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Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 399. (Read 771302 times)

sr. member
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To be honest I find him to be one of the worst "Trolls" and "Manipulators" on this thread, intentionally or not.
I believe he causes more damage as the persona of the "worried shareholder" and "FUD" spreader than all of the other infamous accounts on here.
sr. member
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I just want this crap to be over with and get the mining going to get the share price back up.

This entire project rests on two main things at the moment:

1) eASIC delivers our chips.
2) Ken gets the eASIC chips into miners as fast as eASIC delivers them.

At the moment we are still at step 1, and thus have nothing to do but bitch and speculate.

Nice bit of FUD drawingthesun, how is your 'I will buy your shares for pennies' thread going? Any takers yet Mr FUD?

What an ass! I considered him to be just a whiny little bitch, but now I see he's a greedy little bitch too.
sr. member
Activity: 266
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I just want this crap to be over with and get the mining going to get the share price back up.

This entire project rests on two main things at the moment:

1) eASIC delivers our chips.
2) Ken gets the eASIC chips into miners as fast as eASIC delivers them.

At the moment we are still at step 1, and thus have nothing to do but bitch and speculate.

Nice bit of FUD drawingthesun, how is your 'I will buy your shares for pennies' thread going? Any takers yet Mr FUD?
legendary
Activity: 1176
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True. All I really want is for it to get back up to .0025 to get my BTC back.

Lucky you, I need them to go higher than that to be square.

I did just get my dividend.

You just got your dividend? I thought Ken was waiting until the 13th November.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I just want this crap to be over with and get the mining going to get the share price back up.

This entire project rests on two main things at the moment:

1) eASIC delivers our chips.
2) Ken gets the eASIC chips into miners as fast as eASIC delivers them.

At the moment we are still at step 1, and thus have nothing to do but bitch and speculate.
True. All I really want is for it to get back up to .0025 to get my BTC back.

I did just get my dividend.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1015
I just want this crap to be over with and get the mining going to get the share price back up.

This entire project rests on two main things at the moment:

1) eASIC delivers our chips.
2) Ken gets the eASIC chips into miners as fast as eASIC delivers them.

At the moment we are still at step 1, and thus have nothing to do but bitch and speculate.
sr. member
Activity: 378
Merit: 250
I just want this crap to be over with and get the mining going to get the share price back up.
hero member
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Merit: 500
myBitcoin.Garden
Just transferred my shares to AMC-TENDER. I hope to end my Bitfunder experience soon. Why on earth did I even bother to get my WeExchange account verified.  :-(

Does anybody know if I can somehow delete the documents and data that are unfortunately stored at WeExchange right know?

I'm in the same boat and want these digital copies destroyed.

Why are you concerned now and you weren't when you submitted them?

That is a good question.  I did have concerns about uploading them and decided to take the risk in order to prevent myself from being locked out of trading.

Wanting them deleted now is an attempt to limit exposure in the hope that the shorter time they are on the server, the lower the chances of foul play.
member
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why should I send all my shares to a person I don't know? Who is AMC-TENDER?

Ok, now I got that it's an official posting. - Ok! I will do that now.
member
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Step-By-Step Guide to Tendering Shares to ActiveMining

So I figured I'd do this for those who have absolutely no idea.  I realize that most of us DO know what we're doing, but there's no point in having people left behind because they're too afraid to ask.

I use bitcoin-qt for my Bitcoin dealings. I don't have much trust in the online wallets at this point, so I'll provide steps based on what I know.  If you would prefer to use another wallet, do your research and don't be afraid to ask questions to determine if it is right for you.  For example, make sure you can sign messages from whatever client you intend to use.

Part 1.  Bitcoin-qt

1. Google for and install the official bitcoin-qt client on your computer.  In fact, just to save you some time, go here: http://bitcoin.org/en/download

2. Once the software is installed, run it.  It will create a local wallet.dat file for you among other things.  This wallet.dat file is what stores your bitcoin addresses, balances, etc.  Never lose this file.  This is important.  You lose the file you lose your Scrooge McDuck riches.  Simple as that.  Also note that the client will start to download the entire blockchain.  It weighs in at 10+ gigs right now. If you have a terribly sucky low-bandwidth cap service from your ISP, just bear in mind that this could up your numbers.

3. First and foremost. SECURE YOUR WALLET!  Here's how...

     - Under the "Settings" menu item, click "Encrypt Wallet"
     

     - Enter a passphrase.  This is possibly the most important password you'll ever enter. Please ensure it's STRONG.  10+ characters, random letters numbers and symbols. add caps.  For example:  "yT658!{93%$#uyhgjKIyshI"  ... Write this down somewhere and keep it safe!

4. Go to the "Receive" tab.
     

5. Click on "New Address" at the bottom-left


6. Enter an appropriate name for this address so you know what it represents.  When you click Ok, a new address will be generated for this account.


7. You should now see the account you created with it's address in the grid. Congrats.



Part 2.  BitFunder

1. Log in to BitFunder.com

2. Go to "Settings" in the upper-right hand corner.


3. Under "Public Bitcoin Address" on the right side, copy and paste the newly created address from bitcoin-qt into the new address field.  Double-check to ensure you're copying the right address!


