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It said the ban should be implemented in four phases: first, prohibiting inducements and social media and online platforms, and ads during school drop off and pick-up times; second, banning “all online gambling advertising and commentary on odds, during and an hour either side of a sports broadcast”, on uniforms and in stadiums; third, banning broadcast ads between 6.00 am and 10.00 pm; and then finally a “by the end of year three, prohibition on all online gambling advertising and sponsorship”.

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Let's read it carefully on where they want to ban it.
They ain't the world government to do that kind of ban on different websites or forums. But if that forum is especially made for Australians then I guess they should abide by that law.
This movement will actually be not easy to implement. First, they also added the social media and online platforms. What? Tell Facebook and Twitter to stop the advertisements of gambling on their timeline. I don't think that is going to happen unless there is Facebook Australia and Twitter Australia only.
They should discuss this with the internet services to block such advertisements during the time given in the report.
The other recommendation can be done by their government but it will also be an intense fight for them.
But I do think this is going to be hard, I mean, some of them are not the gambling sites doing anymore, there are those who are looking for referrals that might flash the ads in some articles or blogs.

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Quote from: bittraffic on June 30, 2023, 02:45:16 AM

If the country is serious about banning it. But oftentimes, they are all just publications for the public. In reality, these politicians will need a source of funds for the government to run.
China looks serious about it but you can see they are building casinos outside their mainland. The government itself invests in casino buildings everywhere in Asia.

Online can be easier to ban since they can control ISP to do that for the government but then there are just lots of ways to bypass restrictions. So basically it's still for the show.

If the state really wants to ban gambling, it could lose one of the sources of funds that can provide large tax contributions because the gambling industry is a big business.
And I'm not sure the politicians in the country would agree because they may control the casinos in the country and take the profits for them.
And if the state bans it, they will also lose out on an additional source of income even though it may not be legal.
Maybe the government doesn't need to ban gambling, especially in countries that have allowed gambling for a long time, but the state can prohibit underage people from gambling.
If it is an online casino, the government should cooperate with ISPs in monitoring every connection made by its citizens so that the government can ask citizens who play gambling to report it.
It can control gamblers and the government can also see their activity in gambling through their respective ISPs.

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Quote from: TheGreatPython on June 30, 2023, 02:29:03 AM

Quote from: Doan9269 on June 28, 2023, 01:59:51 AM

Try to know this that gambling ads cannot be banned by any means, we have to know that except the gambling platforms decided to put a stop to them there may not be a means to avoid this incidence at all, the two sides involved in this mostly benefited from it which is the promoting casinos and the promoters themselves, some gamblers also make uses of this to their advantage because they get updates and offerers through this except for those not interested in seeing ads in their experience being online, the forum casinos has nothing to do with this either nor do they get affected by this decision since their own advertisement here is not by ads except for other platforms they also appears.

I believe for some reason, they are against online gambling, I've just read that online gambling or casinos are highly regulated in the country and now they are going to ban online gambling ads within the country, even though they allow casinos that operate under a license but since most gambling casinos that are available online, I'm not sure if they allow them or not and they only allow land-based casinos that are operating under a license.

And it's not true that gambling ads cannot be banned, they can ban them all over the internet and won't allow any service, website, or social networking site to display or run gambling ads within their country, we might think they can't do that but in reality, they can do that pretty easily.

If the country is serious about banning it. But oftentimes, they are all just publications for the public. In reality, these politicians will need a source of funds for the government to run.
China looks serious about it but you can see they are building casinos outside their mainland. The government itself invests in casino buildings everywhere in Asia.

Online can be easier to ban since they can control ISP to do that for the government but then there are just lots of ways to bypass restrictions. So basically it's still for the show.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 28, 2023, 01:59:51 AM

Try to know this that gambling ads cannot be banned by any means, we have to know that except the gambling platforms decided to put a stop to them there may not be a means to avoid this incidence at all, the two sides involved in this mostly benefited from it which is the promoting casinos and the promoters themselves, some gamblers also make uses of this to their advantage because they get updates and offerers through this except for those not interested in seeing ads in their experience being online, the forum casinos has nothing to do with this either nor do they get affected by this decision since their own advertisement here is not by ads except for other platforms they also appears.

I believe for some reason, they are against online gambling, I've just read that online gambling or casinos are highly regulated in the country and now they are going to ban online gambling ads within the country, even though they allow casinos that operate under a license but since most gambling casinos that are available online, I'm not sure if they allow them or not and they only allow land-based casinos that are operating under a license.

