Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 55.

crazydane

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I ordered a pair of 215+ yesterday (order #290). I'm trying for figure how I should deploy them for the most bang for the buck, so to speak. These are the rigs I have:

My initial thought would be to throw them both in the rig with 7x 1060 3GB cards and 2 available M.2 slots. However, those GPU's are all on x1 risers running PCIe Gen2 mode (I don't think the risers would work if I switched to Gen3 in the BIOS). But maybe?

My 2nd option would be to stick one in the rig with 4x 1080Ti that are plugged directly into PCIe Gen3 slots @ x8. That rig has a 40 lane CPU.

How would you deploy a pair of 215+ given my available rig configurations?

R0land

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 14, 2018, 09:01:53 AM

Quote from: WhyMe on July 14, 2018, 08:42:37 AM

Anyone have seen any piece of software for this ?

yes

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/sqrl-miner/

I can´t find the download link.
And where are the open API doc and specifications ?

philipma1957

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'The right to privacy matters'

Quote from: WhyMe on July 14, 2018, 08:42:37 AM

Anyone have seen any piece of software for this ?

yes

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/sqrl-miner/

@gpuhoarder

this order is paid for order number 000000482

I used coinpayments and really struggled to get it to work

I know you are busy today. I had difficulty getting orders done and paid with coin payments. I did get one order in and it has been paid so I hope it will simply be marked paid. and not canceled.. This is order number 000000482 and as of now it is marked canceled.

Pdf have been attached

I am sorry for the confusion but coin payments was very difficult to work with.

Thanks again,

Philip A....

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Subject: Ticket Received - [#2xxxxx] Re: Your SQRL order confirmation
To: [email protected]
Date: Friday, July 13, 2018, 6:37 PM

Dear PHILIP A.......,

Thank you for
contacting our support team. You should receive a reply from
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So I have 2 orders paid for 1 is to themineority for 1 acorn 215+ this has been paid and it seems to be good.

I is to squirrelsreasearch for 1 acorn 215+ and a x2g nest about 445 usd this has been paid and it was canceled.

I do not expect your personal reply or service for the order..number 000000482

however it would be nice to see it fixed and marked paid since you have the btc sent from coinpayments.

I sent a pm to gpuhoarder and I am looking forward to this being corrected.

WhyMe

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Anyone have seen any piece of software for this ?

vapourminer

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

havent seen this mentioned (but im practically blind..) what cpu is recommended?

i ordered two 215+ and a nest card, plan is to use the nest in a 16 lane gen 3 slot with one 215+ on my onda b250 d8p, it has a pentium 4400 and ill use it for 2 amd 470s and 2 1070s, if it can handle it. the gpus will be 1 pcie lane at gen3. the other 215+ will go in a gigabyte z97 (has a celly 1340 or something) with one 1080ti at pcie gen 3 with 8 lanes, that board will also have a bcu1525.

are cpu upgrades in my future?

sorry if this has been answered; discord is a mess to find info.

MinedTangerine

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Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 14, 2018, 04:43:41 AM

Quote from: MinedTangerine on July 14, 2018, 03:54:39 AM

Quote from: grendel25 on July 14, 2018, 12:21:21 AM

$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.

And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.

I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.

Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.

More important then payment options (I mean you can just buy some bitcoint and then pay, not best but doable at least) is:

- shipping (if you think 42$ is much then I can tell you I would need to pay 75$ for EU)
- shipping from EU. I won't pay VAT + import tax.

With both problems above 1 acorn would cost me basically 2 acorns. With all the talk about decentralization and equal opportunities US people still have huge advantage in everything. Untill EU gets the same options as US there is no decentralization for me

The shipping is the same as if you quote fedex.com, actually that’s much worse for EU. We’re working on fixing this but that requires fedex fixing our rates in their API, but once it is fixed we will refund any differences.

You won’t pay double VAT/Import, we do a DDP which is why you’re charged VAT.

The EU has many taxes and fees for companies that do business with it - we gain nothing from all those extra charges, talk to your governments.

There’s also a lot of misinformation in this thread - so much it is hard to keep up on. I would really encourage reading the FAQ on http://www.squirrelsresearch.com

Thank you for clarification. And sorry if I was spreading misinformation. But with all the taxes, regulations etc...its hard to know what you pay in the end. I also understand you had little time to prepare. Anyway going to read the FAQ.

Don't worry we all know its not you charging us that extra costs but all the guys in between (shipping, guverments etc...).

EDIT: Just read the FAQ, you should really put all the shipping and VAT, import TAX related info in there. It will reduce the number of questions and misinformation a lot.

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Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 14, 2018, 04:43:41 AM

The shipping is the same as if you quote fedex.com, actually that’s much worse for EU. We’re working on fixing this but that requires fedex fixing our rates in their API, but once it is fixed we will refund any differences.

