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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread - page 9. (Read 479317 times)

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CORRECT. We've also known that ActM was going to fill this lengthy hashing void with a large chip order from Avalon that through no fault of ActM's will not happen. However it doesn't change the fact that there's no reason whatsoever to invest in this security at this time. As people recognize this fact and sell the share price drops.

That's all fine and well.

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that seemingly few people in the bitcoin securities space can even comprehend a time frame longer than 2-3 weeks. There's nothing inherently wrong with that - I mean after all, if Company A isn't making you money right this moment, Company B might be able to. Sure, fine, go look into Company B. But the idea that Company A is totally inept for not producing at this moment (which they told you they wouldn't be able to beforehand) is immensely shortsighted. And to then use that as a foundation to make a statement like "there's no reason whatsoever to invest" goes almost perfectly against what an investment ought to be

There is something to be said for the opportunity cost argument, but I do completely agree with you that that does not equate to the Company A (in your example) categorically not being a good investment. It's simply not a short term one.
N_S
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CORRECT. We've also known that ActM was going to fill this lengthy hashing void with a large chip order from Avalon that through no fault of ActM's will not happen. However it doesn't change the fact that there's no reason whatsoever to invest in this security at this time. As people recognize this fact and sell the share price drops.

That's all fine and well.

I'm starting to come to the conclusion that seemingly few people in the bitcoin securities space can even comprehend a time frame longer than 2-3 weeks. There's nothing inherently wrong with that - I mean after all, if Company A isn't making you money right this moment, Company B might be able to. Sure, fine, go look into Company B. But the idea that Company A is totally inept for not producing at this moment (which they told you they wouldn't be able to beforehand) is immensely shortsighted. And to then use that as a foundation to make a statement like "there's no reason whatsoever to invest" goes almost perfectly against what an investment ought to be
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hello,
I'd like to buy a lot of shares at the bottom. Are we there yet?

No....
newbie
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hello,
I'd like to buy a lot of shares at the bottom. Are we there yet?
sr. member
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It's called Activemining. If management wished to actively mine between now and November they presumably have the resources to do so. No the Avalon disaster is not the fault of management, what they've done(& not done) since is.

So wait, your contention is with their name? You're reaching pretty far here...

Again, we've known for a long time that eASIC chips had a significant lead time.

CORRECT. We've also known that ActM was going to fill this lengthy hashing void with a large chip order from Avalon that through no fault of ActM's will not happen. However it doesn't change the fact that there's no reason whatsoever to invest in this security at this time. As people recognize this fact and sell the share price drops.
ajk
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AMC had an IPO at .0005 prior to them being restructured into ActiveMining at least if you bought on Bitfunder, not sure about BTCT, technically they are still 3.5x higher than that price,

Im not trying to defend Ken but the BTC securities market is so tiny and tends to over react upon any news, while the share price is falling perhaps its better this way considering that any news tends to be misinterpreted and just leads to being a unnecessary task of holding many people's hands,

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It doesn't really add-up that this stock has steadily dropped while offering legitimate developments and say Labcoin has done nothing but blow hot air yet it continues to stay above ActM share price.

Couldn't agree more. Labcoin has done everything needed to indicate it being an abject scam. People are interesting.

This to me is a clear sign that there is some major market manipulation at work by some big players, and it's the main reason why I am continuing to hold.  If there was one silver lining to this, it's that I finally managed to move about half of my shares over to BTCT from BF, without taking a hit.  Now I'm just planning on sitting back and waiting till November.

I am not sure it is manipulation. The simple fact is that on Bitfunder the price is so low  because some of the biggest shareholders are taking turns to systematically sell all their shares. Why rhis is happening, I don't know. I have no more information, just this much.

And the most important difference between Labcoin and ActM is that the latter is not even promising anything for the short term.
N_S
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It's called Activemining. If management wished to actively mine between now and November they presumably have the resources to do so. No the Avalon disaster is not the fault of management, what they've done(& not done) since is.

So wait, your contention is with their name? You're reaching pretty far here...

Again, we've known for a long time that eASIC chips had a significant lead time.
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Neither is a scam. They're both stalling because they have nada at this time. ActM is at least being transparent about it.

ActM has said they'll have nada as far as eASIC chips go, for a long time, so I don't see that as 'stalling for time'. More like just running the course. The biggest hiccup seems to be the Avalon debacle, which can hardly be blamed on ActM.

