Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 51.

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Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on July 15, 2018, 10:08:08 PM

Just want to make sure I’ve got this right so far.

No word how these things boost pure ETH mining, if at all, right?

Read the fine website! There is a table below the Acorn products that tell you what kind of gains you might see.

If you are ONLY mining ETH, then the CLE-101 is the Acorn for you. And what it does is not so much give you huge boost in your hash rate, but reduce the power consumed.

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/faq/

On both pages above, scroll down for the details. On the first link, there is a table with info about hash rates and power use. On the second page (the FAQ) there are some answers about how many Acorns you would need based on type of card (low-/high-end).

So based on the numbers listed. Being conservative.

Say an 8GPU rig making 230MH ETH @1100w (what I have)
$0.12848 per kWh (what I have)
should use at minimum 2x CLE-101 @ cost of $400
Hashrate boost of 10% (250MH), power dropped to 75% (825W)

Power saving work out to be about $25 less per month. Money earned from an extra 20MH is another $0.65 or so
400/25.65 = about 15.5 months...

Seems like that $400 is put to better use just buying more cards

That’s exactly what I said, and this doesn’t factor in the price of new motherboards with more pcie lanes
mem and cpu

It works more for a guy like me I sold off a lot of gear in Jan and Feb

I have multiple empty mobos
I have many sticks of ram
I have a multitude of psu's
I have mucho cpu's

if a 2 card nest of acorn 215+ = 30mh and 30 watts stand alone on x16r cost is 775

compare it to a 1080ti which is about 20mh and 200watts cost is 700

now I went and looked at stock I have 4 biostar 1080ti's so I can do as many as 4 x 4 x 4 acorns that is 64 acorns = 20k

watts are under 1000
hash for x16r = 960mh

to be honest I would order a lot of these if they offer more stand alone mining choices.

I like x16r
but equihash 144,5 allows me to mine BTG bitcoin gold I would love that algorithm

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-gold/
https://bitcoingold.org/

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Quote from: Kryptowolf512 on July 16, 2018, 02:22:14 AM

So and why should i buy a Acorn Nest if i can get this? https://www.amazon.de/glotrends-PCIe-NVMe-Adapter-Support/dp/B075HZVG3X/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1531721898&sr=8-8&keywords=m.2+adapter
Way more cheaper Grin

Is the August batch over? Because if I want to preorder a Acorn, they tell me only september,october...

The x2G Nest has its own PCIe switch - eliminates a bandwidth bottleneck on the motherboard.

The card you're looking at only supports one Acorn; the second slot goes to SATA, not PCIe.

If August isn't available in the drop-down, it's sold out.

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trying to order a CLE 101 and the shopping cart is trying to charge me tax i live in the uk so shouldnt get charged tax and the cheapest shipping snail speed is $75 which is way overpriced for an item that prolly dont weigh more than 2 oz
i will get charged tax in the uk for the item and they put that on the shipping as well so will cost me around $328

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I've got two questions:

1/ Will an Acorn be utilised properly if the multi-gpu rig is only powered by a dual-core Celeron (with limited lanes)?

2/ How many GPUs can a CLE-101 give that 33% boost to in CNv1? There are no Acorn usage figures on the table on the website.

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Will this do any effect on VEGA 64 GPUs?

mallorcax

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Very interesting. I look forward to seeing the data.Test this board from the beginning is to accelerate the data by 50%. http://www.mallorcax.es/

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Quote from: Elder III on July 15, 2018, 11:29:55 PM

I'm very interested to see how many nests can be supported on a single motherboard. Theoretically it ought to work (as much as I can calculate anyways). I can't wait to get our shipment and start testing different configurations.

If your goal is just to make a setup with as manny acorns as posible running solo mining then you most likely wont need 4x for them each since they should not push any big data to the motherboard.
Futhermore even with gpu's in the mix using the nest2g cards the high throughput should stay on the pcie switch the nest2g card have and not reach the motherboard, but i guess noone know since i stated this multiple times but getting ignored Wink

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Quote from: R0land on July 16, 2018, 03:04:07 AM

Quote from: Morama on July 16, 2018, 02:33:43 AM

The performance improvement ist shown for a 1 Acorn for 1 1080 Ti setup for example - here (Scroll down in the able): http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/

How is the performance result for 1 Acorn for 5 1080 Tis for example? Is there still any improvement or is it like, I have to use 4 Acorns on 4 1080 Ti?
Or I misunderstood something?

1080 Ti ? They write 1 gpu ! Maybe (up to 100% Cheesy

) a RX550.

It´s like SoftRam ... as I said.

