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Just a reminder for those buying shares now above 0.0025:

I will be posting 400,000 shares on BTC-TC @ .0025 and 100,000 shares on bitfunder @ .0025 sometime this weekend after the market has time to breath from the resent sales.

Might as well just put them up there now and get it over with.   Tongue
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With the box symbol I was aiming for an abstract representation of VMC's product, the whole idea of adding or slotting in extra hashing cards. Getting rid of the "E" whilst not overcrowding the symbol is a nightmare though, although this version is certainly an improvement over my first rough design:

The Fast Hash miners are expandable via boards. What about a vertical stack of thin box-type layers as a symbol?

As we all know, Design is a process. Step 1 just gets you started - it need not be remotely related to the final outcome.

That's actually one of the other designs I've been working on, it's not polished enough to show off yet though. I'll probably produce about 3 or 4 unique designs with multiple colour variants of each and present them to Ken next Friday. With any luck he'll like what we sees.

I am hoping that I do.
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With the box symbol I was aiming for an abstract representation of VMC's product, the whole idea of adding or slotting in extra hashing cards. Getting rid of the "E" whilst not overcrowding the symbol is a nightmare though, although this version is certainly an improvement over my first rough design:

The Fast Hash miners are expandable via boards. What about a vertical stack of thin box-type layers as a symbol?

As we all know, Design is a process. Step 1 just gets you started - it need not be remotely related to the final outcome.

That's actually one of the other designs I've been working on, it's not polished enough to show off yet though. I'll probably produce about 3 or 4 unique designs with multiple colour variants of each and present them to Ken next Friday. With any luck he'll like what we sees.
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With the box symbol I was aiming for an abstract representation of VMC's product, the whole idea of adding or slotting in extra hashing cards. Getting rid of the "E" whilst not overcrowding the symbol is a nightmare though, although this version is certainly an improvement over my first rough design:

The Fast Hash miners are expandable via boards. What about a vertical stack of thin box-type layers as a symbol?

As we all know, Design is a process. Step 1 just gets you started - it need not be remotely related to the final outcome.
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Thought you guys might be interested in this; after talking with Ken yesterday I'm now busy creating what will hopefully be the new logo for VMC. I'm working on several different designs which I'll be presenting to him in a few days time, but for now here's a little preview of one of them:




Nice work man!
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Thought you guys might be interested in this; after talking with Ken yesterday I'm now busy creating what will hopefully be the new logo for VMC. I'm working on several different designs which I'll be presenting to him in a few days time, but for now here's a little preview of one of them:




Now THIS is very exciting.

Keep up the good work!

Who else thought 'Enron' when they saw that box?

With the box symbol I was aiming for an abstract representation of VMC's product, the whole idea of adding or slotting in extra hashing cards. Getting rid of the "E" whilst not overcrowding the symbol is a nightmare though, although this version is certainly an improvement over my first rough design:

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Thought you guys might be interested in this; after talking with Ken yesterday I'm now busy creating what will hopefully be the new logo for VMC. I'm working on several different designs which I'll be presenting to him in a few days time, but for now here's a little preview of one of them:




Now THIS is very exciting.

Keep up the good work!

Who else thought 'Enron' when they saw that box?
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
Thought you guys might be interested in this; after talking with Ken yesterday I'm now busy creating what will hopefully be the new logo for VMC. I'm working on several different designs which I'll be presenting to him in a few days time, but for now here's a little preview of one of them:




Now THIS is very exciting.

Keep up the good work!
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I am just now getting around today and caught up on last nights proceedings and I have a few comments and thoughts.

I am honored some of you have considered or mentioned me for a board seat.  I have professed a desire to assist in Active Mining and have taken an initiative to keep people informed.

I do not think that a board seat should be unequivocally tied to the amount of shares you hold.  Just because you are an individual with a large amount of shares does not guarantee that you are a person with a perfect skill set of someone who should be a board member.  That is not to say, that a person with a large amount of shares cannot be a board member, just that other factors should tie into how someone is selected.  A board member foremost, should be a professional in a related industry, experience in dealing with personalities is key, and having a professional approach to situations is a must.  Too many knee jerk reactions can cause major flubs for your corporation, and I see it happen day in and day out to so many strong organizations.  However the board is chosen, there should be a lot of thought into who is selected, but of course this is going to be on Ken.

My opinion on the share walls; congrats on the NRE!  I don't have a large problem with the issuing of the remaining shares, because alas they will have to be issued.  If you purchased shares from speculators at 0.0028, I can understand why you would be miffed.  Purchasing from the speculator was a decision made by you, but I think if you were maybe more aware of how the remaining shares were to be issued, it would have helped you make a better decision.  

Here is what I know

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What happens to the Active Mining Cooperative (AMC) now?

Existing AMC (BitFunder) and AMC-PT (BTC-TC) shareholders get the benefit of being able to tender their shares for ActiveMining shares, getting all the benefits of new hardware sales and the shareholder's protection program of BTC0.0025/share, on top of their current mining profits. After existing AMC ask walls are sold (around 4,000,000 shares) and 90% of existing AMC shareholders tender their shares to ActiveMining, AMC starts on a liquidation process, to be fully absorbed into ActiveMining

This language infers the shares that were not fully issued, ie the mentioned release of 500k more, those shares were to be released at 0.0025.  I assumed that this was what had to happen when reading this language above.  Regardless to this fact, the shares probably should have been either; announcement that they will be released at X date and X time at X 0.0025, or added to the initial wall in the beginning of the IPO rather than withheld from those 0.0025 walls on BTCT and BF, or announcement they would be released in batches of 100k at X date and times spread out.  There are options, and probably more than those stated above.  Point is, they all give the shareholder an announcement of the intentions so they can invest wisely.  Either way, ANY share issued under the 10 million cap is provided the shareholders protection program no matter what price it is purchased or issued at.  That part in your FAQ needs to be corrected.

