Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 252. (Read 630051 times)

Most of your added questions would be answered in a quarterly financial report. We should ask for that.

Bolded questions : Questions I added.

I would also like to know what is the plan moving forward. Though I would rather any of the above questions be answer over this one.

I have a demand to add to the questions:

Ken please payout shareholder dividends NOW

at this point this is the only way he can prove to us that our shares are ours.

I'll compile the list of question.....  

Please PM me your question or quote this and i'll edit.

My two I want answered in full and promptly:

1.  What is the status of our shares?
2.  How many bitcoins were on MtGox and why where they there to begin with?
3.  How much did ActM lose on the cancelled 55nm deal?
3.1 Were the 55nm ever even taped out? Do you have any proof of their existence?
3.2 How much money does ACTM have?
3.3 How much money did ACTM lose in the 28nm eAsic failure?
4. Who is on the payroll (What companies are you currently working with and how many people (and who) currently work at VMC/AMC)

meaning if you have shares of ASICMiner you get dividends paid out.  no questions asked.  if you have shares of ActM you get nothing except a few words from Ken which generally translate to "we're giving 110%" (which is impossible).

i see no one has taken on making/compiling a list of questions for Ken to answer for tomorrow's update, so I expect very little to be said/communicated.

Meaning what? Another update about nothing and then on Thursday a news article saying that the 28nm is canceled and now were back to the 55nm. We don't even get news from Ken anymore we find out via news articles via a 3rd party. Get your head out of the sand and wake up we never learn anything of use from the Wed updates.

Tomorrow is Wednesday.

Man did I pick a dud.

It's such a FUCKEN joke that Ken claims all this non-news and secrecy due to protecting some kind of amazing dealings behind doors at ACTM all these months.

It's obvious at this point the only thing he's been protecting has been his absolute ineptness at actually doing any of this… Watching that awful video in last weeks news leak shows just how ineffectual he is at conveying any command over this endeavor… (in all respect, just stating the obvious.)

There is no more fucking NDA with easic, there is no need to be "secretive" anymore because the plain fact is: there is no company stupid enough to want to commit industrial espionage with ACTM because ACTM has only proven itself to be an utterly dismal failure… one after another.

Come clean Ken and spare us anymore dragging out of the inevitable.

Ken please payout shareholder dividends NOW

@Ken


to Zum. It's fine that you are moderating the thread, that is 100%. I give you an A+ on that, though my word means little.

The problem is that you seem to see no flaw in Ken's apparent incompetence whether he is feigning it or not. Zum the 55nm was the bread and butter for the last month. The entire last 28 days was all about the 55nm. We find out at the end of the month that the 55nm is scraped and now we have to wait till Mid-End March just to hear about these 28nms. He doesn't elaborate on why the 55nm was cancelled. (Oh we lost money in Gox and they might not generate profit until BTC is worth $900). Ok if this is true.. tell us how much money we have lost in Gox and how much money we have left.

There is no way a sane person can be optimistic when they have no information, and the stuff we do find out through the grapevines is ALL BAD information. No good information, none what so ever.

Take the fucking list, contact Havelock, and add all shares on havelock. That's it. Should take 1 day tops? I can't phantom my head around what you are doing all day.

If you don't like this solution, do it the ASIC way tied to bitcoin address, with who knows someone opening a potential pass-through on havelock.

Listen, I am not critiquing you on how you run your business, if you feel whatever business decision you made lately is the right choice, fine, it's your company. But the hostage taking of our shares is just not right, and has dragged out way too long. I recently read you say the business day-to-day has priority over this.

Well, I disagree. The amount of work involved to fix this is really minor, and it would settle down the crowd a lot and push the company forward. Look, even if share price takes a drop, it's tradeable, it's investable, and it can rise again sooner or later. But the way you are locking our shares until the business is thriving or we go under with the ship, which is what it looks like is happening right now, is just unacceptable.

In conclusion, it is our god damn right to have access to our shares. Above all. Yes Above all.

Just like I said I was going to?

You go ahead and run amok.  out

How many ActM bitcoins were left (now lost) in Mt Gox?

^ Simple question repeated by several shareholders. Please can KS confirm?

When is the next "deadline" (so I can safely ignore this thread for a while)? Is it really three weeks? Is three weeks the new two weeks^TM, because it's sure starting to look like it.

EDIT: zumzero - do keep up the good work removing the troll posts, but probably a good idea to do it quietly. Your continued optimism is... unsettling.

You are the most optimistic Scotsman I have ever known Zum.

