I don't care how low their post counts are, all of their points are perfectly valid and I agree with most of what they have said.
Topic: [ActiveMining] Official Shareholder Discussion Thread [Moderated] - page 253. (Read 630051 times)
March 04, 2014, 10:07:42 AM
March 04, 2014, 10:01:53 AM
I don't care how low their post counts are, all of their points are perfectly valid and I agree with most of what they have said.
March 04, 2014, 09:02:10 AM
About censorship in this thread:
Most people these days probably haven't noticed the tenacity of one very sad troll. This person posts literally 1000 posts in a single day from multiple accounts and there are a bunch of us deleting those posts as soon as possible. It is not unusual for there to be 50 posts per minute - I'm sure the other guys modding this thread will back me up on this.
So - if your post gets deleted and you are not a troll, it's nothing personal, it is unintentional, please re-post.
I've know I've personally accidentally deleted a few posts from legit users, hell even some from the mod team, it's indiscriminate by accident.
The mod team are supportive of genuine investors with genuine criticisms. There is a low tolerance for trolling, but we are not suppressing negative posts. Hell we're even posting some ourselves. This thread appears far more positive than previous threads because the troll element has been smashed - removing the flood of negativity.
Just wanted to make you all aware of that, and if anyone has a problem with a specific post being deleted please PM me.
Most people these days probably haven't noticed the tenacity of one very sad troll. This person posts literally 1000 posts in a single day from multiple accounts and there are a bunch of us deleting those posts as soon as possible. It is not unusual for there to be 50 posts per minute - I'm sure the other guys modding this thread will back me up on this.
So - if your post gets deleted and you are not a troll, it's nothing personal, it is unintentional, please re-post.
I've know I've personally accidentally deleted a few posts from legit users, hell even some from the mod team, it's indiscriminate by accident.
The mod team are supportive of genuine investors with genuine criticisms. There is a low tolerance for trolling, but we are not suppressing negative posts. Hell we're even posting some ourselves. This thread appears far more positive than previous threads because the troll element has been smashed - removing the flood of negativity.
Just wanted to make you all aware of that, and if anyone has a problem with a specific post being deleted please PM me.
March 04, 2014, 09:00:34 AM
I am growing more and more concerned by the growing number of posters who seem to be well informed and yet have such low post counts. I do not believe that we should censor people for this reason alone but believe that certain trolls have worked out that they can still have a voice in this thread if they 'play by the rules'.
If you are genuine, by all means voice your opinions as you wish, however give some thought to what you post as things like conspiracy theories create the impression you are simply trying to undermine the company by fuelling the already highly critical condemnation which already exists. If you want to shoot the company down in flames you can, but post more than just that opinion, explain why you feel that way and perhaps offer a suggestion as to how things could be improved.
If this continues, I shall be suggesting a restriction on immature accounts similar to the now removed 'newbies' section this forum hosted, which would allow the ActM pseudo-admins to monitor posting history in order to weed out potential trouble makers.
If you are genuine, by all means voice your opinions as you wish, however give some thought to what you post as things like conspiracy theories create the impression you are simply trying to undermine the company by fuelling the already highly critical condemnation which already exists. If you want to shoot the company down in flames you can, but post more than just that opinion, explain why you feel that way and perhaps offer a suggestion as to how things could be improved.
If this continues, I shall be suggesting a restriction on immature accounts similar to the now removed 'newbies' section this forum hosted, which would allow the ActM pseudo-admins to monitor posting history in order to weed out potential trouble makers.
To be fair, even if the person behind the newer accounts is a troll, if the points that they bring up are legitimate I would be against censoring them (the whole message vs. messenger thing).
March 04, 2014, 08:07:10 AM
I am growing more and more concerned by the growing number of posters who seem to be well informed and yet have such low post counts. I do not believe that we should censor people for this reason alone but believe that certain trolls have worked out that they can still have a voice in this thread if they 'play by the rules'.
If you are genuine, by all means voice your opinions as you wish, however give some thought to what you post as things like conspiracy theories create the impression you are simply trying to undermine the company by fuelling the already highly critical condemnation which already exists. If you want to shoot the company down in flames you can, but post more than just that opinion, explain why you feel that way and perhaps offer a suggestion as to how things could be improved.
If this continues, I shall be suggesting a restriction on immature accounts similar to the now removed 'newbies' section this forum hosted, which would allow the ActM pseudo-admins to monitor posting history in order to weed out potential trouble makers.
If you are genuine, by all means voice your opinions as you wish, however give some thought to what you post as things like conspiracy theories create the impression you are simply trying to undermine the company by fuelling the already highly critical condemnation which already exists. If you want to shoot the company down in flames you can, but post more than just that opinion, explain why you feel that way and perhaps offer a suggestion as to how things could be improved.
