Acorn M.2 FPGA based GPU Accelerator - page 62.

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Quote from: thunder.02dragon on June 10, 2018, 03:23:48 AM

Thanks to OhGodAGirl I found this thread, now I have some ques to ask, Kristy mentioned that this FPGA will be reducing the load from GPU for GPU demanding Keccak and others part (NonFP ) which most known algorithm uses - ETH/Equi/(ProgPOW if it becomes reality). That means if this can do say Keccak part at 15W then the GPU Power usage will drop significantly - as mentioned by Kristy again. So can you confirm in details? Also your in-house test say for a OC'ed RX580 how much power can you save?

I can understand that exact values are not possible at this point of time, but can you share estimated % on say a RX580? If I buy.... the power part will be the main driver and will help me decide. Would appreciate if you can share some info on this.

The 3 models are present I can understand - what's the diff between using all these three - if you don't talk about the speed then how they differ? Only Diff between these 3 I read was on memory side, how well they will perform from each other?

People who were concerned about the Acorn being a scam IMHO overlooked the above key post. OGAG in my opinion should already have a ton of street cred in the alt mining forum when it comes to GPU mining software/hardware hacks. With this post, my technical bullshit detector went to 0.

Going forward, my advice to people with no to little mining hardware experience is to at most just put a toe in the water and wait for the multi step YT videos on how to work with this stuff. Initial complications will probably revolve around the ususal miner software bugs and the bain of GPU mining, setting up the MB bios.

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Quote from: ripcurrent on July 11, 2018, 12:35:55 PM

Are there any motherboards available that have 8 or more x16 slots that are all 4x compliant?

Due to slot spacing it's not useful for us, but this exists: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c600/x10drx.cfm

Here's 11 1080tis on it: https://twitter.com/tomglimps/status/1015315683566145536

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Are there any motherboards available that have 8 or more x16 slots that are all 4x compliant?

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Quote from: KaydenC on July 11, 2018, 12:00:10 PM

Quote from: grendel25 on July 11, 2018, 11:29:11 AM

So just looking at the materials involved... what drives the price and how long before we see competition bringing lower prices? I imagine R&D, labor/personnel, maybe some factor for intellectual property is driving the current price. I also seem to recall somewhere that current prices are very low as it is with sales being made near cost. Then again, cost for that initial R&D can be quite high and cost for competitors -might- be much lower. The m.2 technology is well known with various articles on the topic. My guess is more pressure from Samsung and companies like Halong... Bitmain may remain in their comfort zone... or not.

GPUHoarder said pcie 3.0 versions of the acorns are being worked on.

Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 04, 2018, 11:39:28 PM

Why aren’t all cars on the road lambos?

PCIe 3.0 Chips are significantly more expensive, this is the right place on the cost/value curve today. But it is being worked on.

I'd guess there will be performance improvements with V2 with stable or slightly higher prices.

Imo it doesn't have to be cheap, but it must beat ROI and risk/reward of buying more GPUs and the added cost of extra/more expensive mobo and cpus.

I have reduced my gpus so much that I would not need to do anything but buy these and drop them in.

I have multiple boards that will do what I need to do.

I am mining btg which may do better or not since it is the 144.5 algo

I am mining x16r which has been said to work better.

There are finally a few photos.

and the parent company formally announced it is affiliated with the new company.

So this should be nice to see working in the field.

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Quote from: grendel25 on July 11, 2018, 11:29:11 AM

So just looking at the materials involved... what drives the price and how long before we see competition bringing lower prices? I imagine R&D, labor/personnel, maybe some factor for intellectual property is driving the current price. I also seem to recall somewhere that current prices are very low as it is with sales being made near cost. Then again, cost for that initial R&D can be quite high and cost for competitors -might- be much lower. The m.2 technology is well known with various articles on the topic. My guess is more pressure from Samsung and companies like Halong... Bitmain may remain in their comfort zone... or not.

GPUHoarder said pcie 3.0 versions of the acorns are being worked on.

Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 04, 2018, 11:39:28 PM

Why aren’t all cars on the road lambos?

PCIe 3.0 Chips are significantly more expensive, this is the right place on the cost/value curve today. But it is being worked on.

I'd guess there will be performance improvements with V2 with stable or slightly higher prices.

Imo it doesn't have to be cheap, but it must be priced to beat ROI and risk/reward of buying more GPUs and the added cost of extra/more expensive mobo and cpus.

