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Topic: Ads for online gambling should be banned. - page 10. (Read 1397 times)

legendary
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This shouldn't affect the signature campaigns for crypto casinos because it's unlikely that the forum admins will cooperate with them. On the other hand, most crypto casinos have Australia under their geo-restriction list, so they're not losing anything if gambling ads do get banned in Australia in the future. I doubt they can stop every gambling advertisement we see on different platforms when they're only limited to the ones under their control or until the other party agrees with their plan.

Of course because each country has its own laws regarding gambling and gambling ads. There are already some countries where gambling is banned, but id did not affect bitcointalk, just as there are countries were bitcoin is banned, but it doesn't stop people from these countries from making accounts ere and being a part of the community.
Bitcointalk staff cannot obey every single rule imposed by every single country, because it's impossible, especially since some of them contradict each other.

legendary
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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Wow, the threshold for banning adverts is that they are annoying? That would wipe out pretty much 80-90%+ of advertising if it's the only criteria. It's pathetically vague and they clearly don't want to go all out against gambling companies with actual reasons, I could see such logic facing a lot of trouble in court if it was the main instigator of new laws being set up. It would not affect bitcointalk in the slightest because as far as I know the servers are not based in Australia and the Australian government has zero jurisdiction over it. You need to learn more about how laws and international enforcement works before suggesting such a silly thing in future. It wouldn't affect the casinos either, because they'll likely be making money from other markets instead and just stop paying for advertising in Asutralia.
hero member
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
looks like some answers have been answered but I just want to add that gambling ads can't seem to be stopped for several reasons and the main thing is that the article is only in certain countries and if gambling ads are banned what about countries that allow gambling? and what about the name of the gambling site that is written on the jerseys of the players of the football team or other sports?

so there is no need to think too complicated because until whenever gambling advertisements can never be banned for various reasons that cannot be annulled.
hero member
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.
They will always claim that gambling ads are the main cause of gambling addiction in the country so it needs to be checked. I don't subscribe to banning these adverts totally but it can be regulated. There should be another way of controlling these adverts to protect underage gamblers. The gambling sector is providing jobs for many people, this policy can lead to job loss.

The government can not pretend that it is not getting a substantial amount of revenue from this sector. This is just a recommendation by a legislative inquiry, let's see if it will be implemented. After all some leading politicians received funds from gaming companies during the campaign. An example is Michelle Rowland, the communication minister of Australia, whose ministry will enforce the ban. But it is good that the gaming sector has been given three years to look for alternative means of advert.


If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
The world is like a system and each subsystem depend on each other to function properly. It might have an indirect effect but it will be insignificant. I don't also think that Australian laws are binding on the forum. This forum has its laws and it is not influenced by the law of any country. So gambling ads will continue in bitcointalk. The only effect is that accessing the forum might be restricted because of the gambling ads in the forum.
sr. member
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I don't see how banning ads in Australia can affect this forum. The article did not say say online gambling ads should be banned world wide, its just in Australia. I also don't think they can stop people from Australia from using the forum except the site would be banned in Australia, which can still be bypassed.

I'm not in support of banning ads for online gambling. Every company should have a right to advertise its business, as far as that company is allowed to do business in that particular country.
Alcohol also causes damage, but alcohol companies are not banned from having online ads in Australia.
legendary
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This shouldn't affect the signature campaigns for crypto casinos because it's unlikely that the forum admins will cooperate with them. On the other hand, most crypto casinos have Australia under their geo-restriction list, so they're not losing anything if gambling ads do get banned in Australia in the future. I doubt they can stop every gambling advertisement we see on different platforms when they're only limited to the ones under their control or until the other party agrees with their plan.
full member
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.

With the developing technology that we have right now, online advertisement is the best marketing strategy that casinos businesses could do and it is visible on all types of social media platforms and popular sites. We can't get rid of them because they are even present in some TV ads. The best thing that we can do is to guide and advise the younger generation about the risks of gambling addiction.
We should still do our part as adults in reminding the younger generation just so they wouldn't get attracted to gambling ads. I don't think signature campaigns should be banned because we're on the right platform to do it. Most of us here are adults and are aware of how gambling works. Gambling promotions here are appropriate since they won't affect most gamblers negatively especially now that topics about gambling addictions are already existing on this forum.
hero member
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The government may ban gambling advertisements in all media, but that will not stop gambling advertisements from appearing in other media, especially since the spread of the internet is now getting better. Casinos can find a place to promote, and maybe they can further expand their business from a new place.