If this continues, I shall be suggesting a restriction on immature accounts similar to the now removed 'newbies' section this forum hosted, which would allow the ActM pseudo-admins to monitor posting history in order to weed out potential trouble makers.
March 04, 2014, 07:52:42 AM
At this point is there even a point to continue with this venue ? How about to get as much our cash back and distribute it amongst shareholders? Mining is really not that profitable anymore that it would be worth risking even more. We are out of that 55nm and 28 if iam correct so this should be perfect timing right ?
March 04, 2014, 04:42:23 AM
Someone needs to be that optimistic to balance the overwhelming pessimism from posts like yours. I am not related to Ken and I have never met him. I have never spoken with him. I have only exchanged PM's on this website. I have a British passport, live I Scotland and have been in the US twice in my life way before Bitcoin was created.
I am suspicious of your posts and monitoring your contributions.
I was actively monitoring and looking for your posts during the previous thread and you seemed to be the only voice of reason among a sea of trolls and trollish posts. Thank you for that, but umm...
I just don't understand how you can be so optimistic at this point, when the only good news we (apparently) have is that someone has spoken to Ken and told us "hang tight for 3 weeks, good news coming". I mean I have been lurking since the IPO and only now did I feel that I needed to create an account and voice my concerns. (I have very little trust in this site due to previous security hiccups). Surely you can't be that happy/unconcerned with the current state of affairs?
March 04, 2014, 04:22:44 AM
So are we now able to see the proof of 55nm tapeout?
How was the "February" production run cancelled on the LAST days of the month?
My biggest concern here though would be money. Where on earth are we getting money to fund a 28nm chip if all the pre-order $ is being kept for refunds? We have apparently had coins lost on mtgox (the exact amount needs to be clarified), and IPO funds have been used on 2 different projects while we have 3 (if not more) people on salary. Shareholders need to see a detailed financial report and be able to trade shares soon or this is going to go downhill fast, it's already a PR disaster.
sidenote: I cant imagine a 28nm announcement would be such "good news" unless there is proof from a third party. The excuse of shareholders bugging our suppliers is no longer valid if Ken can't stick to a plan for more than a month.
How was the "February" production run cancelled on the LAST days of the month?
My biggest concern here though would be money. Where on earth are we getting money to fund a 28nm chip if all the pre-order $ is being kept for refunds? We have apparently had coins lost on mtgox (the exact amount needs to be clarified), and IPO funds have been used on 2 different projects while we have 3 (if not more) people on salary. Shareholders need to see a detailed financial report and be able to trade shares soon or this is going to go downhill fast, it's already a PR disaster.
sidenote: I cant imagine a 28nm announcement would be such "good news" unless there is proof from a third party. The excuse of shareholders bugging our suppliers is no longer valid if Ken can't stick to a plan for more than a month.
This +1
I don't own a ton of shares, ~8k, but there has been no concrete proof of anything. How about a pic/screenshot of the invoice/credit note from the tapeout (remove any company related logos/branding, if you are scared investors/trolls will contact them)?
I suspect in the coming days or weeks that Ken will put more of his shares on some trading platform so that he can "recover" the lost gox coins. Our shares will still not be available to us.
If there is no concrete evidence or solid news or any REAL answers to the questions posted in the last couple of days, I will have to take legal action, I see no other way.
March 04, 2014, 04:21:03 AM
I don't think this started out as a scam but has simply turned into one through Ken's incompetence and failure to be able to achieve what he thought he could at the start. When the price hiked late last year and Ken found out he had totally screwed up the eAsic chip design he realised he could refund all the orders and still have made a fiat profit. He is now just doing the same thing all over again hoping the bitcoin price will spike again so he can refund any of the orders for the 55nm chips that he had listed on the website. We will never see a chip but Ken will keep repeating the same scam every time the price hikes.
It's going to be hilarious when Ken turns round next week with Bitcoin back at $900 and be like oh yeah we are doing 55nm again but we missed our slot with UMC so chips won't be here till September.
It's going to be hilarious when Ken turns round next week with Bitcoin back at $900 and be like oh yeah we are doing 55nm again but we missed our slot with UMC so chips won't be here till September.
March 04, 2014, 03:46:07 AM
Someone needs to be that optimistic to balance the overwhelming pessimism from posts like yours. I am not related to Ken and I have never met him. I have never spoken with him. I have only exchanged PM's on this website. I have a British passport, live I Scotland and have been in the US twice in my life way before Bitcoin was created.
I am suspicious of your posts and monitoring your contributions.
I am suspicious of your posts and monitoring your contributions.
March 04, 2014, 12:59:44 AM
My first post in this thread, I've been watching it since the start and have some shares, So I'll appreciate if my post is not taken down, thanks.
...only some of my concerns
in light of whats going on.
learning code at age of 30 and then just went into an internet service providing business.