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Quote from: OhHaiAndy on July 11, 2018, 11:00:36 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 11, 2018, 10:21:08 AM

And for all to see that the date is today the 11th of july 2018

sooooo my concerns were 100% valid and until today they were not addressed.

To op thanks for addressing them.

Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

I clearly explained the problem today he fixed it today with the press release.

The correct direction of endorsement is now established. Ie the corportation/LLC of airsquirrels.com claims to be the parent company of squirrelsresearch.com

While you may think is was done correctly before the press announcement made today it was not.

Much to the credit of David Stanfill and airsquirrels.com as soon as I voiced my concern in a clear manner they fixed it.

I would like to tell him I apologize for my lack of clarity about my concerns.

It is settled and to gpuhoarder thanks again.

@
grendel25 I noticed a chip from micron on the photo

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So just looking at the materials involved... what drives the price and how long before we see competition bringing lower prices? I imagine R&D, labor/personnel, maybe some factor for intellectual property is driving the current price. I also seem to recall somewhere that current prices are very low as it is with sales being made near cost. Then again, cost for that initial R&D can be quite high and cost for competitors -might- be much lower. The m.2 technology is well known with various articles on the topic. My guess is more pressure from Samsung and companies like Halong... Bitmain may remain in their comfort zone... or not.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 11, 2018, 10:21:08 AM

And for all to see that the date is today the 11th of july 2018

sooooo my concerns were 100% valid and until today they were not addressed.

To op thanks for addressing them.

Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

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Quote from: nsummy on July 11, 2018, 10:12:42 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on July 11, 2018, 10:04:07 AM

There is no doubt that airsquirrels.com is real and well established. opened up in 2009

I have yet to find that they endorse squirrelsresearch.com opened up in 2018

webutation.net of airsquirrels.com

So at op is it possible for airsquirrels.com

to mention it is the parent company of

squirrelsresearch.com

Mystery solved: https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/07/11/1535982/0/en/Squirrels-Inc-Expands-to-Support-New-Global-Hardware-Efforts.html

I guess if you doubt the validity of this press release you can always reach out to the contact listed at the bottom:

Sidney Keith
Squirrels LLC
[email protected]
O: 855-207-0927 ext. 7001

And for all to see that the date is today the 11th of july 2018

sooooo my concerns were 100% valid and until today they were not addressed.

To op thanks for addressing them.

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GPUHoarder, I feel for you brother, you are damned if you do, damned if you don't. If you don't speak of these until you take orders, you are accused of scamming. If you be transparent about the process and the hurdles you are going through, you are accused of scamming. Lets keep in mind this is all happening before money is taken and order accepted!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on July 11, 2018, 10:04:07 AM

There is no doubt that airsquirrels.com is real and well established. opened up in 2009

I have yet to find that they endorse squirrelsresearch.com opened up in 2018

webutation.net of airsquirrels.com

So at op is it possible for airsquirrels.com

to mention it is the parent company of

squirrelsresearch.com

Mystery solved: https://globenewswire.com/news-release/2018/07/11/1535982/0/en/Squirrels-Inc-Expands-to-Support-New-Global-Hardware-Efforts.html

I guess if you doubt the validity of this press release you can always reach out to the contact listed at the bottom:

Sidney Keith
Squirrels LLC
[email protected]
O: 855-207-0927 ext. 7001

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'The right to privacy matters'

There is no doubt that airsquirrels.com is real and well established. opened up in 2009

I have yet to find that they endorse squirrelsresearch.com opened up in 2018

webutation.net of airsquirrels.com

So at op is it possible for airsquirrels.com

to mention it is the parent company of

squirrelsresearch.com

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Shit so far Phil is right that all the referrals that airsquirrels.com is the parent company of squirrelsresearch.com come from squirrelsresearch.com

So this is an easy fix airsquirrels.com just needs to make a reference

on the airsquirrels.com website that they are the parent company of squirrelsresearch.com

that way the good established company from 2009 vouches for the unknown new 2018 company not the other way around.

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Quote from: lok8nusa on July 11, 2018, 09:21:14 AM

Quote from: http://squirrelsresearch.com/about/

Quote

Squirrels Research Labs (SQRL) is a sister company of Squirrels LLC under the Squirrels Inc. umbrella. SQRL focuses on hardware development and research projects that contribute to the overall success of the Squirrels brand.

Quote from: http://www.airsquirrels.com/about-us/

Quote

The founders of Squirrels LLC joined forces in 2008 to form a company called Napkin Studio. Together, they released one of the first 100 apps in the App Store. Napkin Studio created several successful apps and completed contract work for partners from coast to coast.

