as Viyamore  (and others) - see quote.
more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts.

AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people.
3 goals -  sig spam, sell or scam.

I actually bought this account last april 26, 2016  from Republic of Coin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republic-of-coin-628183 including that 3 accounts( using my main account) and been sold before.

Hatuferu
Zooplus
Fatanut
And
Quintilleio

That last one doesn't exist with that spelling, the closest I can find is

Code:
Name: 	quintilio
Posts: 11
Activity: 11
Position: Newbie
Date Registered: 26 April 2014, 09:33:39
Last Active: 22 September 2016, 01:46:56

Bitcoin address: 1CEDdST2sFSygBMgHo97kjTUUgYeQUtyPu
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November 04, 2016, 04:56:13 AM
I believe these 2 new threads,
Wings Spammers             https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wings-spammers-1663854
Russian Political Posters    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1666048.0

are explained by this post, the mr green list.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16405201

A (likely) new farmer. Russian, mainly in the Wings campaign, or Ark campaign, or ranking up.
There is also a (likely) new Chinese farmer.
(i strangely have "some" evidence to link both these farmers, and our original farmer, not conclusive)
My linked post connected accounts created on June 5 and 6, 2016.
I have found others, Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, from June 5, (yet to post)
and even more Russian farmed Wings sig accounts, and Chinese farmed accounts on June 6 (yet to post)

I have seen, and started to compile many new lists involving above farmer(s) creating accounts on many days in June 2016.
Not having any help off theymos or any admin here, i have no spreadsheets for this period. It's like working blind, thanks guys.

I know this farmer carries on after June. (i also know it carries on prior to June, back to my jan lists)

I have found a list for as recently as October 10, 2016. Russian farmed accounts, too new to be in Wings sig?
I'm not linking them here and now, but as evidence for any interested readers that farming still goes on unchecked, here are some of those farmed u=# from October 10, 2016

907392
907397
907399
907400
907401
907402
907405
907406


No one can compare Chinese farmers, each of te farmer has more than 30 accounts, you can google it for further topics.
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November 03, 2016, 11:13:37 AM
I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.

you understand now you are not on the farmed list.

I looked at your post history anyway, just to be sure, and on the first page was a link to a (unproven) scam accusation against Xenophoto.
Which led me to post below, thanks, funny how these things happen!

I am wondering on this accounts why they are still on sign campaigns or some of this accounts are being sold to other users.
What will happen on them ?

Sure you are.

I want to tidy up the bbc.spammer list a little more. (***bbc. spammer list)

Dec 1. 10.00am.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/alphasun-672152  AlphaSun (188) ***
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bepesand-672154  Bepesand (99)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cacaparg-672155  Cacaparg (52)

Dec 3. 9.30am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/essentialcoin-675418  EssentialCoin (29)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fatanut-675421  Fatanut (978)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/gotumoot-675425  Gotumoot (25)

Dec 4. 8.50am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/hatuferu-676080  Hatuferu (2022)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/julahid-676082  Julahid (55)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kewatia-676083  Kewatia (167) ***

9 famed accounts, 3600 spam posts.
So, how do you fit in?

Nov 30, 9.30 am
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tagcibat-670721  Tagcibat (17)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/viyamore-670726  Viyamore (817)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/watjila-670737  Watjila (23)

Lets look at your post history,
Viyamore   nov 30,  dec 10, 21,  jan 2, 14, 27,  feb 8,

Exactly the same as Bepesand and Fatanut.
Farmed in 3's, accounts created same time consecutive days, posted in rota.

Looks to me I may have missed some accounts here. Alphabet list missing a few letters?
Viyamore - you are a part of this mass farming.

I thought the alphabet list above, created over days, was missing a session. X,Y and Z were missing. Not any longer.

Nov 30 1.00pm
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xenophoto-671028  Xenophoto (1600)    nov 30,   dec  9, 20,   jan  1, 12, 26,   feb 7, 20
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/yellowmoon-671040  YellowMoon (14)      nov 30,   dec 10, 21,   jan 2, 14, 27,   feb 8, 21,
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zooplus-671046  Zooplus (2528)        nov 30,   dec 11, 22,   jan     15, 28,   feb 9, 22

Identical posting rota as Viyamore  (and others) - see quote.
more big names here - big spammers anyway. 3 accounts, well over 4000 posts.

AlphaSun, Fatanut, Hatuferu, Xenophoto, Zooplus. All farmed accounts posing as different people.
3 goals -  sig spam, sell or scam.



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November 03, 2016, 08:49:38 AM
I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form Sad.
From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.

Ok thanks for the info much appreciated Smiley.

I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.

You might be thinking of how a few pages back a Troll posted a rather extensive list of UID's on DannyHamilton's ignore list (with said Troll's own subset added in for good measure)...
legendary
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November 02, 2016, 07:17:11 PM
I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form Sad.
From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.

Ok thanks for the info much appreciated Smiley.

I thought I'd been tagged for account farming in which case I do not.
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November 02, 2016, 06:58:30 PM
I'd appreciate it if my name was taken off this list.
I only have 1 account and hate account farming in any way, shape or form Sad.
From what I can see in the thread, no one is accusing you of account farming.
The list that you (and I) are on is DannyHamilton's - and by extension AGD's - ignore list. This is because every user wearing a paid signature was added to this list, regardless of post quality. If you want to be removed, you should contact Danny and AGD; this isn't the right place.
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