With the way things have gone over the past year I'd prefer to get whats left of my coins back before going down another rabbit hole and coming out the other side with less coins.
...only some of my concerns
in light of whats going on.
learning code at age of 30 and then just went into an internet service providing business.
With the way things have gone over the past year I'd prefer to get whats left of my coins back before going down another rabbit hole and coming out the other side with less coins.
March 03, 2014, 08:30:38 PM
sidenote: I cant imagine a 28nm announcement would be such "good news" unless there is proof (reputable) from a third party. The excuse of shareholders bugging our suppliers is no longer valid if Ken can't stick to a plan for more than a month.
Have to agree. Can't take anything Ken says at face value, which is a damn shame. But it's time Ken provides PROOF for everything he says and whomever he claims to work with.
Proof:
Definition: evidence or argument establishing or helping to establish a fact or the truth of a statement.
Synonyms: Evidence, Verification, Corroboration, Confirmation, Validation, Documentation, Authentication.
March 03, 2014, 08:15:30 PM
So are we now able to see the proof of 55nm tapeout?
How was the "February" production run cancelled on the LAST days of the month?
My biggest concern here though would be money. Where on earth are we getting money to fund a 28nm chip if all the pre-order $ is being kept for refunds? We have apparently had coins lost on mtgox (the exact amount needs to be clarified), and IPO funds have been used on 2 different projects while we have 3 (if not more) people on salary. Shareholders need to see a detailed financial report and be able to trade shares soon or this is going to go downhill fast, it's already a PR disaster.
sidenote: I cant imagine a 28nm announcement would be such "good news" unless there is proof from a third party. The excuse of shareholders bugging our suppliers is no longer valid if Ken can't stick to a plan for more than a month.
How was the "February" production run cancelled on the LAST days of the month?
My biggest concern here though would be money. Where on earth are we getting money to fund a 28nm chip if all the pre-order $ is being kept for refunds? We have apparently had coins lost on mtgox (the exact amount needs to be clarified), and IPO funds have been used on 2 different projects while we have 3 (if not more) people on salary. Shareholders need to see a detailed financial report and be able to trade shares soon or this is going to go downhill fast, it's already a PR disaster.
sidenote: I cant imagine a 28nm announcement would be such "good news" unless there is proof from a third party. The excuse of shareholders bugging our suppliers is no longer valid if Ken can't stick to a plan for more than a month.
March 03, 2014, 08:03:04 PM
what i find funny is this persons claims??? "Anyone ever seen a picture of so called KEN SLAUGHTER? NO! Anyone ever met Ken Slaughter?NO! "
Hmmm Several people have met him, and hell there was even a Well known news station that did a story on him
For being an Officer of the law he must not be very good at it
LoL this guy is funny as hell
Hmmm Several people have met him, and hell there was even a Well known news station that did a story on him
For being an Officer of the law he must not be very good at it
LoL this guy is funny as hell
Yes I suspect a troll. There is no way he is actually the cop he claims to be.
March 03, 2014, 07:43:25 PM
what i find funny is this persons claims??? "Anyone ever seen a picture of so called KEN SLAUGHTER? NO! Anyone ever met Ken Slaughter?NO! "
Hmmm Several people have met him, and hell there was even a Well known news station that did a story on him
For being an Officer of the law he must not be very good at it
LoL this guy is funny as hell
Hmmm Several people have met him, and hell there was even a Well known news station that did a story on him
For being an Officer of the law he must not be very good at it
LoL this guy is funny as hell
March 03, 2014, 07:37:32 PM
I have a call into the Co Springs PD to have this Persons Extortion and Blackmail Investigated and Outright Slander Dealt with, if this person is a cop ( the real Officer Scott Carnes ) then as an officer of the law, they should know that extortion is against the law and so is blackmail.
I am awaiting a call back from an officer of the Co Springs PD to investigate this issue and i have a call into ken also to make him aware of this person posting his personal info on the site
I am awaiting a call back from an officer of the Co Springs PD to investigate this issue and i have a call into ken also to make him aware of this person posting his personal info on the site
Please keep us informed.
March 03, 2014, 07:34:56 PM
I have a call into the Co Springs PD to have this Persons Extortion and Blackmail Investigated and Outright Slander Dealt with, if this person is a cop ( the real Officer Scott Carnes ) then as an officer of the law, they should know that extortion is against the law and so is blackmail.