As to the language that reads: The issuing of more ActiveMining shares can be allowed in the future - this only means that there will have to be a shareholder vote if more shares were to be issued over the 10 million to shareholders and 15 million corporate shares.

At any rate, I think some investors need to calm down a little and not react so quickly.  Everything is not going to play out instantly.  I share similar thoughts, but responses should provoke discussion and produce ideas, not a forum feud spat back and forth.

Clearly, Active Mining is not going away, that notion should not be entertained.  Ken could never disappear with your BTC, he is to exposed.  Those worries should not be even in the process.
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Cool. Looking forwards to seeing more Smiley
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Looks like we're going to start seeing AMC everywhere 

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1 8.75 digitalmagus
6 8.25 kslaughter

Btw Ken have you considered a reddit advert?

I'm not too sure how great they are in terms of impressions - sales but I know there is an active Bitcoin following there too

I think the amount of slots ken bought is a bit of a waste. With just 2 or 3 slots everyone on the forum would see something about ActiveMining.

Reddit advertising is a good idea. The ads there target it to specific subreddits and I don't think it would cost that much to advertise on r/bitcoin and r/bitcoinmining. I typically block most ads, but I have found a few interesting things from the ones r/bitcoin.

Each of the 6 Ads has a different message.
There's 3 pages of questions and WTFs before this one, how about you stop selectively answering?
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Thought you guys might be interested in this; after talking with Ken yesterday I'm now busy creating what will hopefully be the new logo for VMC. I'm working on several different designs which I'll be presenting to him in a few days time, but for now here's a little preview of one of them:


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Unrelated - we have 4 votes now for activemining on btc-tc, I think we only need one more for approval

I think we are in the lull before the storm. When the new ACTIVEMINING asset goes live on btct.co and the auto AMC-PT tender occurs *and* Ken completes selling into the market, the price will spike again and probably find support ~ 0.004.

There is some truth in that as long as people are confident they won't be undermined and on how future share issues will be run.

This hiccup will be over soon and forgotten. Stage 1 is essentially complete, all eyes should be on the next stage for ActM: ramping hashing and collecting pre-sales. I'd guess we will be looking at $5 million dollars pre-sales soon.
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Unrelated - we have 4 votes now for activemining on btc-tc, I think we only need one more for approval

I think we are in the lull before the storm. When the new ACTIVEMINING asset goes live on btct.co and the auto AMC-PT tender occurs *and* Ken completes selling into the market, the price will spike again and probably find support ~ 0.004.

There is some truth in that as long as people are confident they won't be undermined and on how future share issues will be run.
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Unrelated - we have 4 votes now for activemining on btc-tc, I think we only need one more for approval

I think we are in the lull before the storm. When the new ACTIVEMINING asset goes live on btct.co and the auto AMC-PT tender occurs *and* Ken completes selling into the market, the price will spike again and probably find support ~ 0.004.
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Unrelated - we have 4 votes now for activemining on btc-tc, I think we only need one more for approval
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Looks like we're going to start seeing AMC everywhere  

Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 8.75 digitalmagus
6 8.25 kslaughter

Btw Ken have you considered a reddit advert?

I'm not too sure how great they are in terms of impressions - sales but I know there is an active Bitcoin following there too

I think the amount of slots ken bought is a bit of a waste. With just 2 or 3 slots everyone on the forum would see something about ActiveMining.

Reddit advertising is a good idea. The ads there target it to specific subreddits and I don't think it would cost that much to advertise on r/bitcoin and r/bitcoinmining. I typically block most ads, but I have found a few interesting things from the ones r/bitcoin.

I think it would be wise to watch the web traffic and sales generated before passing judgement on the advertising strategy.

Also there are many subjective and often subconscious decisions made before someone makes a purchase after seeing some ads. You can assume 2-3 slots would do the job of 6, but you have no way to know unless you test this.
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Science!
Looks like we're going to start seeing AMC everywhere 

Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 8.75 digitalmagus
6 8.25 kslaughter

Btw Ken have you considered a reddit advert?

I'm not too sure how great they are in terms of impressions - sales but I know there is an active Bitcoin following there too

I think the amount of slots ken bought is a bit of a waste. With just 2 or 3 slots everyone on the forum would see something about ActiveMining.

Reddit advertising is a good idea. The ads there target it to specific subreddits and I don't think it would cost that much to advertise on r/bitcoin and r/bitcoinmining. I typically block most ads, but I have found a few interesting things from the ones r/bitcoin.

I think it would be wise to watch the web traffic and sales generated before passing judgement on the advertising strategy.
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Activity: 476
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Looks like we're going to start seeing AMC everywhere 

Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 8.75 digitalmagus
6 8.25 kslaughter

Btw Ken have you considered a reddit advert?

I'm not too sure how great they are in terms of impressions - sales but I know there is an active Bitcoin following there too

I think the amount of slots ken bought is a bit of a waste. With just 2 or 3 slots everyone on the forum would see something about ActiveMining.

Reddit advertising is a good idea. The ads there target it to specific subreddits and I don't think it would cost that much to advertise on r/bitcoin and r/bitcoinmining. I typically block most ads, but I have found a few interesting things from the ones r/bitcoin.

Each of the 6 Ads has a different message.
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Thanks babefoot, very interesting and definitly reassuring, look forward to the podcast.
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