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Please reread.  The fact that each promise and every verifiable deadline were blown is as much proof of failure as any reasonable person can expect.  If you find that insufficient, please give me your definition of failure.
I'm sure you'll continue defending Ken long after others have accepted their losses and moved on.  I do not aim to convert every zealot.
Enjoy your "investment."

Here's something a whole lot closer to the truth which relies on fact and not disinformation.  

P&L Report & Balance sheets deadline: 31st October      - Ken posts on this date to say that he would postpone until 15th November due to working on the Klondikes and other resources.

P&L Report & Balance sheets deadline: 15th November   - Deadline met.

Progress Report Deadline: 30th November                    - Deadline met.

Weekly Update Deadline 11th December                      - Deadline met.

Weekly Update Deadline 18th December                      - Deadline met.

Yes, I'm back and apologise to anyone I may have offended in the past, outside the troll brigade.  I have tried to sit back, and have done quite well, however it pains me to see disinformation go unchecked when it's my grandchildren's inheritance at stake.  Tongue
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crumbs,

You have posted cartoons in another thread which come from Der Sturmer.

You seem to go from one thread to another, trying to pick fights. You have found fertile ground here, but that does not mean you are not a skilled and accomplished troll whose only goal is to see whom you can upset.

Yes, knybe is wrong, you are not psychotic at all, just an evil fellow who likes bullying others.

After the noob who buys my shares thanks me because he was able to make profit from dividends as provided by Uncle Ken, I will tell him that he was foolish and should have listened to you, the Goebbels of BitCoinTalk.
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Lorenzo:
You have stopped making sense altogether.  Stick to short, terse sentences to avoid forgetting what you set out to say and finishing with a non sequitur.
*Full disclosure:  I am not Goebbels nor am i, or have i ever been, a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Lorenzo:
The cartoon was posted in reply to a poster raging against the evils of Israel and, by extension, Jews.  You do not know me, stop trying to paint me as a Nazi.
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Every promise blown?

His most recent promise. Weekly updates seems to be on time every Wednesday, Hell the first one was on a Tuesday.

He made a promise about meeting with eAsic back in August, what? That seemed to be right too? No way!

He made a promise about paying the NRE weeks ago, (he made this promise back in August about paying in August if I remember correctly.) WHAT!?!? You mean he kept this promise too? Good God..

Then he promised us he would migrate the shares from BTCT to Bitfunder. I think this one happened too my friend.

He promised that he would start shipping in November. And he claimed that he had done so!! WHAT!?!?! NO FUCKING WAY. (Now this one is up for grabs but even if he shipped rom VMC to AcTM he still kept his promise as AcTM would be first in the queue. Amiright? (Did I do the internet slang right there?)

He promised us reports on the 15th and the 30th of November and I think I was there for both of those.

Wow. Are you telling me he has been keeping the promises he can as best he can? I am fucking amazed right now.

PS: Apologies for the adult language Crumbs.
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On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.

JoTheKhan:
I take no pride in knowing that Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure.  A reasonable child would come to the same conclusion.  I'd ask you to re-read my posts in this thread, but, like Labcoin, Ken "moderates" them.  Unlike Labcoin, Ken has also locked his unmoderated thread.  This exchange is, frankly, getting unproductive.  Once foul language and personal attacks start creeping into your posts, consider taking a break.

Don't worry I have read all of your posts. I can assure there was nothing substantial in any of them. The problem with having a conversation with you is that the conversation will undoubtedly have no substance as you can provide no counter arguments that contains evidence. This will almost always lead to Ad hominem attacks and insults about you and your character. I apologize I didn't mean to make any insults towards you and I apologize again for the adult language that I used.

You are playing the God's Argument. You claim scam but then when asked to provide evidence you claim. "There is no evidence it is not a scam." Until this changes I think you will only be met with Ad Hominem attacks.

PS: Look at what I have bolded in your quote. "lolworthy", you think of this as some sort of game, a game that you intend to win. You think of us as pieces on a board that you plan to move, you are playing a game and your pride is at stake. You pride yourself on something that has to do with this thread, unfortunately you are losing the game.

PS Again: Look at the second line that I have bolded. This is very productive, we have proved (With out a doubt I may add) that the main person against ActiveMining on this thread has NO proof. Seems like a very productive hour of my time compared to the weeks and weeks of time you spent on this forum posting artwork.

JowTheKahn:
Please re-read my posts that have not been deleted.  Each time i say that Active Mining is "scam/failed mining company" or "Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure," you seem to ignore the failure part and ask me to prove scam.  If you sincerely missed that, i'm pointing it out now.