I am awaiting a call back from an officer of the Co Springs PD to investigate this issue and i have a call into ken also to make him aware of this person posting his personal info on the site
I am awaiting a call back from an officer of the Co Springs PD to investigate this issue and i have a call into ken also to make him aware of this person posting his personal info on the site
March 03, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
The only theft occurring is by a figment of your imagination Virtual Mining Corporation. Ken does not exist just like the mining hardware. This is all one huge case of stolen Identity. Ken is simply the SSN of some poor 61 year old sap caught in the middle. Samantha Butler has 15 vehicles in her name and a brother with a criminal background Justin Shane Butler who is involved more than is known here. They run a meth lab out on 564th rd where those crappy pictures were taken of Lowes work benches in the garage out back. According to the pleasant hope PD and have been in and out of trouble for years Samantha butler is the key to this mess as these crooks have made one mistake which I personally plan to exploit and expose the fraud and sue for my troubles. Stealing 1900 buks is a felony there is some legality for you. They have even stooped as low as using the identity of a deceased relative, Lisa Bebout, to further this farce. To imply I give two rat turds about your thoughts on legality is ridiculous. The Identity theft has already occurred and everyone involved in this thread is participating under false pretense. Write that up in the case notes for proof if you are looking to spat legal balogny my way. This imaginary Ken pretends to be a business man when if in fact he was real has no history of business activity nor a solid job history for that matter. DO NOT DEAL WITH THESE CLOWNS SCAMMING people. Anyone ever seen a picture of so called KEN SLAUGHTER? NO! Anyone ever met Ken Slaughter?NO! You are a puppet account setup for rebuttal of negative press. That makes you an accomplice in this scam be warned. 4
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LOL that is Funny to Say that i am just a Puppet account,
And a few people have met Ken and a few people have met me and can tell you that i am a real person Living in a whole different state then ken
So put that in your pipe and smoke that crack some more
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LOL that is Funny to Say that i am just a Puppet account,
And a few people have met Ken and a few people have met me and can tell you that i am a real person Living in a whole different state then ken
So put that in your pipe and smoke that crack some more
this is funny people have talked to me and even Bar has met me and this guy calls me a puppet account
i fell out of my chair laughing so hard
Confused....
This Scott Carnes person seems to actually be a cop though...
http://www.fox21news.com/news/story.aspx?id=715742#.UxUSTPldUaA
http://www.springsgov.com/News.aspx?NewsID=2829
http://ca10.washburnlaw.edu/cases/2007/07/06-1297.htm
March 03, 2014, 06:36:13 PM
Ken, the options trader. He keeps having the option (but not the obligation) of creating mining chips at a low price which he can sell at a higher price if Bitcoin shoots up to $7,500 - $10,000 per bitcoin. It just hasn't happened yet and I'm starting to think we won't see a product from ActiveMining until the price of bitcoin reaches Ken's prognostication of $10,000 per bitcoin.
yup.
March 03, 2014, 06:25:23 PM
The only theft occurring is by a figment of your imagination Virtual Mining Corporation. Ken does not exist just like the mining hardware. This is all one huge case of stolen Identity. Ken is simply the SSN of some poor 61 year old sap caught in the middle. Samantha Butler has 15 vehicles in her name and a brother with a criminal background Justin Shane Butler who is involved more than is known here. They run a meth lab out on 564th rd where those crappy pictures were taken of Lowes work benches in the garage out back. According to the pleasant hope PD and have been in and out of trouble for years Samantha butler is the key to this mess as these crooks have made one mistake which I personally plan to exploit and expose the fraud and sue for my troubles. Stealing 1900 buks is a felony there is some legality for you. They have even stooped as low as using the identity of a deceased relative, Lisa Bebout, to further this farce. To imply I give two rat turds about your thoughts on legality is ridiculous. The Identity theft has already occurred and everyone involved in this thread is participating under false pretense. Write that up in the case notes for proof if you are looking to spat legal balogny my way. This imaginary Ken pretends to be a business man when if in fact he was real has no history of business activity nor a solid job history for that matter. DO NOT DEAL WITH THESE CLOWNS SCAMMING people. Anyone ever seen a picture of so called KEN SLAUGHTER? NO! Anyone ever met Ken Slaughter?NO! You are a puppet account setup for rebuttal of negative press. That makes you an accomplice in this scam be warned. 4
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4125 Center Park Drive
Mail Code 1552
Colorado Springs CO 80916
LOL that is Funny to Say that i am just a Puppet account,
And a few people have met Ken and a few people have met me and can tell you that i am a real person Living in a whole different state then ken
So put that in your pipe and smoke that crack some more
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The message they sent you was:
Calll me to discuss legal concerns for yourself and the ones you are involved with clearly
Scott Carnes
719-444-7779 ext 6288
Here is my mailing address if you want to communicate via mail about Virtual Mining Corporation
4125 Center Park Drive
Mail Code 1552
Colorado Springs CO 80916
LOL that is Funny to Say that i am just a Puppet account,
And a few people have met Ken and a few people have met me and can tell you that i am a real person Living in a whole different state then ken
So put that in your pipe and smoke that crack some more
this is funny people have talked to me and even Bar has met me and this guy calls me a puppet account
i fell out of my chair laughing so hard
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