Yes that is my question. If I have a Rig of 4-5 1080 Ti ... how many Acorns I must use to accelerate X16R for example -> 4 to 5? Cheesy

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Quote from: Morama on July 16, 2018, 02:33:43 AM

The performance improvement ist shown for a 1 Acorn for 1 1080 Ti setup for example - here (Scroll down in the able): http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/

How is the performance result for 1 Acorn for 5 1080 Tis for example? Is there still any improvement or is it like, I have to use 4 Acorns on 4 1080 Ti?
Or I misunderstood something?

1080 Ti ? They write 1 gpu ! Maybe (up to 100% Cheesy

) a RX550.

It´s like SoftRam ... as I said.

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The performance improvement ist shown for a 1 Acorn for 1 1080 Ti setup for example - here (Scroll down in the able): http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/

How is the performance result for 1 Acorn for 5 1080 Tis for example? Is there still any improvement or is it like, I have to use 4 Acorns on 4 1080 Ti?
Or I misunderstood something?

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So and why should i buy a Acorn Nest if i can get this? https://www.amazon.de/glotrends-PCIe-NVMe-Adapter-Support/dp/B075HZVG3X/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1531721898&sr=8-8&keywords=m.2+adapter
Way more cheaper Grin

Is the August batch over? Because if I want to preorder a Acorn, they tell me only september,october...

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Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on July 16, 2018, 01:39:15 AM

Quote from: ZedZedNova on July 15, 2018, 10:54:19 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on July 15, 2018, 10:08:08 PM

Just want to make sure I’ve got this right so far.

No word how these things boost pure ETH mining, if at all, right?

Read the fine website! There is a table below the Acorn products that tell you what kind of gains you might see.

If you are ONLY mining ETH, then the CLE-101 is the Acorn for you. And what it does is not so much give you huge boost in your hash rate, but reduce the power consumed.

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/faq/

On both pages above, scroll down for the details. On the first link, there is a table with info about hash rates and power use. On the second page (the FAQ) there are some answers about how many Acorns you would need based on type of card (low-/high-end).

So based on the numbers listed. Being conservative.

Say an 8GPU rig making 230MH ETH @1100w (what I have)
$0.12848 per kWh (what I have)
should use at minimum 2x CLE-101 @ cost of $400
Hashrate boost of 10% (250MH), power dropped to 75% (825W)

Power saving work out to be about $25 less per month. Money earned from an extra 20MH is another $0.65 or so
400/25.65 = about 15.5 months...

Seems like that $400 is put to better use just buying more cards

That’s exactly what I said, and this doesn’t factor in the price of new motherboards with more pcie lanes
mem and cpu

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Quote from: ZedZedNova on July 15, 2018, 10:54:19 PM

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on July 15, 2018, 10:08:08 PM

Just want to make sure I’ve got this right so far.

No word how these things boost pure ETH mining, if at all, right?

Read the fine website! There is a table below the Acorn products that tell you what kind of gains you might see.

If you are ONLY mining ETH, then the CLE-101 is the Acorn for you. And what it does is not so much give you huge boost in your hash rate, but reduce the power consumed.

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/faq/

On both pages above, scroll down for the details. On the first link, there is a table with info about hash rates and power use. On the second page (the FAQ) there are some answers about how many Acorns you would need based on type of card (low-/high-end).

So based on the numbers listed. Being conservative.

Say an 8GPU rig making 230MH ETH @1100w (what I have)
$0.12848 per kWh (what I have)
should use at minimum 2x CLE-101 @ cost of $400
Hashrate boost of 10% (250MH), power dropped to 75% (825W)

Power saving work out to be about $25 less per month. Money earned from an extra 20MH is another $0.65 or so
400/25.65 = about 15.5 months...

Seems like that $400 is put to better use just buying more cards

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Quote from: vuli1 on July 15, 2018, 04:48:59 AM

I thiink on Z77 I had max Pci e 1.1 with Celeron and hd 6870. But on Z170 all RX are runing on 3.0 and 006 ver . eitherway, 1.0 is more than enough for mining cards. For Acron, not sure, didnt pay attention.

I have 4 or 5 z170 boards from biostar https://www.amazon.com/Biostar-RACING-Z170GT7-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B06XDKHN1S

I think that these boards with the nest x2g and acorn 215+ will be true beasts

This board may do four four card nests. 16 x 15 = 240 watts

16 x 15 = 240 hash

My board above can do

8x
8x
4x
4x

In the size 16 slots

That is like 12 1080tis which would use over 2000 watts

Costly as 16 x 330 = 5k and 520 for nests total of 5500

Could you add one more CLE-215+ in the M2 slot and make it 17x15?

