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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 256. (Read 771288 times)

legendary
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The letter casts doubts on Ken's honesty.

He already stated that the first products had been shipped to customers so why demand verification?

If I was him that's what I'd be confused about. "But I already told them we had shipped our first products."

Where is the mystical customer? We have no customer evidence.

We just want more information and are all in the dark.

You're the only shareholder that does not want more information, and that is very interesting, considering you're one of the largest.
legendary
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I can guarantee you are the only one who feels this way Wink

VE, any post? I really want to know about Babefoot!! Come on! Is he a spy?
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
The letter casts doubts on Ken's honesty.

He already stated that the first products had been shipped to customers so why demand verification?

If I was him that's what I'd be confused about. "But I already told them we had shipped our first products."
legendary
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This thread has COMPLETELY lost it's mind.

So we are now asking the CEO not to cash in his shares for profit until after he has proved to us he's not  a scammer?  Even if Ken WAS at it, his agreeing to this wouldn't scupper his evil agenda.

I will not +1 the open letter because while it started well and discussed the issue of communication, I don't agree that making ultimatums like this one is in any way productive.



Ken can cash share for profit no worries, but Ken bought quite high and would have to sell at a loss. It would not be good for our reputation with the CEO cashing in shares at a loss.

Anyway the main reason I +1'd was because I want to see more transparency and the shareholders being more united is a good thing.
sr. member
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This thread has COMPLETELY lost it's mind.

So we are now asking the CEO not to cash in his shares for profit until after he has proved to us he's not  a scammer?  Even if Ken WAS at it, his agreeing to this wouldn't scupper evil agenda.

I will not +1 the open letter because while it started well and discussed the issue of communication, I don't agree that making ultimatums like this one is in any way productive.



I can guarantee you are the only one who feels this way Wink
hero member
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myBitcoin.Garden
This thread has COMPLETELY lost it's mind.

So we are now asking the CEO not to cash in his shares for profit until after he has proved to us he's not  a scammer?  Even if Ken WAS at it, his agreeing to this wouldn't scupper his evil agenda.

I will not +1 the open letter because while it started well and discussed the issue of communication, I don't agree that making ultimatums like this one is in any way productive.

legendary
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it was BS

Please have some evidence with this next post, because you're most certainly a liar.

It has something to do with "babefoot" and who he really is

Ok, the guy who took the photos back in the old thread of Ken and the facilities?
sr. member
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It has something to do with "babefoot" and who he really is
sr. member
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I have a big post today, folks...
I have done a lot of research and found some very disturbing things.  I don't even care if it makes my shares worthless, everybody needs to know this.


Then please make the post, you have been withholding this information for a long time now.

If I were you I would wait until we open on Crypto-Trade, you can sell 50,000 shares for 25 Bitcoin and then post the information. I'm not sure why you want to make the shares worthless before you get out...

Also you said that a customer is going to take delivery of an ActiveMining machine, is this apart of your post or was that BS?

it was BS
legendary
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I have a big post today, folks...
I have done a lot of research and found some very disturbing things.  I don't even care if it makes my shares worthless, everybody needs to know this.


Then please make the post, you have been withholding this information for a long time now.

If I were you I would wait until we open on Crypto-Trade, you can sell 50,000 shares for 25 Bitcoin and then post the information. I'm not sure why you want to make the shares worthless before you get out...

Also you said that a customer is going to take delivery of an ActiveMining machine, is this apart of your post or was that BS?
legendary
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An illusion that people have a say in their fate, that they could alter it through meaningless, repetitive acts, is crucial for the psychic wellbeing of the masses.

Hey 48 weeks, we know we are powerless and the situation we're in does not elude us. We are doing all we can to get a little more information out of Ken and this is simply our latest attempt.

Here we have asked a question about Ken's intention to hold or sell his shares once our security is live on Crypto-Trade. In fact we learn something even if Ken does not reply.
sr. member
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I have a big post today, folks...
I have done a lot of research and found some very disturbing things.  I don't even care if it makes my shares worthless, everybody needs to know this.
legendary
Activity: 1176
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Before just blindly +1'ing this.

Is there any way we can prove Ken would do this even if agreed?

If it cannot be proven without a doubt then it's worthless. Not saying he will but he could just agree and then do as he pleases regardless without any of us knowing.

There has to be some kind of accountability else this is just an empty promise.

I understand Ken could easily lie, however it's a good first step if Ken can respond to this most quoted post. Smiley

There really is no way to prove that Ken has kept his word.

The only way that might work is perhaps if Ken made a personal account, added his shares and then got the admin of CT to verify they have not moved.

I think the main point here is getting Ken to be a little more transparent with the shareholders.
hero member
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
Oops I guess I didn't get the memo from the lemming commitee.

Thanks, you're so helpful. Whilst we are working to help our futures you sit back and call names.

No name calling here, unless your consider a small woodland creature a bad word...