You won’t pay double VAT/Import, we do a DDP which is why you’re charged VAT.

The EU has many taxes and fees for companies that do business with it - we gain nothing from all those extra charges, talk to your governments.

There’s also a lot of misinformation in this thread - so much it is hard to keep up on. I would really encourage reading the FAQ on http://www.squirrelsresearch.com

Please, consider a payment by debit card, I'll buy at once.

I don't even know what ACH transfer means.

GPUHoarder

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Quote from: MinedTangerine on July 14, 2018, 03:54:39 AM

Quote from: grendel25 on July 14, 2018, 12:21:21 AM

$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.

And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.

I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.

Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.

More important then payment options (I mean you can just buy some bitcoint and then pay, not best but doable at least) is:

- shipping (if you think 42$ is much then I can tell you I would need to pay 75$ for EU)
- shipping from EU. I won't pay VAT + import tax.

With both problems above 1 acorn would cost me basically 2 acorns. With all the talk about decentralization and equal opportunities US people still have huge advantage in everything. Untill EU gets the same options as US there is no decentralization for me

The shipping is the same as if you quote fedex.com, actually that’s much worse for EU. We’re working on fixing this but that requires fedex fixing our rates in their API, but once it is fixed we will refund any differences.

You won’t pay double VAT/Import, we do a DDP which is why you’re charged VAT.

The EU has many taxes and fees for companies that do business with it - we gain nothing from all those extra charges, talk to your governments.

There’s also a lot of misinformation in this thread - so much it is hard to keep up on. I would really encourage reading the FAQ on http://www.squirrelsresearch.com

MinedTangerine

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Quote from: grendel25 on July 14, 2018, 12:21:21 AM

$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.

And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.

I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.

Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.

More important then payment options (I mean you can just buy some bitcoint and then pay, not best but doable at least) is:

- shipping (if you think 42$ is much then I can tell you I would need to pay 75$ for EU)
- shipping from EU. I won't pay VAT + import tax.

With both problems above 1 acorn would cost me basically 2 acorns. With all the talk about decentralization and equal opportunities US people still have huge advantage in everything. Untill EU gets the same options as US there is no decentralization for me

GordoLui

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So I have these three motherboards

https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/H81%20Pro%20BTC%20R2.0/
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z370-A-PRO/Specification
https://www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/462/mining.html

All are running 3 vegas each all on risers all mining monero.
Lets say i get a nest x2 and 2 acorn cle +215 that should give my 3 cards the boost correct? I mean it wont be optimal since I dont have 4 cards but the 3 should all be good?

yrk1957

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Quote from: grendel25 on July 14, 2018, 12:21:21 AM

$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.

And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.

I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.

Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.

It was in the faq or something, methods like PayPal don’t like crypto mining related transactions. Hence crypto or ACH.

grendel25

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$42 for shipping such a tiny thing? I've never paid so much for shipping not going to start now.

And why all the payment weirdness? crypto or ACH transfer only? Even in satoshi's white paper it is said that crytpo is not expected to eliminate fiat but compliment it.

I can buy all sorts of mining -crypto related- stuff with traditional payment methods. I hope this weirdness ends.

Just some feedback... I thought we were going to see a payment portal that accepted traditional payment methods.

dsmn

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Quote from: Elder III on July 13, 2018, 11:01:46 PM

"but anyways if it's a 2.0 riser max 4gpu to 1 acorn density, if it's 3.0 link speed then it's up to 2 gpu to 1 acorn density. But the proper balance for a particular algo means doing the math with the numbers on the chart
if you are on a full x4 connection then you can go up to 1:1 density
or more if the gpu on x8 or w/e
1:2"

Sounds like the miner software will itself configure it to the best it can with the speeds you give it, thats good news, When its not stated on the site you think that a misconfiguration would result in a total bottleneck slowing down your hashrate to posible under what you would get without the acorns

dsmn

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Quote from: N2DCRYPT on July 13, 2018, 11:01:06 PM

There's no way the LGA1151 socket has enough pcie lanes coming from the chipset to run that many GPUs on the 3.0 protocol.

Ehm, the x1 ports those mining boards have is from the chipset. the cpu just run the big x16 port.
So in my case it would be 4x acorns on pcie 3.0 x16 via the cpu's pcie hub on the x16 port.
And then data over dmi to the x1 ports to the gpu's.

EDIT B250 have 12 pcie 3.0 lanes.