Further, if a scam could be proven, it would be proven to be more than a scam -- it would be proven a failed scam.  That's an important point to keep in mind.

I have provided you with plenty of evidence of Active Mining being a failure -- every deadline blown, every promise broken.  You chose to ignore these facts.  That's fine, but don't assume that everyone else is also blind to them.
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On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.

JoTheKhan:
I take no pride in knowing that Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure.  A reasonable child would come to the same conclusion.  I'd ask you to re-read my posts in this thread, but, like Labcoin, Ken "moderates" them.  Unlike Labcoin, Ken has also locked his unmoderated thread.  This exchange is, frankly, getting unproductive.  Once foul language and personal attacks start creeping into your posts, consider taking a break.

Don't worry I have read all of your posts. I can assure there was nothing substantial in any of them. The problem with having a conversation with you is that the conversation will undoubtedly have no substance as you can provide no counter arguments that contains evidence. This will almost always lead to Ad hominem attacks and insults about you and your character. I apologize I didn't mean to make any insults towards you and I apologize again for the adult language that I used.

You are playing the God's Argument. You claim scam but then when asked to provide evidence you claim. "There is no evidence it is not a scam." Until this changes I think you will only be met with Ad Hominem attacks.

PS: Look at what I have bolded in your quote. "lolworthy", you think of this as some sort of game, a game that you intend to win. You think of us as pieces on a board that you plan to move, you are playing a game and your pride is at stake. You pride yourself on something that has to do with this thread, unfortunately you are losing the game.

PS Again: Look at the second line that I have bolded. This is very productive, we have proved (With out a doubt I may add) that the main person against ActiveMining on this thread has NO proof. Seems like a very productive hour of my time compared to the weeks and weeks of time you spent on this forum posting artwork.
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On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.

JoTheKhan:
I take no pride in knowing that Active Mining is either a scam or a lolworthy failure.  A reasonable child would come to the same conclusion.  I'd ask you to re-read my posts in this thread, but, like Labcoin, Ken "moderates" them.  Unlike Labcoin, Ken has also locked his unmoderated thread.  This exchange is, frankly, getting unproductive.  Once foul language and personal attacks start creeping into your posts, consider taking a break.
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On the contrary I haven't defend Ken. I hold him accountable to every thing he says and everything he does. I have been looking at the facts and only the facts, you're letting your pride get ahead of you. You are so blinded by your pride you can't even fathom that you're wrong. I asks questions and look at every posts on this god damn thread, I take what everyone says at face value and look into it. I don't sit on my high horse and belittle people and try to scream scam every fucking day, every fucking hour, every fucking minute like you do. You should reread my post.
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."

JoTheKhan:
I can present you with plenty of evidence of failure, such as every self-imposed deadline being blown, and no evidence of any product whatsoever.
Nothing but empty promises.
Of course, i have no conclusive evidence that Ken didn't scam you.  To this day, i also have no conclusive evidence that Labcoin is not a scam.
Go figure.

Hmm.. So you admit that YOU have no evidence for the bullshit you say on this thread and that YOUR imagination has run away with you.

Thank you.

Please reread.  The fact that each promise and every verifiable deadline were blown is as much proof of failure as any reasonable person can expect.  If you find that insufficient, please give me your definition of failure.
I'm sure you'll continue defending Ken long after others have accepted their losses and moved on.  I do not aim to convert every zealot.
Enjoy your "investment."
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."

JoTheKhan:
I can present you with plenty of evidence of failure, such as every self-imposed deadline being blown, and no evidence of any product whatsoever.
Nothing but empty promises.
Of course, i have no conclusive evidence that Ken didn't scam you.  To this day, i also have no conclusive evidence that Labcoin is not a scam.
Go figure.

Hmm.. So you admit that YOU have no evidence for the bullshit you say on this thread and that YOUR imagination has run away with you.

Thank you.
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."

JoTheKhan:
I can present you with plenty of evidence of failure, such as every self-imposed deadline being blown, and no evidence of any product whatsoever.
Nothing but empty promises.
Of course, i have no conclusive evidence that Ken didn't scam you.  To this day, i also have no conclusive evidence that Labcoin is not a scam.
Go figure.
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I have no plans to sell any share under .01. He won't be getting cheap shares from me

Not every share holder will see these Trolls for what they are - they will be the real victims in all this, cheated of their shares and future divs.

I also won't sell any atall untill we hit 0.01 and then it will only be a token 10% to raise some FIAT. Everything after that will be held for the divs (which will be banked) and I might sell another 10% at 0.04 which I don't see until around 4-6 months of farm reinvestment when we hold circa 10% of global hash.