It's called Activemining. If management wished to actively mine between now and November they presumably have the resources to do so. No the Avalon disaster is not the fault of management, what they've done(& not done) since is.
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It doesn't really add-up that this stock has steadily dropped while offering legitimate developments and say Labcoin has done nothing but blow hot air yet it continues to stay above ActM share price.

Couldn't agree more. Labcoin has done everything needed to indicate it being an abject scam. People are interesting.

This to me is a clear sign that there is some major market manipulation at work by some big players, and it's the main reason why I am continuing to hold.  If there was one silver lining to this, it's that I finally managed to move about half of my shares over to BTCT from BF, without taking a hit.  Now I'm just planning on sitting back and waiting till November.
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Still no info about what the Avalon refund will be used for? I can understand both reinvestiment or payment as dividend, but it must be well explained -i.e. paying as dividend as all the NRE is already done, or using it for reinvesting but explaining in what-.
N_S
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Neither is a scam. They're both stalling because they have nada at this time. ActM is at least being transparent about it.

ActM has said they'll have nada as far as eASIC chips go, for a long time, so I don't see that as 'stalling for time'. More like just running the course. The biggest hiccup seems to be the Avalon debacle, which can hardly be blamed on ActM.
sr. member
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It doesn't really add-up that this stock has steadily dropped while offering legitimate developments and say Labcoin has done nothing but blow hot air yet it continues to stay above ActM share price.

Couldn't agree more. Labcoin has done everything needed to indicate it being an abject scam. People are interesting.

Neither is a scam. They're both stalling because they have nada at this time. ActM is at least being transparent about it.
N_S
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It doesn't really add-up that this stock has steadily dropped while offering legitimate developments and say Labcoin has done nothing but blow hot air yet it continues to stay above ActM share price.

Couldn't agree more. Labcoin has done everything needed to indicate it being an abject scam. People are interesting.
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I wouldn't crush the company stock and harm its long term image, but what do I know I am a bag holder of this company and probably have a lot less coin than VE

If you're holding this stock and are legitimately concerned about it's standing, I'm confused as to why you seem to take every chance to add to the negativity. It doesn't make sense outside of manipulation.

Chips being slotted for Nov. doesn't cause me to freak out. Having eASIC publically on board serves to inspire a ton of confidence.

I don't subscribe to the whole "oh god the network hashrate is going to be 52587632PH/s by Dec. and only HashFastTerraNCcoin is going to capitalize!!"

I guess i'm just frustrated that the stock has tanked so badly.
It doesn't really add-up that this stock has steadily dropped while offering legitimate developments and say Labcoin has done nothing but blow hot air yet it continues to stay above ActM share price. News needs to come a bit more steady with ActM.
N_S
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I guess i'm just frustrated that the stock has tanked so badly.

I understand that, but adding fuel to the fire (I personally don't see any fire) isn't going to make it better. Hell, we knew that chips wouldn't come before Nov. for quite some time.
legendary
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I wouldn't crush the company stock and harm its long term image, but what do I know I am a bag holder of this company and probably have a lot less coin than VE

If you're holding this stock and are legitimately concerned about it's standing, I'm confused as to why you seem to take every chance to add to the negativity. It doesn't make sense outside of manipulation.

Chips being slotted for Nov. doesn't cause me to freak out. Having eASIC publically on board serves to inspire a ton of confidence.

I don't subscribe to the whole "oh god the network hashrate is going to be 52587632PH/s by Dec. and only HashFastTerraNCcoin is going to capitalize!!"

I guess i'm just frustrated that the stock has tanked so badly.
sr. member
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HashFastTerraNCcoin is gunna win and will have the entire 7200BTC/day of block rewards to themselvez!!!!!!!!!!!! 28NM IS GONNA BE USELESS WE NEED 1NM NOW OR ITS OVER
N_S
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I wouldn't crush the company stock and harm its long term image, but what do I know I am a bag holder of this company and probably have a lot less coin than VE

If you're holding this stock and are legitimately concerned about it's standing, I'm confused as to why you seem to take every chance to add to the negativity. It doesn't make sense outside of manipulation.

Chips being slotted for Nov. doesn't cause me to freak out. Having eASIC publically on board serves to inspire a ton of confidence.

I don't subscribe to the whole "oh god the network hashrate is going to be 52587632PH/s by Dec. and only HashFastTerraNCcoin is going to capitalize!!"
legendary
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If that's the case, wouldn't you benefit yourself by doing what he did?

I wouldn't crush the company stock and harm its long term image, but what do I know I am a bag holder of this company and probably have a lot less coin than VE
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