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Topic: Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 56. (Read 73507 times)

newbie
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July 13, 2018, 09:48:59 PM
We ordered some to pair with our GTX 1080 Ti models (and a few Vegas).  The plan is to have 6 Acorn 215+ paired with 6 GTX 1080 Ti on a ASUS Prime 370-A motherboard, using the ASUS Hyper x6 addon card for 4 Acorns (since that motherboard does support Bifurcation) and 2 Acorns on the M.2 slots on the motherboard itself.  If need be we can spread them out over more motherboards since we currently have more motherboards then GPUs on hand.

How would that work with only 3 x16 slots 8/8/4 and 4 x1 slots (which to my understanding are useless for the acorn)?


Also, what is everyone else intending to use for a mobo? I can't seem to find any affordable options with more than 3 x16 slots and 2 M2 slots, one of which is usually in the way of a x16 slot.
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 274
July 13, 2018, 09:09:59 PM
We ordered some to pair with our GTX 1080 Ti models (and a few Vegas).  The plan is to have 6 Acorn 215+ paired with 6 GTX 1080 Ti on a ASUS Prime 370-A motherboard, using the ASUS Hyper x6 addon card for 4 Acorns (since that motherboard does support Bifurcation) and 2 Acorns on the M.2 slots on the motherboard itself.  If need be we can spread them out over more motherboards since we currently have more motherboards then GPUs on hand.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
July 13, 2018, 09:08:21 PM
I have multiple boards for these that have the right lanes.

I wish the order would be corrected as I may go for 2 more 215+ and a second 2 card holder.
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
July 13, 2018, 09:00:25 PM
Can someone clarify the requirement for Acorn in relation to PCIE bandwidth? I know the Acorn itself is M.2 but do the GPUs it accelerates have to be on full speed PCIE slots, ie. can Acorn accelerate GPUs that are on 1X risers?

I have AMD and NVIDIA rigs on Asrock BTC 110+ plus boards with various numbers of GPUs on them using 1x risers. This board has has an M.2 slot I can put an Acorn into but I am not clear if the Acorn requires the target GPUs to be on a faster PCIE connection

probably best to join the discord, I believe since every setup is a bit different it's hard to say:    https://discord.gg/jdw8jZB

THX- I am on this forum and Discord and finding it hard to navigate the info. I asked the same question in Discord and was referred to the FAQ, I think I will sit this one out

go to the #gpuhoarder-products  channel... you can always do a search in the upper right in discord
sr. member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 274
July 13, 2018, 08:57:06 PM
Why not set up 32 Acorn CLE 215+s on a octominer and let them mine by themselves using little power.

The Octominer is completely starved of PCIE Lanes, which is precisely what you need to run lots of Acorns. 

The Acorn 215+ needs PCIE 2.0 x4 (or equivalent) speed to operate and ideally the GPU(s) it is paired with would have that speed as well.  Every mining specific motherboard that I am aware of limits you to 1x speed (either gen. 2.0 or 3.0), which is too slow to be as effective.

Take a few minutes to research PCI Express lanes, what the different generations are relative to each other speed wise.  Then research your motherboard(s) and see how many PCIE lanes it has (don't forget ones from the CPU too) and how are they routed on your motherboard.  You will find that the cheaper motherboards that we like to get as miners are poorly suited for Acorn acceleration.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
July 13, 2018, 08:30:35 PM
Why not set up 32 Acorn CLE 215+s on a octominer and let them mine by themselves using little power.

Board does not have enough quality slots.

I think 3.0 pcie are better then 1.0 pcie

I am not sure that board is good enough.

This gear looks like 2card and 4card holders on boards may kick ass.
jr. member
Activity: 68
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July 13, 2018, 08:18:21 PM
The info is just to little on these devices, like for example it does not tell if you can use the 2 bigger ones for ethereum or moneo, with only 50% more in price i guess more than me would be intrested in buying the bigger ones, using them for eth, for then to be able to fall back to something else when eth goes pos.