But seriously, Ken doesn't seem to want to or have the power to divulge any of this information that we've all been asking for umpteen times ad infinitum.
hero member
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Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do.
Ken,

I want to say first, thank you for the work you are doing for the company and your resolve in operating in such a competitive environment and with so much at stake.

For the past several hours, many of the top shareholders have met in IRC and discussed the "communication issue" as we see it. We have received sporadic communication from you for various reasons having to do with operating under an NDA as well as SEC guidelines. We also understand the desire to keep certain proprietary information hidden from competitors.

Due to communication being so tight, we are in a position where we do not currently KNOW why chips are delayed. It was implied that this was a choice made by you so that Intellihash could be implemented. We believe that competing effectively is necessary for AMC's success, however we have no information as to how Intellihash affects our timeline.

While we are not yet listed on an exchange, we are making a public request that you assent to not sell any of your personal ACTM shares until it can be verified that customers have received their shipped orders and until shareholders have a more clear understanding of the timeline moving forward.

This is simply a request to demonstrate good-faith and help re-establish trust among shareholders.

Please respond to this before we go live on Crypto-Trade.

Thank you for everything and keep up the great work!

 -- ActiveMining shareholders

Before just blindly +1'ing this.

Is there any way we can prove Ken would do this even if agreed?

If it cannot be proven without a doubt then it's worthless. Not saying he will but he could just agree and then do as he pleases regardless without any of us knowing.

There has to be some kind of accountability else this is just an empty promise.
newbie
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Ken,

I want to say first, thank you for the work you are doing for the company and your resolve in operating in such a competitive environment and with so much at stake.

For the past several hours, many of the top shareholders have met in IRC and discussed the "communication issue" as we see it. We have received sporadic communication from you for various reasons having to do with operating under an NDA as well as SEC guidelines. We also understand the desire to keep certain proprietary information hidden from competitors.

Due to communication being so tight, we are in a position where we do not currently KNOW why chips are delayed. It was implied that this was a choice made by you so that Intellihash could be implemented. We believe that competing effectively is necessary for AMC's success, however we have no information as to how Intellihash affects our timeline.

While we are not yet listed on an exchange, we are making a public request that you assent to not sell any of your personal ACTM shares until it can be verified that customers have received their shipped orders and until shareholders have a more clear understanding of the timeline moving forward.

This is simply a request to demonstrate good-faith and help re-establish trust among shareholders.

Please respond to this before we go live on Crypto-Trade.

Thank you for everything and keep up the great work!

 -- ActiveMining shareholders

+1
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
Oops I guess I didn't get the memo from the lemming commitee.

Thanks, you're so helpful. Whilst we are working to help our futures you sit back and call names.
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
decentralize EVERYTHING...
Oops I guess I didn't get the memo from the lemming commitee.
newbie
Activity: 26
Merit: 0
Ken,

I want to say first, thank you for the work you are doing for the company and your resolve in operating in such a competitive environment and with so much at stake.

For the past several hours, many of the top shareholders have met in IRC and discussed the "communication issue" as we see it. We have received sporadic communication from you for various reasons having to do with operating under an NDA as well as SEC guidelines. We also understand the desire to keep certain proprietary information hidden from competitors.

Due to communication being so tight, we are in a position where we do not currently KNOW why chips are delayed. It was implied that this was a choice made by you so that Intellihash could be implemented. We believe that competing effectively is necessary for AMC's success, however we have no information as to how Intellihash affects our timeline.

While we are not yet listed on an exchange, we are making a public request that you assent to not sell any of your personal ACTM shares until it can be verified that customers have received their shipped orders and until shareholders have a more clear understanding of the timeline moving forward.

This is simply a request to demonstrate good-faith and help re-establish trust among shareholders.

Please respond to this before we go live on Crypto-Trade.

Thank you for everything and keep up the great work!

 -- ActiveMining shareholders
hero member
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Merit: 500
www.coinschedule.com
Ken,

I want to say first, thank you for the work you are doing for the company and your resolve in operating in such a competitive environment and with so much at stake.

For the past several hours, many of the top shareholders have met in IRC and discussed the "communication issue" as we see it. We have received sporadic communication from you for various reasons having to do with operating under an NDA as well as SEC guidelines. We also understand the desire to keep certain proprietary information hidden from competitors.

Due to communication being so tight, we are in a position where we do not currently KNOW why chips are delayed. It was implied that this was a choice made by you so that Intellihash could be implemented. We believe that competing effectively is necessary for AMC's success, however we have no information as to how Intellihash affects our timeline.

While we are not yet listed on an exchange, we are making a public request that you assent to not sell any of your personal ACTM shares until it can be verified that customers have received their shipped orders and until shareholders have a more clear understanding of the timeline moving forward.

This is simply a request to demonstrate good-faith and help re-establish trust among shareholders.

Please respond to this before we go live on Crypto-Trade.

Thank you for everything and keep up the great work!

 -- ActiveMining shareholders

+1
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