And it's not true that gambling ads cannot be banned, they can ban them all over the internet and won't allow any service, website, or social networking site to display or run gambling ads within their country, we might think they can't do that but in reality, they can do that pretty easily.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 06:52:54 AM

The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

Gambling is already part of everyone's culture. Even if there will be jobs and things as such but if a person has already been a gambler, you can't remove that on him unless he's the one that's gonna remove it for himself. And the better the life, the easier the gambler will take it place that he can gamble without having a problem because win or lose, there's still money that's gonna flow on him based on the life that he's got and the job that he's working on.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on June 29, 2023, 10:00:51 AM

Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 06:52:54 AM

The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

By this are you suggestive that gambling will go down or relegated to the background? No I don't think that is going to happen. No matter the jobs that government provide for her youth, gambling will still be there. The days we are are the days of new age and exploration, the youth are exploring all aspects of socialization and acculturation of which gambling is one of the top that people get to know what happens in other jurisdictions. And the gaming industry is fast growing , different sports find there way to bookies. The gambling adventure is now more of pleasure and fun that employed people find time for it also.

Yes, gambling has its own place even though there may be a ban or rejection, and we know that now in some countries gambling has been legalized, and that will create opportunities for other countries to follow the steps taken by countries that first legalized gambling.
And I agree with you, that now the game is much more developed and the development is indeed very fast. Bookies will always find a way for their goals to reach many people who in the end they will take to the gambling table. And from the article quoted by the OP, actually it only refers to one country and previously there were also many countries that banned gambling.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 29, 2023, 06:52:54 AM

The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

By this are you suggestive that gambling will go down or relegated to the background? No I don't think that is going to happen. No matter the jobs that government provide for her youth, gambling will still be there. The days we are are the days of new age and exploration, the youth are exploring all aspects of socialization and acculturation of which gambling is one of the top that people get to know what happens in other jurisdictions. And the gaming industry is fast growing , different sports find there way to bookies. The gambling adventure is now more of pleasure and fun that employed people find time for it also.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Since you are a newbie do not know Bitcointalk, and your post is misleading about how one country that will ban gambling ads can make an impact here in Bitcointalk, even casinos will not get harmed, your post is misleading, and you belittle the popularity of Bitcointalk, next time you create a topic get the fact right and do not make it misleading.
Australians are great gamblers and responsible too I'm sure they have a way to address this and they will not be alarmed.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 29, 2023, 05:23:25 AM

Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 05:17:43 AM

Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

If the people had been enjoying the governments and their relieve services to the people maybe there will be lesser concentration on the rate of growth in the way the people abuse things or get addicted when they know that they have an already made available means to finance themselves through government parliatives and other opportunities, they had better improve livew than ban on gambling or trying to regulate it while the people were struggling.

It's not that easy because it all depends on the citizens themselves whether they have the awareness and more advanced thinking to be able to live a normal life without gambling.
Even though the government provides large amounts of assistance, people's awareness about gambling cannot be changed, so it will only be the same where the assistance money is used as gambling capital.

The best solution is to provide jobs and also convenience in all social services so that automatically people can focus more on a better life and avoid all forms of risky actions such as gambling.

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Quote from: madnessteat on June 29, 2023, 05:17:43 AM

Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

If the people had been enjoying the governments and their relieve services to the people maybe there will be lesser concentration on the rate of growth in the way the people abuse things or get addicted when they know that they have an already made available means to finance themselves through government parliatives and other opportunities, they had better improve livew than ban on gambling or trying to regulate it while the people were struggling.

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Quote from: bakasabo on June 29, 2023, 04:57:21 AM

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Yes, this is another attempt by the Australian government to show how hard they are working to improve the lives of citizens, only they don't understand that life should be improved not by bans, but by innovations. I'm sure that this initiative will not lead to the reduction of gambling addiction among citizens, but it may encourage some segments of the population to seek other more dangerous entertainment.

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If Australia wants to ban online or simply gambling ads, then they must become second North Korea. The reason they want to ban gambling ads is because ads are annoying, and they raise gambling addiction. First, why dont they install ads blockers, or switch TV to other channel if they see ads there, or dont look at screen when they see ads. Increased numbers of addicted to gambling is a problem, but banning ads wont help. Why dont they ban movies tv series, because people see the there violence, alcohol and drugs? Why dont they ban whole internet, because there is so much dirt in there? Why dont they become completely isolated, if they are so good and dont want anything bad in their country?