4. After saving the public address, click on the "Transfer" menu item on the left-hand menu.


5. Enter the appropriate information on the transfer screen. make sure to enter ALL shares you own of ActiveMining into the "Share Amount" field.  no use in keeping any of them around BitFunder now.  Oh, I already tendered mine, so sorry for the sloppy paint job. Worth a chuckle at least, right? Wink

NOTE: make sure you get the user name correct!  It's "AMC-TENDER". No spaces!


6. Once you click the "Transfer!" button, that's it that's all.  make sure you get your info right before you click.  If your palms are sweating, good!

7. Click on the "Transactions" menu item. You'll see the latest transaction history menu item reads "Send Transfer To: AMC-TENDER" along with the number of shares you transfered.  TAKE A SCREENSHOT OF THIS PAGE AND SAVE IT!  The entire browser window.  ALL of it. Include the blue bar at the top too with your username.  This will be helpful in case there are complications in the future.


Well that's it.  Message signing was already covered, and we don't really have official word on what to do yet from Ken, so just complete this guide and hang tight for more info when it's time.

Hopefully this helped a few of you anyway.  If I missed something, let me know.

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Do we still expect a P/L statement to be announced next week?



hero member
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
pm-ing ken all field defeats the purpose of verifying.

i believe you only need pm the signature, once asked, and ken uses his transaction log which contain the info pieces that he told you to sign with it in first place

edit: in correct format, if he asks

there's no need to analyze or debate this, it's just an example for the sake of learning how it works. Ken may do it totally different.
sr. member
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okay I've reconstructed an old post from CanaryInTheMine regarding how to sign messages with Bitcoin-Qt
This is only an example as the message contents for this situation is different from what Ken will require you to put in the message field (most likely number of shares transferred instead of shipping address) but the result is the same as you want to generate a signature string associated with your PUBLIC BITCOIN ADDRESS that you will send to Ken when the time comes:

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The message signing process is to prove you own a certain bitcoin address.

If using bitcoin-qt:
Click file, then sign message:



A new secure message window will open:
In line 1 - enter your PUBLIC BITCOIN ADDRESS you sent the shares from on BitFunder
In line 2 - construct a detailed message about the number of shares you transferred, timestamp, etc.
Then click the button labeled Sign Message (3)



After you click that button, you will get this message:



Field 1-PUBLIC BITCOIN ADDRESS that you used in line 1  (this is the address recorded as your BitFunder account number)
Field 2-message entered in line 2 (number of shares you transferred, timestamp, etc.)
Field 3-signature that bitcoin-qt populated.

At some point, when asked, you will copy/paste all three of the above fields contents and PM this to Ken.
Ken will use these 3 pieces of information, in the verify tab, to confirm that all the information is correct.

Do not make any of the info public.  Make sure everything is copy and pasted verbatim.  

pm-ing ken all field defeats the purpose of verifying.

i believe you only need pm the signature, once asked, and ken uses his transaction log which contain the info pieces that he told you to sign with it in first place

edit: in correct format, if he asks
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Just transferred my shares to AMC-TENDER. I hope to end my Bitfunder experience soon. Why on earth did I even bother to get my WeExchange account verified.  :-(

Does anybody know if I can somehow delete the documents and data that are unfortunately stored at WeExchange right know?

I'm in the same boat and want these digital copies destroyed.

Why are you concerned now and you weren't when you submitted them?
sr. member
Activity: 476
Merit: 250
@knybe

what happens if some one made a mistake signing a message, say a typo

can he redo and sign again? or its one time

That is a question for Ken but I would image yes… Although if you are copy/pasting the information verbatim, then there will be no mistake.

No problem, we will give all investors all the chances to prove they own the shares.  We don't want anyone to lose any of our shares.

Thanks Ken. Any updates in regards to how the future looks with how shares will be traded? If you can give us little bit of information it would be helpful.

We are working on the details at the moment.  We want our shares to be trade-able, within the legal limits of the law.
sr. member
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@knybe

what happens if some one made a mistake signing a message, say a typo

can he redo and sign again? or its one time

That is a question for Ken but I would image yes… Although if you are copy/pasting the information verbatim, then there will be no mistake.

No problem, we will give all investors all the chances to prove they own the shares.  We don't want anyone to lose any of our shares.

Thanks Ken. Any updates in regards to how the future looks with how shares will be traded? If you can give us little bit of information it would be helpful.
legendary
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Touchdown
So is it still necessary to transfer the shares in BF or (now that BF is closing) is it just a case of sending an email with a signed message?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
@knybe

what happens if some one made a mistake signing a message, say a typo

can he redo and sign again? or its one time

That is a question for Ken but I would image yes… Although if you are copy/pasting the information verbatim, then there will be no mistake.

No problem, we will give all investors all the chances to prove they own the shares.  We don't want anyone to lose any of our shares.
newbie
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Boy, how much do we all hope this is going to be the last we have to deal with transferring shares and all the questions that come from that. Hoping for some colored coins coming around the bend soon.
hero member
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decentralize EVERYTHING...
@knybe

what happens if some one made a mistake signing a message, say a typo

can he redo and sign again? or its one time

That is a question for Ken but I would image yes… Although if you are copy/pasting the information verbatim, then there will be no mistake.
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