It does not tell the exact bandwidth requirements so you can properly build a system it wont bottleneck in, the only thing we really know is that 4 pcie 2.0 lanes should be enough, and we can then only guess from what people here say for example that it "should" be able to boost 2 1060's, and if so then x2 slots must be required for them.

Its a shame but I think im gona skip this one and check back in in august. Wink
jr. member
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July 13, 2018, 08:08:45 PM
Why not set up 32 Acorn CLE 215+s on a octominer and let them mine by themselves using little power.

I think most are looking to boost their gpu's for a little reinvestment, the solo mining is a bit iffy since pretty much anything an fpga can solo mine, you can make an asic for, so its highly speculative Smiley
jr. member
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July 13, 2018, 08:05:22 PM
Why not set up 32 Acorn CLE 215+s on a octominer and let them mine by themselves using little power.
member
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July 13, 2018, 08:00:32 PM
I placed two orders today. One this afternoon for the Acorn and one this evening for the Acorn Nest. The website was a little funky with formatting in Chrome and this afternoon it was a little slow with the flurry of activity, but both orders appeared to go through just fine and no issues with payments.
jr. member
Activity: 68
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July 13, 2018, 07:54:28 PM
Hmm I did some digging and did some numbers, its a shame there is no performance numbers out on ethereum yet.

1, Acorn can run from at full speed on x4 pcie 2.0 slot without any limits.
2, Technicaly you should be able to use something like the AsRock ULTRA QUAD M.2 CARD in a x16 slot to feed 4 acorns. But another sulution with its own pcie switch would most likely be better supported since not all motherboards can split the x16 slot into 4 x4 lanes.
3, So 4 acorns should be able to boost without bottlenecks 8 gpu's each on x2 pcie 2.0 slots.

Whats left todo.
4, Specs says the 2 bigger ones is not suited for ethash, is that just because they are OP for that, can you buy the bigger ones mine ethash now, and have that extra security when ethash goes pos?
5, In case of such a setup on most cheap boards the acorns would be on the processors pcie hub, and the gpu's on the chipsets pcie hub, they link together via dmi as faar as i remember, can it even handle these speeds?
6, Find some cheap motherboard with x8 slots.

Or am i on the complete wrong track here ?
member
Activity: 99
Merit: 10
July 13, 2018, 07:50:30 PM
Please clarify this in your description of the CLE-101

"Your GPU rigs can mine Ethash and CryptoNight V1 coins like Ethereum, Ethereum Classic, Monero or Electroneum better simply by adding Acorn CLE-101 to the mix."

Electroneum and Monero are not using the same algo/variant. Electroneum just forked back to being asic friendly because they weren't getting enough gpu miners to keep transactions fast and nicehash renters were taking advantage of the low diff by renting massive amounts of hash when it was low and leaving when it was high after they drove it up high.
legendary
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Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
July 13, 2018, 07:23:43 PM
I would have like to see you test the 4 card board.

At this moment I am just hoping they fix the error and credit me for the order made for the 2 card board and the 1 215+

The mineority had smoother orders and sold me an august batch.

the 215+ from squirrels is listed for september.

I can not justify  ordering september gear.  So I am done for now.

I did get an email from squirrels it was an auto bot.

I will let you know what they do about the canceled order and the funds I have paid.
sr. member
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July 13, 2018, 07:19:56 PM
I would have like to see you test the 4 card board.
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
July 13, 2018, 07:17:23 PM
@yankees

I had a ton of problems putting orders in today

as of this moment  my orders are not marked correctly.

first order did not go to coin payments I gave up and saw the option to get one from the mine0rity.

so 1 dead order of 1 215+
1 good order of 1 215+  this seems to be fully credited

I went back to order again I saw the option for the 2 card holder Could not find the option on themineority but it did make an order on squirrelsresearch
coin payments would not take the coin  so 2 dead orders on squirrels 1 good on themineority

