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July 12, 2018, 08:51:42 AM
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July 12, 2018, 08:45:28 AM
It seems not useful if mining Eth/XMR.
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July 12, 2018, 08:44:15 AM
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July 12, 2018, 08:43:23 AM

Testing performed on a system with one Acorn and one GPU.

* Gains from Acorn are based on preliminary data and may change prior to product shipment.

will do 750 at 158 watts  and I can boost four with the 215+


Before making any further assumptions and purchase decisions, one important information is missing:
How is SQRL-miner speed in comparison with respectable algo fastest miners? I assume increase factors are SQRL-mining hashrates with or without Acorn(s).
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July 12, 2018, 08:15:05 AM
legendary
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July 12, 2018, 07:55:25 AM
There's also a chart with two CLE-215+ and one gpu.


heh  I looked at the charts  and these acorns do huge boosts to 1050ti's  very impressive. even better for rx 560's


1050ti.....2.64x   +45%.....53%   1.97x   +18%   26%     the hash rate jumps  from 100 to 264 and power jumps 45%



1060.......2.11x   +15%.....93%   1.89x   +18%   39%
1070.......1.71x   +10%.....100%   1.92x   +7%     52%
1070ti......1.60x   +9%.......93%   1.82x   +7%     61%
1080........1.56x +8%......100%   1.74x   +8%     61%
1080ti......1.39x   +7%.......100%   1.76x   +5%    88%
RX550......2.64x+45%.....100%   2.31x   +50%   12%

RX560.....3.35x+20%......96%   2.49x   +32%   24%  the hash rate jumps from 100 to 335 and power jumps 20%

RX570   2.08x+12%.....100%   2.51x   +9%     42%
RX580   1.85x+8%.......100%   2.60x   +6%     61%
Vega 56   1.44x+5%.......100%   2.55x   +5%    94%
Vega 64   1.36X+5%.......100%   2.36x   +4%    100%


THREAD-RIPPER 1950X   

Testing performed on a system with one Acorn and one GPU.

* Gains from Acorn are based on preliminary data and may change prior to product shipment.


As I read this with a 1050ti 53% of the acorn 215+ is used  so a 215+ will cover 2 1050ti's  at pretty much full strength at max setting












This is an error
but on a 1050ti on a lower setting i go from 100% to 197% hash and can cover 4x  1050ti's with a power jump of only 18%

the rx 560 is really nice on the lower setting 1 acorn cover 4 rx560's

jumps hash from 100% to 249% and power cost is 32% more

so I turn 4 rx 560's into 4rx 580's and use less power am I correct here?


AMD Radeon RX560 2/4GB Graphics Card for Monero Mining
 

XMR Mining hashrate   300 H/s   Overclocked XMR Mining hashrate   N/A
Power consumption   120 W   Recommended PSU Power   500 W
GPU Temperature    63 C   Memory   4 GB
Memory Interface   GDDR5   Bus Support


will do 750 at 158 watts  and I can boost four with the 215+

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July 12, 2018, 07:25:48 AM
There's also a chart with two CLE-215+ and one gpu.
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July 12, 2018, 07:20:15 AM
Squirrels are releases numbers Smiley .. http://www.squirrelsresearch.com/acorn-cle-215-plus/

There are results for one Acron and one GPU.
Will be nice too see comparision table for one/two acrons and more GPUs.
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July 12, 2018, 07:07:00 AM
What do you guys think of the numbers of Lyra2Rev2 for both CLE-215 and CLE-215+ ? I am still calculating the cost but I have my doubts. You really need two CLE-215+ for higher end cards and that it will cost $660 (the cost of GTX1080Ti - the prices of which will drop soon)

It's great for efficiency. Not so much for price performance considering you can only fit 3x 1080ti and 6 acorns on a threadripper board. That's $700 USD in mobo/cpu.

I can run 8x 1080ti on $140 8 slot riserless mobo with $40 cpu, not 3, but 8 x 1080ti.

