Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 215. (Read 771526 times)

I'm sure that many of us are frustrated, but when you consider what we've all been through and how close we are to palpable breakthroughs, this time of year comes with it's own set of priorities for people like yourself and Ken who as family men have other obligations. 

I found my recent break from this thread of enormous value.  While I was sorely tempted to start posting again when I could see big gaping holes in some of the arguments the detractors were posting, I bit my lip and allowed things to run their course without me, and guess what?  My abstinence made no hoot of a difference.
Taking a step back, even for a while, allows us to consider our priorities which sometimes get lost when we allow ourselves to become fanatically absorbed in this thread. 

When access to my money is not possible, I get angry.  Our shares are worthless until they are on a market.
If he actually sat down for a full work day I bet he could have manually assigned the shares.  It's not that hard.  There isn't that many shareholders to verify.

It's going to be the New Year before we can trade on CT and that's only my opinion.  I suggest everyone takes a break from this thread and go spend sometime with loved ones over the next couple of weeks.  This will give Ken a bit of space to do the same as I'm sure he's overworked and under stress from all the shenanigans.

By all means keep checking this thread for news, but let's not expect miracles at this time of year when people's priorities should be the family and not work.  If we can get Ken back, rested and energised then our investments are safer as his health is important to us all.

VE, you are starting to swing wildly again.  You are like a pressure cooker and probably on the verge, so why not do the same thing? Put your energy into your family and stop obsessing.  It's only money at the end of the day and not even guaranteed to bring you happiness.  While you sometimes point out how frequently some other people post, you, undisputedly post more than anyone else so this message really is for you as well.

 

are you sure actm have sold same miners to customers??

Actually they should just build every miner for themselves to maximise profit, unfortunately we have already sold some machines to customers. There is no more +EV option than building all miners for use by active mining unless we charge a figure for cloud hashing that would mean no ROI for customers.

Actually, ActM should just offer cloud hashing.

ActM should partner with CloudHashing....

Benefit for CloudHashing - well, they are currently buying expensive gear from others
Benefit for ActM - CloudHashing would provide revenue for massive expansion.

It's a very interesting idea if you think about it. ActM could provide hardware an a JV basis to CloudHashing, the instant return nature of CloudHashing (ie. people pay up-front) would mean the flow of cash back into ActM hardware would be phenomenal... Even at only 10% markup to CloudHashing no hardware costs it would be a super sexy cashflow cycle.

That, or ActM should rent out its own hashing power independently (possibly a better, although more complex, solution)

That's your first contribution to the thread in quite a while finflof. A worthy post to throw into the ring. You are adding real quality to the discussions on here.

No one mentioned price target, but dont worry, if you never miss an opportunity to stamp on someone's point then run back under your rock you will be doing well. Keep up the good work.

Your critique of my point is valid, and I think you raise a very relevant and on-topic point here. I will stop posting my views, as I'm clearly not allowed to, and bow down to the wisdom of posts like yours. Fantastic post VE, really makes sense, your logic is infallible, your evidence is flawless.

Hang on...your support has turned to Trolling at the flip of a switch. Looks like you have just belittled and undermined your entire history on here - your posts are just emotional little tantrums with no thought or analysis behind them. Ironic with you talking about acting like a little girl.

I assume the coloured coins can be loaded onto a central exchange like bitcoin can be and then traded much faster. Of course they could be loaded onto an exchange like Bitcoin is so no action is ever required by the issuer.

I am also very eager, as is everyone else...now that the arguing and bickering has finally subsided I feel like I can finally talk...

I tried out the Chroma Wallet today for Colored Coins and it's fairly intuitive and simple--not bloated like Mastercoin. I was able to create monikers for assets and put up bids and asks for them with bitcoins from testnet!  Honestly, I believe that Colored Coins has serious potential positive ramifications for the finance industry.  My only longterm con with it is its speed (TPS)...yes I know that bitcoin's transactions per second will eventually be upped when the network is stronger, but I am unsure if the speed of Colored Coins will ever be able to match something like the NASDAQ in speed, while also supporting inevitable future network growth.

I'm not sure how I feel about Crypto-Trade.com...I know I'm not going to trade my shares away, but I may consider buying some more there.  I hope we can have direct ownership or transfer easily.  I don't like the idea of a centralized trading platform just because of what's been happening this year with all the shutdowns, but it is a good solution for the meantime and it's definitely better than just waiting for Colored Coins.  Honestly, though...I'm foaming at the mouth for Colored Coins--it's genius IMO.

I really want to trade my shares. I don't understand why it has taken so long. This has been over 2 weeks now.

Ken can you just manually start adding us?

It's now Sunday, and our shares are still worthless because we are not on an exchange.
The inability to trade our shares means that we have no access to the Bitcoins they represent, which in turns means we have been defrauded.

If the ability does not exist to get our shares verified, then I doubt the ability exists to make anything else successful.


  

Disregarding the point about ActiveMining being worth $1,000,000,000 all securities prices are a combination of math and speculation. This applies to every company on the Earth.

Even if a company has a solid fundamental reason for being worth what it is, the marketplace at large, (people) will move the price based on factors such as emotion, faith, wishful thinking and this can counter even the most solid math to price a share.

Shares are a combination of faith based and evidence based pricing models.

Well what do you expect? With no information there isn't much to post about so most of us are watching this thread only. Sometimes I respond to bad arguments being made but apart from that I am content with my knowledge thread.

Hint: The people still posting are going to have poor arguments because they must be making up drivel due to the fact that no new information has entered the system.

VE, all the non-idiot posters have mostly stopped posting.

The people who post here are not ActM.

Stay classy.

Please don't share your every thought with us VE it's just too much.  You seem to thrive off confrontation, but it's selfish because you are subjecting people to the drudgery of having to read these lame rows you get involved in.  Also, have you any idea how childish you sound by threatening to start trolling again?  FFS just pick your side and stick to it instead of bouncing off the walls like a demented school kid who's eaten too many E numbers.

It's really hard for me to stay positive about ActM with the idiots in here.  They make me want to troll.

you mean we arent actually going to hit 0.04?  i had so much faith in StuarkUK's speculation math...