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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 170. (Read 771288 times)

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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Aww poor zumzero must have been getting desperate. I was desperate and made a knowledge thread to at least help without being a loud cheerleader/liar.



You did your part.  Without your generous financial help, this sideshow would be pointless, if not outright impossible.  
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Ken's statement about the software on the chip may be legitimate. I have come up with a theory on how Intellihash may work.

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"We have had to modify the software in our chips to make it work with our new software." - Ken Slaughter

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Intellihash(tm)

Intellihash is our new trademark for our new Bitcoin mining software which gives up to a 20% increase in hashing speed and has the possibility to increase the speed of our mining machines as the difficulty goes up.  We have had to modify the software in our chips to make it work with our new software.  The chips are going to be late; however, our new Intellihash software could be a game changer for the company.

Some background on eASIC's ASICs vs Other ASICs and FPGAs:

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Q. What is different about eASIC’s technology compared to other Structured ASICs and FPGAs?

A.  Competing Structured ASICs require numerous custom masks since both routing and logic are mask-customized. The expense of custom masks is high and grows exponentially with each new process node. By efficiently using a maskless lithography customization, eASIC’s Nextreme devices provide unprecedented benefits of quick and low cost product development together with a seamless path to volume production. Nextreme prototypes are identical to the high volume production devices, as they both share the same base wafers and the same data files are used for the Via customization. The only difference is in the manufacturing process - prototypes and low volume quantities are customized with Direct-Write eBeam equipment and high volume production devices are customized with a single Via-mask.

In an FPGA, both the routing and the logic are configurable. Configurable routing requires significant silicon overhead and in eASIC’s Structured ASIC the configurable routing is replaced with Via-mask routing. Therefore, Nextreme achieves over 200:1 area reduction in routing compared to FPGAs. This silicon efficiency translates into dramatically lower costs, higher performance and lower power consumption.

Q. How to customize eASIC’s Structured ASIC devices?

A.  Two elements are required to implement a design on a Nextreme device: Via configuration for interconnect and logic customization or optionally, a bit-stream for programming the logic cells. Both the Via configuration and bit-stream files are generated with eASIC's proprietary EDA tools suite called eTools. The Via configuration file is provided by the customer to eASIC or to one of the sales representatives and is used to manufacture the custom devices.

OK, there are two versions of eASIC's Nextreme chip, the SL and VL. From eASIC:
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Q. What is the difference between Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL?

A.  Nextreme VL and Nextreme SL are identical 90nm Structured ASIC devices of the Nextreme family. The only difference is in the logic customization method. The Nextreme SL product, which uses Flash devices to load the bitsteam, is optimized for fast turnaround and flexibility allowing re-programmability of the logic cells, while Nextreme VL devices do not require any external configuration loading and therefore are instant on, eliminating inrush current and soft errors.

So, it is possible that what Ken was saying was that after playing around with the first eBeamed prototype (no mask), he and his team came up with Intellihash. This required the "software" or LUT to be altered for use with Intellihash, which then go to full production in the nextreme VL - Via Programmed Logic (Fixed LUT). (This is more or less what Kleeck and Shaofis discussed)

Or...

Rather than use the nextreme VL for final products, VMC could implement the nextreme SL. This would allow for alterations to the SRAM Reprogrammable Logic (LUT) after the miners had been delivered. Thus, Intellihash could improve the performance of the miners as the difficulty increased since alterations to the logic could be made on the fly - an on-chip firmware upgrade. The routing cannot be altered but the logic can.

Please refer to this PDF for further information: http://www.avnet-asic.com/sfiles/editor/Nextreme.pdf
legendary
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Aww poor zumzero must have been getting desperate. I was desperate and made a knowledge thread to at least help without being a loud cheerleader/liar.

legendary
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Owners of machines may not come to these forums. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.

Lets stop being naive, there are no machines shipped. Ken shipped something but it did not hash, perhaps a computer module like power supply?

And of course I was right about CanadianGuy, it wasn't shares but was some type of financial incentive.
legendary
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What you did here has nothing to do with calculated risk or startups failing.  You had nothing to base your calculations on - other than the second-rate pitch of an aging serial scammer.
This shit needed as much calculating as slashing your wrists and falling into a shark tank.  