And if it's true that the ban will be enforced, I don't think it will matter because people will be able to find those gambling ads again or have already found a casino that suits them, so they don't have to look for another one. And I don't think it will impact Bitcointalk because this forum is independent and not bound by anything.

Especially because casinos can contact the webmaster of a websites like a well-known crypto blogs/news which they could buy an adspace or banner on their pages. This had been known to happen especially if they see the blog is commonly viewed by crypt users.

Advertising is a big industry and there are adnetworks pretty much brokering traffic to websites to target audiences that are in their demographics. The government of Australia may implement banning gambling-related ads but the websites can still serve those ads, it's unstoppable.
legendary
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We are all trying to make a living here.
Yes, ann threads are to promote a specific project likewise with normal advertisements but a more interactive one. Difference is using personalities which are just popular. Meaning, audiences in ann threads of this forum are atleast aware of what they are engaging themselves with. Unlike with mainstream ads wherein some of the audience are just hooked because of the personalities used to run the ad.

But if it is, what's the point? 'coz it promotes gambling and gambling is an addictive activity? We all know that but no one pushes or requires us to engage into it,other than ourselves basically. It would take one's initiative to do so. If this is due to country limitations, still this is web 3.0 wherein governments has nothing to do with.
legendary
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
in the title of the article alone, you'll already know that the gambling ban will only be in Australia, not sure why you thought this would affect gambling casinos that advertise here in the forum.

anyway, I am still glad they are taking steps on trying to prevent the younger generation from being too exposed to gambling.
hero member
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Are you aware of any bitcointalk's casinos being promoted in Australia during the sports matches or at the local media? It's hard for me to say, because I don't have access to the local content of that country, but that would be the only reasonable justification to say casinos promoted here could be affected negatively by this new measure by australian politicians. If not, nothing will change for crypto casinos, as their target public is gathered on another platforms and through another marketing models.

As I observe, crypto casinos promote their brands on platforms with global access, without targeting specific countries or local medias to do the advertisement job for them. Even on this matter crypto seems pretty decentralized, and that is good, because such censorship from governments don't have a heavy impact on the gambling industry.
hero member
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I don't know anything about gambling in australia and for that reason I had to resort to google, I did a little research to understand why politicians want to adopt these measures, as I could see from various sources that I could read and that the gambling situation in australia is something very serious and worrying, to have a little idea, in this article:

Gambling Addiction in Australia: Highest Percentage of Gamblers in the World

Australians have already been accused of being the guys who are most addicted to gambling, I don't know to what extent these data can be true because politicians, when they don't want something, use TV channels and newspapers to manipulate information and create fear, terror, uncertainty and panic in people.
Thanks for the brief research you just made, letting us know what may have been the likely reason behind the ban motion made by the Australian parliament on gambling ads. And I also made my research checking if poverty might have also contributed to this increase in gambling addiction, and I got to find out that of the 26million population in Australia, more than 13% lives in poverty (i.e over 3,319,000, including 761,000 children), which is also likely to be the cause for those who might have seen gambling as the last hope of the common man due to governments failure to provide the basic needs of life and jobs to get the people to engage in meaningful activities. Because an idle mind is the devil's workshop.
hero member
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Did you know if there are many countries forbid gambling, but the casino is accept those countries and there's no problem if they want to gamble.
Yes, it's true that there are many countries out there that prohibit gambling, but some casinos still accept citizens of these countries to play gambling there.
But there are also not a few casinos that prohibit certain jurisdictions, it's just that this prohibition also has reasons that are quite clear so that gamblers from those countries really cannot play at casinos that have jurisdictions that prohibit them.
It's just that gamblers also have other ways that are quite risky, such as using PVN so that the IP address is not detected in which country the gambler lives.
hero member
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The government may ban gambling advertisements in all media, but that will not stop gambling advertisements from appearing in other media, especially since the spread of the internet is now getting better. Casinos can find a place to promote, and maybe they can further expand their business from a new place.