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Am having a question to ask and if you can answer the question, am sure you will already have answer. Those bitcoin talk belongs to Australia? Which am sure your answer will be No. bitcointalk those not belong to any region so if Australia is banning gambling ads in all the sites in their country, then they don’t have any issue with forum here, no country can stop bitcointalk from marketing any gambling sites here, only the forum members can refuse to advertise a site if they think the site is a scam one. We have all seen different scam sites which people have being strictly warn not to advertise them, but no country can stop advertisement on the forum here.

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Quote from: Reatim on June 29, 2023, 12:54:19 AM

Why only banning ads? when they can ban gambling completely ? this sounds just Grandstanding but not truly for the goodness of their country .
if we are truly looking for the care of people then make gambling out and then problem will surely stopped .
problem will occur all the time as long as gambling is there .

They can not ban gambling completely because nowadays, people are so used to gambling that if one place is banned, they will find another place to gamble. They will go to the underground casinos around the city and play in the casinos. Maybe the government can only prevent people from going to legal casinos. However, the government can not prevent illegal casinos from growing and fulfilling the desires of people who still want to gamble. It needs awareness of people not to tempt by gambling ads so they can stay away from playing gambling.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on June 28, 2023, 10:23:55 PM

Although the OP has already been told that his argument is fundamentally flawed, I think there is an interesting point: how the banning of gambling ads in some countries should affect a global forum. So far nothing has happened, as I think the authorities have not focused on this forum and are more concerned with traditional and local media in their country, but there does seem to be a legal limbo in this respect.

of course the authorities will focus more on advertisements on local or traditional social media because of the greater influence that is faster through social media which is the current trend.
and as @Strongkored said that this forum is an open place and anything in this forum does not endorse anything including gambling ads.

so there is no reason whatsoever if one day the authorities ban forums from using gambling ads, as unfair.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Why only banning ads? when they can ban gambling completely ? this sounds just Grandstanding but not truly for the goodness of their country .
if we are truly looking for the care of people then make gambling out and then problem will surely stopped .
problem will occur all the time as long as gambling is there .

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Bitcointalk does not own a casino, the casino that currently has an announcement thread here has nothing to do with this forum and they are free to create threads because this is an open forum. I don't think it will affect any promotions or advertisements that casinos do in this forum and any regulations that appear will not 100% ban gambling but rather regulate it, you can see how gambling sites that sponsor UK football clubs will start to be banned displaying the logo on the club costume but can still display the name and logo on other parts, so the ban is definitely only on certain parts and because the money circulating from gambling sites is very large it is also needed by many sporting events to fund their events.

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Although the OP has already been told that his argument is fundamentally flawed, I think there is an interesting point: how the banning of gambling ads in some countries should affect a global forum. So far nothing has happened, as I think the authorities have not focused on this forum and are more concerned with traditional and local media in their country, but there does seem to be a legal limbo in this respect.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I don't think so!

From what I've seen, the ban should only be restricted to sites that are headquartered in Australia and bitcointalk.org certainly doesn't fit that.

Of course, they could extend the ban and perhaps force providers to block certain international sites, but I doubt that this would reduce the interest of advertisers here on the forum, whether in ad releases or subscription campaigns.

In my opinion, there is nothing to be afraid of based on this news.

Anyway, I believe that banning advertisements is something difficult to implement in a country, but I confess that advertisements for casinos should be better controlled so as not to reach children and teenagers so easily.

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Quote from: dothebeats on June 28, 2023, 06:10:41 PM

If this is what they're going after, perhaps they should also ban liquor and tobacco advertisements as well. Both of those are also addictive and can cause a lot of problems to the end-user but we're not batting an eye. Health complications on the packet of cigarettes shouldn't be enough; it should be a complete ban. Then again, if the industry does not have any backers on the government, it would be impossible to save it from these calls for strict rules and regulations.

They have been calling for this kind of ban for years now on different countries, but it's not really successful because other industries will also come along with it. They can tread ever so closely on getting this finalized but they know that their precious gold mines (or industries that they get their money from) will also be affected.

or they can alter the time when it is being promoted like middle of the night or something. just like many tobacco ads, at the end of the ad, they have disclaimer. so they can apply such type of disclaimer when it comes to gambling adverts as well.
let's admit the fact that the government is also earning huge amount of tax from gambling businesses. remember, during pandemic days, one of the very few businesses which survived was gambling industry (online), and that the government got a fair share of their revenue to sustain the financial needs of the government.

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