What's lacking is a proper epyc or threadripper mobo to take advantage of acorns.
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July 12, 2018, 07:00:21 AM
What do you guys think of the numbers of Lyra2Rev2 for both CLE-215 and CLE-215+ ? I am still calculating the cost but I have my doubts. You really need two CLE-215+ for higher end cards and that it will cost $660 (the cost of GTX1080Ti - the prices of which will drop soon). It is not that profitable to mine with Lyra2Rev2 these days.
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July 11, 2018, 07:20:58 PM
You are very correct that there is no harm in further establishing identity, and I am all about having multiple confirmations of the information. It just sounded to me that he was saying there was not yet a legitimate confirmation. It has already been well established in this thread that most of the information and activity about these products takes place in the discord. All the facts that I stated have been confirmed via the discord many times. On top of that, this has all been confirmed in the interview that GPUHoarder did.

So please don't take my reply to say that I think the press release is meaningless, I am just expressing that with minimal effort this was easily confirmed. I'm not legendary on these forums, and I'm relatively new to crypto compared to you guys, but I was able to find this information out very easily.

Fair enough. I prefer things to be confirmed right here though. Not everyone wants or trusts discord. And unless discord does KYC any verification on there is about as meaningless as an anonymous account on this forum claiming to be someone. This has nothing to do with legendaries, which is also not an indication of trust in any way. Just some healthy skepticism.

philipma1957 on the other hand is one of the most trusted people on this forum with his real life identity known etc so any business trying to do anything here would be well advised to listen to him when it comes to things like this.

Having said that, identity verification shouldn't be taken as a guarantee of trustworthiness either. Many things can go wrong here. Now at least we'll know who needs to be sued if that happens Smiley

Look Last time I found a big issue it was GAW miners  I exposed the flaw in their nicehash/westhash miners.   It was the first real chink in their armor and I received multiple emails and pms from them that I considered thinly veiled threats.

I remember that. Garza is awaiting sentencing now. Karma is a fine lady.

To be clear airsquirrels.com has been perfectly polite to me via email  the email is in this thread above.  GPUHOARDER was 100% accommodating when I explained the vetting issue that I had.

He cleared it up in under 1 hour's time by issuing the press release today.  So I will buy 1 of each Acorn 2 model and have some fun with them.
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July 11, 2018, 06:22:05 PM
You are very correct that there is no harm in further establishing identity, and I am all about having multiple confirmations of the information. It just sounded to me that he was saying there was not yet a legitimate confirmation. It has already been well established in this thread that most of the information and activity about these products takes place in the discord. All the facts that I stated have been confirmed via the discord many times. On top of that, this has all been confirmed in the interview that GPUHoarder did.

So please don't take my reply to say that I think the press release is meaningless, I am just expressing that with minimal effort this was easily confirmed. I'm not legendary on these forums, and I'm relatively new to crypto compared to you guys, but I was able to find this information out very easily.

Fair enough. I prefer things to be confirmed right here though. Not everyone wants or trusts discord. And unless discord does KYC any verification on there is about as meaningless as an anonymous account on this forum claiming to be someone. This has nothing to do with legendaries, which is also not an indication of trust in any way. Just some healthy skepticism.

philipma1957 on the other hand is one of the most trusted people on this forum with his real life identity known etc so any business trying to do anything here would be well advised to listen to him when it comes to things like this.

Having said that, identity verification shouldn't be taken as a guarantee of trustworthiness either. Many things can go wrong here. Now at least we'll know who needs to be sued if that happens Smiley

Look Last time I found a big issue it was GAW miners  I exposed the flaw in their nicehash/westhash miners.   It was the first real chink in their armor and I received multiple emails and pms from them that I considered thinly veiled threats.

I remember that. Garza is awaiting sentencing now. Karma is a fine lady.
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'The right to privacy matters'
July 11, 2018, 06:04:08 PM
Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

We already had one FPGA scam (Dwarf) recently and I'm sure there will be others. There is no harm in establishing the identity in more than one way. I've seen David's name mentioned but I don't recall any actual proof and I do follow these FPGA threads. So Phil's concern was 100% valid and now we have something to refer to if this question comes up again.

