god what a horror show.
would love to go back to the days of the "the wall."
Topic: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread [Self-Moderated] - page 478. (Read 771529 times)
October 08, 2013, 05:21:17 PM
October 08, 2013, 05:17:11 PM
I wanna buy direct shares
Or ken can you open up on havelock?
Or ken can you open up on havelock?
Last I checked they were not accepting new securities. Also, you'd better believe Topace won't touch US securities with a ten foot pole after all this drama. Us Americans are hung out to dry, man. Land of the free...
October 08, 2013, 05:17:05 PM
What if you just took the company private and avoided all this? 
October 08, 2013, 05:16:50 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
It will not be any different, it is there in the even Bitfunder was to close down, to protect our Investors. At this point we see that Bitfunder is staying open, unlike BTC-TC, to non US citizens.
Would you consider opening up an exchange for US holders to trade ActM shares on?
+1
Ken mentioned that there is a exchange that is in the works in case BitFunder has to shut down. Would you be able to open that up for us? (US citizens)
October 08, 2013, 05:15:34 PM
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Would you consider opening up an exchange for US holders to trade ActM shares on?
Would you consider opening up an exchange for US holders to trade ActM shares on?
Translation: Ken, are you prepared to become a felon?
October 08, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
I wanna buy direct shares
Or ken can you open up on havelock?
Or ken can you open up on havelock?
October 08, 2013, 05:13:46 PM
Does this run the risk of making ActM itself in violation of US law? Which unfortunatly happens to be grounded on US soil...
I thought it was based in belize. But unfortunately, it doesnt change anything. What is illegal is targeting unregistered securities to US citizens. Doesnt matter if the securities are shares in a US or Belize company. The only way around that is registering the securities with the SEC (and every other national security commission where you want to sell shares, the regulations are quite similar all over the world).
October 08, 2013, 05:11:43 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
It will not be any different, it is there in the even Bitfunder was to close down, to protect our Investors. At this point we see that Bitfunder is staying open, unlike BTC-TC, to non US citizens.
Thanks for the quick reply. Any solutions for US investors?
Yes
Edit: I am sure there will be discussions on the board.
October 08, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
It will not be any different, it is there in the even Bitfunder was to close down, to protect our Investors. At this point we see that Bitfunder is staying open, unlike BTC-TC, to non US citizens.
Would you consider opening up an exchange for US holders to trade ActM shares on?
October 08, 2013, 05:09:28 PM
Ken: "Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago"
Uh? Thanks for telling us...
Uh? Thanks for telling us...
All we could do is what we have done. We did not know for sure what was going to happen, but it has happened before to the "Global Bitcoin Stock Exchange".
October 08, 2013, 05:09:14 PM
Ken,
at this point wouldn't it be best to pull all US based shares off of BitFunder and go direct or something? I don't want anything to do with BitFunder.
at this point wouldn't it be best to pull all US based shares off of BitFunder and go direct or something? I don't want anything to do with BitFunder.
Does this run the risk of making ActM itself in violation of US law? Which unfortunatly happens to be grounded on US soil...
October 08, 2013, 05:08:05 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
It will not be any different, it is there in the even Bitfunder was to close down, to protect our Investors. At this point we see that Bitfunder is staying open, unlike BTC-TC, to non US citizens.
Thanks for the quick reply. Any solutions for US investors?
October 08, 2013, 05:07:50 PM
What will happen to US shareholders? If we do nothing.
+1
This is something that needs to be answered.
October 08, 2013, 05:06:04 PM
Ken,
at this point wouldn't it be best to pull all US based shares off of BitFunder and go direct or something? I don't want anything to do with BitFunder.
at this point wouldn't it be best to pull all US based shares off of BitFunder and go direct or something? I don't want anything to do with BitFunder.
October 08, 2013, 05:05:45 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
It will not be any different, it is there in the even Bitfunder was to close down, to protect our Investors. At this point we see that Bitfunder is staying open, unlike BTC-TC, to non US citizens.
October 08, 2013, 05:05:31 PM
Ok Kslaughter, you have made me feel alot better,i will be holding my active mining shares,(i'm non us citizen) thanks
October 08, 2013, 05:03:13 PM
Also, those transfer which I was going to finish transferring tomorrow before the dividend payment, I will start transferring as soon as possible.
Yeah but...
how do we get dividends now?
We will setup a system to pay dividends to your Bitcoin address on Bitfunder, this is what the address had been set up for.
October 08, 2013, 05:02:49 PM
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed.
Isn't BitFunder offshore of USA?
How will your "offshore exchange" be any different?
Sorry, but this is the question that needs an answer. Personal share holding rebuttals can wait.
October 08, 2013, 05:00:42 PM
In the long-term this is great for Bitfunder.. The effort Ukyo is making will be viewed in a positive light by governments in all countries.
edit: Ken, you shouldn't be telling us that you don't hold any shares. This contradicts what you have already told us before.. it would have been better not to comment about that at all..
edit: Ken, you shouldn't be telling us that you don't hold any shares. This contradicts what you have already told us before.. it would have been better not to comment about that at all..
@VolanicEruptor, You need to understand the structure of the company, before you start telling me that I am contradicting what I have said in the past. I do own ActiveMining shares; however, I do not own Active Mining Corporation shares.
October 08, 2013, 04:57:14 PM
trading has been turned off to US citizens....
wow didn't see that coming... but then you never do on a long con.
wow didn't see that coming... but then you never do on a long con.
Active Mining Corporation, seen this coming a long time ago, and has taken steps including incorporating in Belize and creating our own exchange in the event one is needed. We have also retain legal council (Marco Santori of Nesenoff & Miltenberg LLP) and a member of the Bitcoin Foundation to advise us on our position as a Belize Corporation.
My status as a US citizen should not affect Active Mining Corporation as I do not own any of the shares of the corporation.
Since ActiveMining is a Belize corporation ( I have sent documents to Ukyo showing our incorporation in Belize ) trading of ActiveMining on Bitfunder should not be affected in any way except the loss of US Citizens account. Now would be an excellent time to pick up those extra shares at a bargin price if you are not a US citizen.
Also, those transfer which I was going to finish transferring tomorrow before the dividend payment, I will start transferring as soon as possible.
Marco is the right choice. He is my attorney as well.
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