Maybe will be testing slow but sure due to cost.

These 215+ are 330 each. But if each one does 15 at 15 watts on x16r. Compared to 20 at 200 watts for the 1080ti they will do well.

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Do you have before testing a very very rough estimate of the acceleration for a few algorithms ?
Otherwise will wait for the test obviously Smiley

Read the fine website: http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/
scroll down and read the table.

You will need to use your google-foo to locate hash rates for the various GPU cards listed, then it's simple math to figure out what you can get.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 08:37:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 11:26:53 AM

Quote from: vuli1 on July 15, 2018, 04:48:59 AM

I thiink on Z77 I had max Pci e 1.1 with Celeron and hd 6870. But on Z170 all RX are runing on 3.0 and 006 ver . eitherway, 1.0 is more than enough for mining cards. For Acron, not sure, didnt pay attention.

I have 4 or 5 z170 boards from biostar https://www.amazon.com/Biostar-RACING-Z170GT7-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B06XDKHN1S

I think that these boards with the nest x2g and acorn 215+ will be true beasts

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/717paUOjm4L._SL1024_.jpg

This board may do four four card nests. 16 x 15 = 240 watts

16 x 15 = 240 hash

That is like 12 1080tis which would use over 2000 watts

Costly as 16 x 330 = 5k and 520 for nests total of 5500

Could you add one more CLE-215+ in the M2 slot and make it 17x15?

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Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 15, 2018, 10:58:32 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 08:37:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 11:26:53 AM

Quote from: vuli1 on July 15, 2018, 04:48:59 AM

I thiink on Z77 I had max Pci e 1.1 with Celeron and hd 6870. But on Z170 all RX are runing on 3.0 and 006 ver . eitherway, 1.0 is more than enough for mining cards. For Acron, not sure, didnt pay attention.

I have 4 or 5 z170 boards from biostar https://www.amazon.com/Biostar-RACING-Z170GT7-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B06XDKHN1S

I think that these boards with the nest x2g and acorn 215+ will be true beasts

This board may do four four card nests. 16 x 15 = 240 watts

16 x 15 = 240 hash

That is like 12 1080tis which would use over 2000 watts

Costly as 16 x 330 = 5k and 520 for nests total of 5500

What a beautiful motherboard!

I'm very interested to see how many nests can be supported on a single motherboard. Theoretically it ought to work (as much as I can calculate anyways). I can't wait to get our shipment and start testing different configurations.

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Quote from: jmigdlc99 on July 15, 2018, 10:27:25 PM

Quote from: 64dimensions on July 12, 2018, 03:54:49 PM

For the Acorn accelerator, would the 480/470 class cards be interchangeable with their 580/570 counterparts?

Searched and back read a little, can't seem to find any answer to this yet.

Asking again because i have old rigs and am also interested in knowing if these acorns will also work on rx 470/480 GPUs and whether or not they will share close to, if not the similar, hashrates/improvements as the 570/580 series GPUs.

Yes the 470/480s are pretty similar. We’re doing testing on the older cards next week I believe (79xx and newer, 980s and newer.)

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 08:37:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 15, 2018, 11:26:53 AM

Quote from: vuli1 on July 15, 2018, 04:48:59 AM

I thiink on Z77 I had max Pci e 1.1 with Celeron and hd 6870. But on Z170 all RX are runing on 3.0 and 006 ver . eitherway, 1.0 is more than enough for mining cards. For Acron, not sure, didnt pay attention.

I have 4 or 5 z170 boards from biostar https://www.amazon.com/Biostar-RACING-Z170GT7-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B06XDKHN1S

I think that these boards with the nest x2g and acorn 215+ will be true beasts

This board may do four four card nests. 16 x 15 = 240 watts

16 x 15 = 240 hash

That is like 12 1080tis which would use over 2000 watts

Costly as 16 x 330 = 5k and 520 for nests total of 5500

What a beautiful motherboard!

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Ooh La La, C'est Zoom!

Quote from: gsrcrxsi314 on July 15, 2018, 10:08:08 PM

Just want to make sure I’ve got this right so far.

No word how these things boost pure ETH mining, if at all, right?

Read the fine website! There is a table below the Acorn products that tell you what kind of gains you might see.

If you are ONLY mining ETH, then the CLE-101 is the Acorn for you. And what it does is not so much give you huge boost in your hash rate, but reduce the power consumed.

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-101/

http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/faq/

On both pages above, scroll down for the details. On the first link, there is a table with info about hash rates and power use. On the second page (the FAQ) there are some answers about how many Acorns you would need based on type of card (low-/high-end).

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