You are very correct that there is no harm in further establishing identity, and I am all about having multiple confirmations of the information. It just sounded to me that he was saying there was not yet a legitimate confirmation. It has already been well established in this thread that most of the information and activity about these products takes place in the discord. All the facts that I stated have been confirmed via the discord many times. On top of that, this has all been confirmed in the interview that GPUHoarder did.

So please don't take my reply to say that I think the press release is meaningless, I am just expressing that with minimal effort this was easily confirmed. I'm not legendary on these forums, and I'm relatively new to crypto compared to you guys, but I was able to find this information out very easily.

But I am defending this site not discord or youtube.

I watched the youtube video and I can tell you in a court of law it would not be proof  the airsquirrels.com is the parent company of squirrels research.com

It would be proof that the interviewee said that airsquirrels.com is the parent company

today's press release would be proof that airqsuirrels.com is the parent company

at least  IMO.

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July 11, 2018, 05:30:36 PM
Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

We already had one FPGA scam (Dwarf) recently and I'm sure there will be others. There is no harm in establishing the identity in more than one way. I've seen David's name mentioned but I don't recall any actual proof and I do follow these FPGA threads. So Phil's concern was 100% valid and now we have something to refer to if this question comes up again.

You are very correct that there is no harm in further establishing identity, and I am all about having multiple confirmations of the information. It just sounded to me that he was saying there was not yet a legitimate confirmation. It has already been well established in this thread that most of the information and activity about these products takes place in the discord. All the facts that I stated have been confirmed via the discord many times. On top of that, this has all been confirmed in the interview that GPUHoarder did.

So please don't take my reply to say that I think the press release is meaningless, I am just expressing that with minimal effort this was easily confirmed. I'm not legendary on these forums, and I'm relatively new to crypto compared to you guys, but I was able to find this information out very easily.
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'The right to privacy matters'
July 11, 2018, 05:09:32 PM
Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

We already had one FPGA scam (Dwarf) recently and I'm sure there will be others. There is no harm in establishing the identity in more than one way. I've seen David's name mentioned but I don't recall any actual proof and I do follow these FPGA threads. So Phil's concern was 100% valid and now we have something to refer to if this question comes up again.

   Look Last time I found a big issue it was GAW miners  I exposed the flaw in their nicehash/westhash miners.   It was the first real chink in their armor and I received multiple emails and pms from them that I considered thinly veiled threats.

  We have had multiple scammers this year. right on this site.  I should have been more clear what was bugging me and a as soon as  explained what I found wrong they jumped on it and did do a proper press release .  This is a real indicator that they are legit.  It also means they will be one of the very few USA based mining builders.  I like this and I look forward to playing with this gear.



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July 11, 2018, 02:25:24 PM
Just because you personally did not receive a direct reply, does not make your concerns 100% valid. David Stanfill is GPUHoarder. That's been confirmed by him multiple times. He is a co-founder of Squirrels, LLC. He has publicly stated many times that Squirrelsresearch.com is endorsed and a sister company to Squirrels. This was all public knowledge for quite a while now. So the press release is nice, but this wasn't rocket science.

We already had one FPGA scam (Dwarf) recently and I'm sure there will be others. There is no harm in establishing the identity in more than one way. I've seen David's name mentioned but I don't recall any actual proof and I do follow these FPGA threads. So Phil's concern was 100% valid and now we have something to refer to if this question comes up again.
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July 11, 2018, 01:54:30 PM
Are there any motherboards available that have 8 or more x16 slots that are all 4x compliant?

Due to slot spacing it's not useful for us, but this exists: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c600/x10drx.cfm

Here's 11 1080tis on it: https://twitter.com/tomglimps/status/1015315683566145536

Thank you for taking the time to reply...have a great day.
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July 11, 2018, 01:30:06 PM
Thanks to OhGodAGirl I found this thread, now I have some ques to ask, Kristy mentioned that this FPGA will be reducing the load from GPU for GPU demanding Keccak and others part (NonFP ) which most known algorithm uses - ETH/Equi/(ProgPOW if it becomes reality). That means if this can do say Keccak part at 15W then the GPU Power usage will drop significantly - as mentioned by Kristy again. So can you confirm in details? Also your in-house test say for a OC'ed RX580 how much power can you save?