If it wasn't for me, this thread wouldn't exist.  My efforts have provided shareholders with somewhere to voice their concerns.  Somewhere they have a voice without being drowned out by trolls.  So don't go telling me I delete unfairly when I spent 8 hours locked in battle with crumbs on Sunday and personally deleted hundreds of his posts!  

Personally I am amazed that some of you couldn't join the dots when all you have to look at is the first page of comments.  I practically announced on the old thread that I was going to create this one inspired by a suggestion from minerpart, 'cause that's what I do.  I get things done in an attempt to improve our situation instead of sitting back and gobbing off about how the minority opinions are unjustified.

I'm going to continue deleting troll posts and I will continue not deleting posts of people whom I have little respect for and a growing dislike of.

I am not the only person keeping this thread clean from trolls.  It is an international team of respected shareholders working together 24 hours a day.

Finally, I will back off for a bit now as this thread has become more about me and less about ActM.  I genuinely do not want this attention.  I just want you all to know that there are real possibilities that exist beyond the crowd mentality of pitchforks which I see going on here.

It's a joke.

Ken comes on here (Right after we find out the 55nm was cancelled, that he didn't tell us about) and says like 2 sentences and that's enough for Zumzero to be extremely relieved by what Ken says. Ken doesn't formally apologize, he cleanly states, (though not his actual word for word) "I did not want you guys to find out yet.".

He even shows more negligence by having money in Mt. Gox or cleanly lying about it. Whose money was in Gox anyways? Was it Ken's or ACTM, is he using ACTM to cover his lost? Why was ACTM money in Gox? How much is lost?

GJP comes on here and says "Oh yeah I called Ken, great news in 3 Weeks." and we're supposed to eat this up too.

Then Zum starts deleting posts that point out all the faults of this company.

It's not trolls, it's not FUD, it's the actual investors who are saying "Ken, what the fuck are you doing?" and I think they deserve to have their message preserved until Ken answers it. Stop deleting post from people who have been here for a couple months because they have money in this shit.

I would definitely prefer less (soon to be broken) promises from Kens and more numbers.

"I am growing more and more concerned by the" fact that Zumzero and gjpminingco are still posting nothing negative and 100% stand behind Ken and his continued mismanagement of this "company" (or companies at it were).  VinceSamios and Bargraphics I believe are 2 of the wielders of the power to delete posts, and only have positive things to say.  Bargraphics is recently no where to be found except for a few postings for Labrat, and for his statements in that news article that was sprung on us this weekend (http://www.news-leader.com/article/20140302/BUSINESS04/303020022/Bitcoin-Springfield-mining-machines-Slaughter).  did anyone else catch the fact that Ken said the combined total of the mining from the Avalons and Klondikes was 700 MH/s?  this isnt his 1st misstep, and DEFINITELY not his biggest, with trying to communicate basic technical aspects of bitcoin, mining, ActM's products, shares, anything, etc.  Why is there no question of your loyalty to him and/or his abilities after 1 year of continued failures?

"If this continues, I shall be suggesting a restriction on" people that only post positive outlooks and do not have a grasp on reality.  what has happened over the past year with these ActM "companies" has been astounding.  no real world company could be able to continue to announce new product and cancel those products only to announce new product that is "better" and still expect to stay in business or have any supporters.  if you cannot admit there has been even a little problem, then you cannot learn and cannot grow and cannot succeed.  As I feared this thread seems to solve nothing as it is moderated by those who cannot see failures for what they are.

based on his comment below, it would seem that Zumzero has the deletion power as well...

hi

i have been sitting quite and patiently waiting for months+ for ken to list us on CT.

but now i'am glad he didn't list us on CT, but the long wait caused me to nibble away my finger tip flesh.

ken, i would like this solution for shares, make it direct shares connected to our public bitcoin address from bitfunder (keep CT share out of it)
then you can release our accumulated dividends.

this solution is like colored coins with no trade function. am i correct guys?

if when colored coins comes up, you still have our bitfunder shareholder list, and can still transfer us.

actually, we are already in direct share mode, if we think about it. just the bitcoin address signing is needed, then we are done and can wait happily for color coins.

thank you

edit: if you also can't give us direct share, is it the same problem you couldn't go ahead with listing on CT?
if colored coins is released, would you still be able list us?

if so, what is making you hold up? isn't all the matters solved?

also i believe he has alot time on hands, to easily give us direct shares, while we wait, think and VOTE for direct shares guys(ofcourse temporarily)