And if it's true that the ban will be enforced, I don't think it will matter because people will be able to find those gambling ads again or have already found a casino that suits them, so they don't have to look for another one. And I don't think it will impact Bitcointalk because this forum is independent and not bound by anything.
legendary
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each country makes laws and prohibitions based on the creation of well being of its citizens, I don't know anything about gambling in australia and for that reason I had to resort to google, I did a little research to understand why politicians want to adopt these measures, as I could see from various sources that I could read and that the gambling situation in australia is something very serious and worrying, to have a little idea, in this article:

Gambling Addiction in Australia: Highest Percentage of Gamblers in the World

Australians have already been accused of being the guys who are most addicted to gambling, I don't know to what extent these data can be true because politicians, when they don't want something, use TV channels and newspapers to manipulate information and create fear, terror, uncertainty and panic in people. only a person who lives in australia could tell us if this is really true or not, according to that article it says that more than 80% of the population of australia participates in games of chance, but it seems to me that this is not true, because the australia has 25.69 million people, it is not possible that another 20.00 million people are gambling

looking at this, I see something very wrong with the decision of these politicians, they will blame gambling because they probably don't want gambling in their country and not because gambling is a problem, with that OP you can see that in other countries in the world where people are more free, there is no problem in gambling and their governments are fine with that, so don't transform astralia's problem for the whole world
hero member
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Did you know if there are many countries forbid gambling, but the casino is accept those countries and there's no problem if they want to gamble.

Did you know if there are many countries have banned Bitcoin on everything e.g. buy, sell, mine and hold, but this forum still accept those countries and theymos created local board for them.

So what's it mean? other country laws can't intervene this forum.
legendary
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Bro, you need to know that the gambling industry existed before you were born into this world, estimated around 2300 BC. Maybe gambling wasn't the same as it is now, now it's sophisticated, people can bet online and use crypto currency, but from the past until now no one has been able to get rid of gambling advertisements, on the contrary gambling advertisements are wider and bigger.

You do not have the authority and power to prohibit gambling advertisements, even though you descend from the seventh heaven.



Bitcointalk is not a means and the main thing in gambling advertising, this gambling existed long before Bitcointalk was created in 2009, it seems you have to read and see this one news about: Top Social Media platforms and Policy Updates regarding Gambling Advertising.

A brief description of gambling advertising.
If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?
Not sure in that regard, the conclusion or the answer is below in the quote.

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Crafting the best iGaming content marketing strategies requires considering these policies. It starts with the platform you wish to use, whether it is Facebook, Twitch, TikTok, Twitter, or Google. These social media channels have different standings regarding betting-related advertising.

Gambling Isn’t Going Away, But Policies Have Become More Stringent.

I hope you understand advertising and the consequences of banning gambling ads on Bitcointalk.
hero member
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If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

It won't affect bitcointalk I don't think there are much casino operating from Australia on the forum unless the government target bitcointallk specifically then the forum has to willing restrict their members in Australia not to be available to view ads relating to online casinos.

Those the government of Australia are targeting are platforms like Google and YouTube that operate in the country and television commercial with that of radios as well. They'll have to avoid allowing gambling ads on their stations also doing sport games as they said.

Gambling has it negative effects and if it can't be contained then the solution is a ban as the government of Australia are suggesting. They could work out a solution to allow those ads while not endangering their citizens but that'll have to be done will the ads are still banned.
hero member
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This is just in Australia. It wil help younger people not be exposed to casinos. Even google ban gambling related ads and I think facebook as well.  But think if the ban includes the influencers, then influencers on social media will be affected and will lose casino sponsors.

Bitcointalk is different platform for advertising. I doubt it will affect the crypto advertising here. This is a specific crypto community.
hero member
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OP is not fully aware of the influence of Bitcointalk, and he undermines it, its only Australia I don't think there is a big concern at all, even big countries like China or the US cannot stop the casino industry from growing, Bitcointalk gambling section is already fully established that if only one country it will not have an impact on Bitcointalk and the whole online casino industry.
Yeah almost casinos in this forum use Curacao gambling license and they're prohibit people who live in US, China and other strict or private countries, but as we can see the demand of online casinos is still big. If there's a weak gambling license that not prohibit any countries, online casino will become very big because there's no limit for any countries to gamble.
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