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Quote from: KaydenC on July 13, 2018, 10:44:51 PM

Quote from: bitcoinbromo on July 13, 2018, 09:48:59 PM

Quote from: Elder III on July 13, 2018, 09:09:59 PM

We ordered some to pair with our GTX 1080 Ti models (and a few Vegas). The plan is to have 6 Acorn 215+ paired with 6 GTX 1080 Ti on a ASUS Prime 370-A motherboard, using the ASUS Hyper x6 addon card for 4 Acorns (since that motherboard does support Bifurcation) and 2 Acorns on the M.2 slots on the motherboard itself. If need be we can spread them out over more motherboards since we currently have more motherboards then GPUs on hand.

How would that work with only 3 x16 slots 8/8/4 and 4 x1 slots (which to my understanding are useless for the acorn)?

Also, what is everyone else intending to use for a mobo? I can't seem to find any affordable options with more than 3 x16 slots and 2 M2 slots, one of which is usually in the way of a x16 slot.

I'm not jumping in due lack of afforable mobo options too. Waiting for an epyc mobo with 7x pcie 16x slots and 3x m2 slots for $300 - $400.
Imo Antminer z9 mini for $650 with coupons is a better place to invest than 2 acorns right now.

I was going to type something up, but this quote from discord already says everything I was going to.

"but anyways if it's a 2.0 riser max 4gpu to 1 acorn density, if it's 3.0 link speed then it's up to 2 gpu to 1 acorn density. But the proper balance for a particular algo means doing the math with the numbers on the chart
if you are on a full x4 connection then you can go up to 1:1 density
or more if the gpu on x8 or w/e
1:2"

Also, the Z370 chipset has up to 40 PCIe lanes, not 16.

The drop from PCIE 2.0 x4 to PCIE 3.0 x 1 is reported as not being too bad, but in any case we will be testing it to see. If the numbers are too much worse we have other motherboards to spread out our 1080 Ti GPUs with 1 to 1 Acorns ratio. I got a Threadripper 1950X recently for some personal workstation use, so we may play around with that too (some really nice possibilities there with 64 PCIE lanes for Acorns and GPUs).

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Quote from: dsmn on July 13, 2018, 10:58:15 PM

There is one thing I keep thinking, the Acorn Nest X4 can run from a x16 2.0 interface, so if each acorn fpga card can boost 2 lower end gpu's like 1060 1070 and RX570 you should be able to use for example TB250-BTC PRO its x1 ports runs pcie 3.0, so 8 gpu in 8 of those x1 3.0 ports fits the speed the acorns is gona sit on with its x16 pcie 2.0 limit.

There's no way the LGA1151 socket has enough pcie lanes coming from the chipset to run that many GPUs on the 3.0 protocol.

dsmn

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There is one thing I keep thinking, the Acorn Nest X4 can run from a x16 2.0 interface, so if each acorn fpga card can boost 2 lower end gpu's like 1060 1070 and RX570 you should be able to use for example TB250-BTC PRO its x1 ports runs pcie 3.0, so 8 gpu in 8 of those x1 3.0 ports fits the speed the acorns is gona sit on with its x16 pcie 2.0 limit.

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Quote from: bitcoinbromo on July 13, 2018, 09:48:59 PM

Quote from: Elder III on July 13, 2018, 09:09:59 PM

We ordered some to pair with our GTX 1080 Ti models (and a few Vegas). The plan is to have 6 Acorn 215+ paired with 6 GTX 1080 Ti on a ASUS Prime 370-A motherboard, using the ASUS Hyper x6 addon card for 4 Acorns (since that motherboard does support Bifurcation) and 2 Acorns on the M.2 slots on the motherboard itself. If need be we can spread them out over more motherboards since we currently have more motherboards then GPUs on hand.

How would that work with only 3 x16 slots 8/8/4 and 4 x1 slots (which to my understanding are useless for the acorn)?

Also, what is everyone else intending to use for a mobo? I can't seem to find any affordable options with more than 3 x16 slots and 2 M2 slots, one of which is usually in the way of a x16 slot.

I'm not jumping in due lack of afforable mobo options too. Waiting for an epyc mobo with 7x pcie 16x slots and 3x m2 slots for $300 - $400.
Imo Antminer z9 mini for $650 with coupons is a better place to invest than 2 acorns right now.

dsmn

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Looks like the cheapest solution for a big setup will be the "Nest X2G"

You could have 3x Nest X2G 6x acorn and 6x gpu, and it will fit fine in any motherboard with 3x pcie x4 3.0.

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I am curious on how to accomplish 6x 1080ti and 6x Acorns on the Asus Prime myself. I have a similar mobo as far as slots and most features in the Asus Maximus Formula X. Of course I know now (after reading the manual - Asus web page did not list my board as compatible) that I could use the ASUS Hyper x16 card which is cheaper than the Acorn Nest options but I was concerned about the PCIe lanes limited to 16 for the 8700k and the motherboard.

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