People should be aware the divs from the shares will total 0.0025 after just a few months and thereafter will rise perhaps 2-fold as the farm progresses. Thus the Dividend Yield would price ACtM shares at around 0.02 and above. Then you need to add to that the speculation and we could easily see 0.04 by mid 2014.
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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.



I am? Are you sure its not you. As I've stated before, show me evidence this is a failed/scam mining company. Show me evidence right now. Concrete evidence and I'll give you .1BTC. If you posts anything after this reply that is not evidence then you are explicitly stating "I have no evidence."
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Lol, "i thought Ken was scamming but then he promised me moar, and i became convinced that he's legit!" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

That's almost right. My first reading of the original IPO with no research into AMC or Ken made alarm bells ring.

I lobbied on the thread to have the IPO amended - it was completely restructured. I then researched Ken both indepth online, and also via a contact in Springfield who investigated the listed premises of VMC. All checked out and I then invested a small amount increasing that investment as time went by and more details came out. I'm very happy with every ACtM decision I've made. A shame you can't be - which is why you are desperately Trolling for your life before we list on CryptoTrade lol.



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JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend...

That's simply ridiculous.  Why would the stock of a scam/failed mining company be worth anything?  Like many here, you're letting your imagination run away with you.

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Now who is the better investor here?

It's too early to say if Crumbs has failed or not. He first began to Troll ACtM after he exited for IceDrill. The intention was that he could keep ACtM share price subdued with lots of negative posts thus allowing him to re-enter (once good ACtM news arrived) at a good price after selling IceDrill for a profit. Unfortunately for him that didn't work out as IceDrill shares sank and the ACtM news never arrived - so he never got the chance to buy back in to ACtM. But now his chance is here, substantive news has been released and the shares are soon to be available again. He is after atleast 45BTC of ACtM and will pay anything under 0.005 I would say. So if we have large numbers of shares for sale on CryptoTrade sub 0.0025 he will have won as he will snap them up with glee.

I have no plans to sell any share under .01. He won't be getting cheap shares from me and his crappy ability to photoshop no matter how much time he spends doing it is not going to lower the shareprice. I don't even understand what the point of the pictures were. Hmm.. I wonder if I photoshop enough pictures of Elon Musk I can probably get cheap tesla shares..
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So you found out he had the intention to scam investors, got caught, tweaked his thinghy and you stopped being suspicious at all? Shocked

Not quite. The original IPO was vague and allowed for the possibility of the CEO taking all profits before paying out any divs. It wasn't intentional, it was a loophole that needed closing. Ken quickly realised investors concerns were valid and he re-wrote the IPO with vastly improved terms for investors.
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Care to explain why you feel the need to hide behind multiple names?

Two names at two separate times.

The first was very very hard on AMC before Ken restructured the company as I thought it could be a scam attempt. After the complete re-write of the IPO Ken was no longer able to legally take all profits and shareholders were given a guarantee about divs up to 0.0025 so I saw that his intentions were honest. ...

Lol, "i thought Ken was scamming but then he promised me moar, and i became convinced that he's legit!" Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Ah! So instead of posting Nazi propaganda drawings, maybe you should start an online blog educating people about investment scams, and telling them about how people like me and Ken and VolanicEruption are ruing YOUR bitcoin.

With or without your help, there will be noobs ready to buy Active Mining stock and take it off my hands. You do realize that your strategy is ineffective and in fact you are just making the delusional cheerleaders believe more and are getting the noobs excitedto buy from me once the exchange opens.
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Lorenzo:

I understand that my efforts have not been wholly successful.  It saddens me that you plan to dump your bag on some unsuspecting n00b.
This knowledge, reaffirmed by your reminder, only strengthens my resolve.


The problem is, no one on the forum has any confidence or trust in any of your posts. Your photoshops do not stop people from investing. I don't think you have stopped 1 person from investing in this company. So "not been wholly successful" is a complete exaggeration. They have been completely worthless. You have wasted your time and money by visiting this forum; not ours. You have wasted your own resources for no gain, and by the sheer amount of time you spent on this forum, you have wasted a huge amount of your own time and money. Now who is the better investor here?

JoTheKhan:
Please understand just how ludicrous you sound telling me i have wasted my time and money by posting here, while you have "invested" in Ken.
Do think about that for a few minutes before replying.
Granted, the cancer that is Active Mining is not in remission, thank you for reminding me to redouble my efforts.

Once prices hit above IPO on the exchange I will be well into the green my friend, if they don't already hit IPO prices once the exchange goes live. Also, you have lost far more time visiting this forum than I have by investing in this company. Once again, you have made the far poorer choice here.

Did you take a few minutes to think about that before you replied? By the quickness of your reply I am suspecting that the answer is no.
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