I can understand that exact values are not possible at this point of time, but can you share estimated % on say a RX580? If I buy.... the power part will be the main driver and will help me decide. Would appreciate if you can share some info on this.

The 3 models are present I can understand - what's the diff between using all these three - if you don't talk about the speed then how they differ? Only Diff between these 3 I read was on memory side, how well they will perform from each other?


People who were concerned about the Acorn being a scam IMHO overlooked the above key post. OGAG in my opinion should already have a ton of street cred in the alt mining forum when it comes to GPU mining software/hardware hacks. With this post, my technical bullshit detector went to 0.

Going forward, my advice to people with no to little mining hardware experience is to at most just put a toe in the water and wait for the multi step YT videos on how to work with this stuff. Initial complications will probably revolve around the ususal miner software bugs and the bain of GPU mining, setting up the MB bios.

Normally I would not have bothered to vet this much.

But  I had multiple people ask me via email to check it out.

And every where I looked  endorsements were not in the following direction. Airsquirrels.com(parent) to squirrelsresearch.com (NEW STARTUP)


THERE were multiple people telling me they are real  but I was not able to get the one above until today.  I suppose I need to email


Sidney Keith
Squirrels LLC
[email protected]
O: 855-207-0927 ext. 7001


for a full and final due diligence.


and sent the email  to confirm report.

Fully vetted press release checked and that is all she wrote:

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July 11, 2018, 01:16:17 PM
Are there any motherboards available that have 8 or more x16 slots that are all 4x compliant?

Due to slot spacing it's not useful for us, but this exists: https://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/xeon/c600/x10drx.cfm

Here's 11 1080tis on it: https://twitter.com/tomglimps/status/1015315683566145536

How is Supermicro motherboard/bios compatibility with M.2 on PCIe board, do you know?
I have a couple of Xeon systems on these boards that I would like to test as well?
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
July 11, 2018, 01:10:53 PM
Thanks to OhGodAGirl I found this thread, now I have some ques to ask, Kristy mentioned that this FPGA will be reducing the load from GPU for GPU demanding Keccak and others part (NonFP ) which most known algorithm uses - ETH/Equi/(ProgPOW if it becomes reality). That means if this can do say Keccak part at 15W then the GPU Power usage will drop significantly - as mentioned by Kristy again. So can you confirm in details? Also your in-house test say for a OC'ed RX580 how much power can you save?

I can understand that exact values are not possible at this point of time, but can you share estimated % on say a RX580? If I buy.... the power part will be the main driver and will help me decide. Would appreciate if you can share some info on this.

The 3 models are present I can understand - what's the diff between using all these three - if you don't talk about the speed then how they differ? Only Diff between these 3 I read was on memory side, how well they will perform from each other?


People who were concerned about the Acorn being a scam IMHO overlooked the above key post. OGAG in my opinion should already have a ton of street cred in the alt mining forum when it comes to GPU mining software/hardware hacks. With this post, my technical bullshit detector went to 0.

Going forward, my advice to people with no to little mining hardware experience is to at most just put a toe in the water and wait for the multi step YT videos on how to work with this stuff. Initial complications will probably revolve around the ususal miner software bugs and the bain of GPU mining, setting up the MB bios.

Normally I would not have bothered to vet this much.

But  I had multiple people ask me via email to check it out.

And every where I looked  endorsements were not in the following direction. Airsquirrels.com(parent) to squirrelsresearch.com (NEW STARTUP)


THERE were multiple people telling me they are real  but I was not able to get the one above until today.  I suppose I need to email


Sidney Keith
Squirrels LLC
[email protected]
O: 855-207-0927 ext. 7001


for a full and final due diligence.


and sent the email  to confirm report.
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