Not sure if you know much about startups, not starting a brick laying business, that's not a startup, but rather http://www.paulgraham.com/growth.html

And most of these startups don't even have a method of generating revenue for most of their lives, some are even planned on making an exit as the only possible investment return. Many angels and VC's admit that it's a gut feeling and luck mostly, it's hard to calculate the unknown.

And there were calculations for ActM laying around. I still believe that if we were on schedule we would have had some success. I invested in the knowledge we would have a full capacity by the end of December and there were no hints back when I invested that something went wrong with the eASIC chips.
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.

Would have not been in the (verbal?) contract to keep quiet about who paid you? Seems bad for your business to announce any of this.
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(This is all stuff I gathered from the IRC discussion with Kleeck and Shaofis)
As far as the delay due to the software modification is concerned, there may never have been an initial mask to begin with as the prototype chips were produced using the eBeam process (no mask). Changes were made for the Intellihash and Ken moved to the full-scale production, masked nextreme process.
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Owners of machines may not come to these boards. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.

Legally fine but morally grey.

If this is the case then Ken should be upfront about it and say so. i.e. ''these were the first guys to give me orders and cash because it was way before incorporation, IPO etc. By the way, here are a few pictures.''

Saying we have shipped miners with so little evidence to prove it certainly damages confidence.
legendary
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Ad maiora!
 I think the big issue is share access.

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share access (and payment of past divs due) are very important. the foot-dragging on these 2 issues are beginning to make ActM look more and more like labcoin every day that they are not resolved. Get On It Man! Holidays are OVER ffs!
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Owners of machines may not come to these forums. For example, the first customers could be Ken, his family, and/or engineers working on the boards/chips.


hero member
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
geez really? coulda fooled us.
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zumzero paid me to say i had a machine
i just realized the contract of silence ended yesterday

not sure why
but i have no machine.
hero member
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
If there are any reports of at least one VMC machine out there in the wild hashing then I'll shut the hell up and wait it out…


anyone?
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^I got ya... I'm just saying that Ken did not necessarily go back to the drawing board. Ken may have just altered the plans a bit. What if the prototype chips worked fine?

Chips do work, don't think that is the problem, I think we are shipping too, even if not shipping a substantial amount. I think the big issue is share access.
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^I got ya... I'm just saying that Ken did not necessarily go back to the drawing board. Ken may have just altered the plans a bit. What if the prototype chips worked fine?
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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing board already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
It doesn't mean we went back to the drawing board. There are other possibilities.

My point is the same as your original point. i.e.


If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?

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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing board already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
It doesn't mean we went back to the drawing board. There are other possibilities.
sr. member
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If eASIC is legit and the deal was legit, we already received sample chips. Why can't we see a picture of them?


We wouldn't want Cointerra or KNC to copy our design.  We need to keep the secret of our success hidden.

KNC full custom 28nm ASIC: 100+ GH/s per chip, proven design and proven suppliers. Now working on their 20nm chip which will likely be 750+ GH/s per chip

Cointerra full custom 28nm ASIC: 500+ GH/s per chip, taped out, tested, assembled and miners being shipped.

Compare to:

ActM FPGA ported semi-custom halfbreed 28nm ASIC: 20GH/s per over clocked chip. No proven hashing samples, no timeline, one 'back-to-the-drawing-board' already.


Why in the hell would Cointerra or KNC want to copy our cheap-ass, out-of-date, unproven design?
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Where is this endorsement?
It is on Ken's LinkedIn - scroll to the bottom.

Richard Lundin - Sales Director at StilWell Baker Inc.


Ken's LinkedIn leaves much to be desired but this guy looks legit.
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I am assuming that Ken is working with Stilwell Baker to make the boards? That company seems legit.

What makes you think they are involved?  
Because Ken knows the Sales Director there. Ken was endorsed by him for his knowledge of Web Applications. Its just a guess.

Electronics Engineering and Manufacturing

http://www.stilwellbaker.com/
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Since 1993, Stilwell Baker has helped companies develop highly reliable electronic devices, systems, and controls. For our customers, we are a primary source for product development, manufacturing, and supply chain management.
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