The company took a new direction in 2012 when it released two of the first screen-mirroring apps – Reflector and AirParrot -- into a large untapped market. The apps were a hit, and Napkin Studio became Squirrels LLC as the founders and employees focused their efforts on wireless collaboration and presentation technology.

and this is exact what is my problem and why I have been posting here over and over and over and over

this proves squirrelsresearch.com claims to belong to airsquirrels.com

but it does not prove airsquirrels.com acknowledged that is true.

squirrelsresearch.com is the company I question They claim this

they came to exist this year 2018
the op gpuhoarder started this year 2018

the good legit company airsquirrels.com

is much older like 2010 or something.

and this quote from their website talks about stuff that happened years ago.

dates like 2008 or 2012

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Quote from: GPUHoarder on July 11, 2018, 08:33:55 AM

Quote from: mfurman on July 11, 2018, 07:24:57 AM

I just realized that the biggest problem to incorporate Acorn into existing rigs is this:

"At launch, Acorn will work exclusivity with SQRL Miner. We'll provide an SDK and API documentation later this Fall for other miners to integrate Acorn support." I am not sure how this miner is going to to work with various pools or NiceHash, for instance.

Also, the longer I look at options the more confused I am getting about how Acorn (any model) is going to improve my ethash mining for GTX1080Ti with ETHlargement pill (53.5 MHs).
Could I please, get advice on this? Simply put, I am mostly interested in Ether mining with high end GPUs

It isn’t. It is not going to help you in a profitable way (other than maybe operating costs). You are looking for the wrong solution.

Saying it again - the same thing I said in the first post. ETH is supported but not the target. You will not see the 30 MH gain potential on ETH in the majority of cases. You can see it on Lyra2Rev2, X16r, and other algorithms where 30MH is a lot more.

Thank you very much for the clarification, GPUHoarder. Very much appreciated.
As it was said before, Acorn (any model) is not going to help much with ethash or CryptoNight. In reality, in case of someone only mining Ether it may be cheaper in a long run (and less hassle free) to add another GPU (especially with the low cost of electricity) than to get an Acorn. I like the miner though and I am going to get a CLE-215+ and a couple of CLE-101 to play with

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Quote from: http://squirrelsresearch.com/about/

Quote

Squirrels Research Labs (SQRL) is a sister company of Squirrels LLC under the Squirrels Inc. umbrella. SQRL focuses on hardware development and research projects that contribute to the overall success of the Squirrels brand.

Quote from: http://www.airsquirrels.com/about-us/

Quote

The founders of Squirrels LLC joined forces in 2008 to form a company called Napkin Studio. Together, they released one of the first 100 apps in the App Store. Napkin Studio created several successful apps and completed contract work for partners from coast to coast.

The company took a new direction in 2012 when it released two of the first screen-mirroring apps – Reflector and AirParrot -- into a large untapped market. The apps were a hit, and Napkin Studio became Squirrels LLC as the founders and employees focused their efforts on wireless collaboration and presentation technology.

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Quote from: lok8nusa on July 11, 2018, 07:58:28 AM

@philipma1957, run airsquirrels.com ('parent' company) through WhoIs.

I did that and they have been around a longer time.

I am still trying to be sure the two are linked.

I prefer to not have to do this but such is crypto mining.

Airsquirrels checks out at 100 on webutation.net

And most ratings are at 100

So I am a lot more happy with airsquirrels.com

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Quote from: mfurman on July 11, 2018, 07:24:57 AM

I just realized that the biggest problem to incorporate Acorn into existing rigs is this:

"At launch, Acorn will work exclusivity with SQRL Miner. We'll provide an SDK and API documentation later this Fall for other miners to integrate Acorn support." I am not sure how this miner is going to to work with various pools or NiceHash, for instance.

Also, the longer I look at options the more confused I am getting about how Acorn (any model) is going to improve my ethash mining for GTX1080Ti with ETHlargement pill (53.5 MHs).
Could I please, get advice on this? Simply put, I am mostly interested in Ether mining with high end GPUs

It isn’t. It is not going to help you in a profitable way (other than maybe operating costs). You are looking for the wrong solution.

Saying it again - the same thing I said in the first post. ETH is supported but not the target. You will not see the 30 MH gain potential on ETH in the majority of cases. You can see it on Lyra2Rev2, X16r, and other algorithms where 30MH is a lot more.

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