I said f it went out and about tried again

said  I will order the 4 card holder and 1 2 card holder and 3x 215 +  came to 1250 usd I said too much on sites that just fuck up I canceled it.

so 2 dead orders that would not work with coin payments
1 cancelled order by me 1 good order to minority
I tried 1 last time

on squirrels placed a 2 card holder order and 1 215 +  about 440  and coin payments worked took my money.

and squirrels  canceled this order said I had 2 dead orders and a canceled one so we are cancelling this order

but I paid in btc and coin payments said deal with squirrels so I am in the following spot

780 or so made in btc 340  to themineority for 1 215+  seems good.

440 made to squirrels for 1 2 card holder and 1 215+   money is paid order is marked cancelled

too bad I had so many issues

sr. member
Activity: 464
Merit: 301
July 13, 2018, 07:01:08 PM
phil  that 2 card option looks good.  why not the 4 card one?
legendary
Activity: 4256
Merit: 8551
'The right to privacy matters'
July 13, 2018, 06:56:21 PM
Can someone clarify the requirement for Acorn in relation to PCIE bandwidth? I know the Acorn itself is M.2 but do the GPUs it accelerates have to be on full speed PCIE slots, ie. can Acorn accelerate GPUs that are on 1X risers?

I have AMD and NVIDIA rigs on Asrock BTC 110+ plus boards with various numbers of GPUs on them using 1x risers. This board has has an M.2 slot I can put an Acorn into but I am not clear if the Acorn requires the target GPUs to be on a faster PCIE connection

I am getting 2 acorn 215+  putting it into a pcie slot holder

I have plenty of boards with lots of slots.

this should be easy peasy.

I may just run  2 acorn miners like below


newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
July 13, 2018, 06:31:25 PM
Can someone clarify the requirement for Acorn in relation to PCIE bandwidth? I know the Acorn itself is M.2 but do the GPUs it accelerates have to be on full speed PCIE slots, ie. can Acorn accelerate GPUs that are on 1X risers?

I have AMD and NVIDIA rigs on Asrock BTC 110+ plus boards with various numbers of GPUs on them using 1x risers. This board has has an M.2 slot I can put an Acorn into but I am not clear if the Acorn requires the target GPUs to be on a faster PCIE connection

probably best to join the discord, I believe since every setup is a bit different it's hard to say:    https://discord.gg/jdw8jZB

THX- I am on this forum and Discord and finding it hard to navigate the info. I asked the same question in Discord and was referred to the FAQ, I think I will sit this one out
full member
Activity: 214
Merit: 100
July 13, 2018, 06:19:03 PM
Can someone clarify the requirement for Acorn in relation to PCIE bandwidth? I know the Acorn itself is M.2 but do the GPUs it accelerates have to be on full speed PCIE slots, ie. can Acorn accelerate GPUs that are on 1X risers?

I have AMD and NVIDIA rigs on Asrock BTC 110+ plus boards with various numbers of GPUs on them using 1x risers. This board has has an M.2 slot I can put an Acorn into but I am not clear if the Acorn requires the target GPUs to be on a faster PCIE connection

probably best to join the discord, I believe since every setup is a bit different it's hard to say:    https://discord.gg/jdw8jZB
newbie
Activity: 5
Merit: 0
July 13, 2018, 06:05:03 PM
Can someone clarify the requirement for Acorn in relation to PCIE bandwidth? I know the Acorn itself is M.2 but do the GPUs it accelerates have to be on full speed PCIE slots, ie. can Acorn accelerate GPUs that are on 1X risers?

I have AMD and NVIDIA rigs on Asrock BTC 110+ plus boards with various numbers of GPUs on them using 1x risers. This board has has an M.2 slot I can put an Acorn into but I am not clear if the Acorn requires the target GPUs to be on a faster PCIE connection
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