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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

I think before starting a discussion you should be able to grasp what you are talking about mate, so now that you mentioned Bitcointalk is bitcointalk from Australia? What you posted indicates Only Australian why will these effect bitcointalk OP? You can see that these exclusively effect only Australians and have nothing to do with bitcointalk or the globe.

Nevertheless, the Australians think that this may be done in order to eradicate or lessen the country's growing gambling addiction. If this is what they intended, I agree that it would be a wise choice also.

The Australians maybe think that this may be done since they they maybe that the number of gambling addictions in their nation is rising steadily. If this is what they meant, I agree that it would be a wise choice, by introducing these method of stopping gambling ads advertisement.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on July 13, 2023, 05:58:04 AM

But as for gambling, there are a lot of government around the world is that totally against it. So maybe we can't see those ads anymore or anywhere. As compare to smoking and cigarette ads that are everywhere and even minors have access to it.

I doubt this because gambling has grown more than expected compare to smoking and cigarette. I don't know what the Australian authority foresees but restriction or banning of online gambling ads will not have much effect considering the awareness gambling has created around the world already. I disagree with you on the statement emboldened above. Gambling is more and easily accessible for minors than cigarettes. Smoking is more regulated than gambling hence, it's operation are being carried out on a low key.

By the way, the article in the OP post has less to do with Forum and it ads services. The above law will only be applicable to Australians and not the entire globe Grin

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Quote from: adzino on July 13, 2023, 12:17:35 AM

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

the main goal of signature displays is to promote projects and casinos, and this is a commercial advertisements. This is the same as you advertise the services of businesses around you and put banners in your house. Signature has the same function as banner ads that you see on websites such as Adsense. Because with this signature, forum users will see the casino or project and feel save to join. In the end, you get paid for using signature of the project/casino, that's the same as you promote it commercially. IMO/CMIIW

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Quote from: hyudien on July 13, 2023, 08:30:12 AM

Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Let's say if it is banned, will the institution that prohibits it dare to displace bigger finances like those issued by casinos to become promoters? of course not, they just bark without any solution. No wonder why the opposition always ends with criticism without a solution. They are not able to speak broadly and even move in an Australian country even though it doesn't make any impact. Then why did you link it to this forum?

That's part of solution maybe we can't see a huge effect on it since there are still people gambles but still its good initiative already since they can study how their regulation goes. If it happens the number of addiction has still rising up maybe another solution will be placed and maybe we. n see them issue a total ban if they see that their last regulation didn't seems effective and they need to level up their actions and put total end to each casino platform to lessen up the damage brought up by wrong perception about the casino.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Let's say if it is banned, will the institution that prohibits it dare to displace bigger finances like those issued by casinos to become promoters? of course not, they just bark without any solution. No wonder why the opposition always ends with criticism without a solution. They are not able to speak broadly and even move in an Australian country even though it doesn't make any impact. Then why did you link it to this forum?

This is not a matter of banned ads or not, because everyone has the right to make a choice. For example, when you see a legal advertisement on television regarding "if you buy a bottle of drink, you will get a raffle ticket to win a car raffle ticket". Are you interested?

A small example where promotion of any kind does in fact not force you to spend money if you are not interested. So what's the difference between gambling ads? the same as not forcing right?

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Quote from: South Park on July 11, 2023, 03:04:40 PM

Gambling regulations will surely depend heavily on how gambling is considered by politicians, if gambling is just seen as an adult hobby, then you may be right and gambling ads will simply disappear from events that children and young people are expected to watch, however if gambling is considered to be bad for people regardless of their age then we may see a complete ban on gambling advertising, a scenario similar to what happened to tobacco.

Gambling advertisements will continue to exist because of the interests of many parties, including politicians. Some politicians also own casinos so they want to see advertisements about their casino. So even though there is a ban on minors, gambling ads for adults can still run because the ads are specifically for adults only or people who don't apply filters.

Quote from: jostorres on July 12, 2023, 11:15:22 PM

Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

That is the impact of an advertisement that can attract more people to join. Gambling ads are also like that, so maybe if the government reduces the broadcast time of gambling ads, it won't stop people from quitting or reducing their gambling time because they already know much about gambling. So it is very difficult to ban gambling advertisements, especially if people very well know gambling because they will return to gambling again.

Quote from: Rabata on July 13, 2023, 01:51:46 AM

Yes bitcoin forum is completely independent. It does not operate any gambling sites so no government can file any complaint against it. However, where gambling is illegal, the government will impose various restrictions. Everything related to gambling in those places will be viewed seriously. I think the government cannot create any such obligation regarding gambling advertisements on social media. However, if governments want to, they can certainly regulate gambling at the national or local level.

Unless the government suppresses people on forums and bans gambling ads from appearing on these forums, but we know that the bitcoin forum is independent and not related or bound by anything, so many ads appear on this forum. The government can easily regulate gambling advertisements that appear locally or nationally because they are all under government regulations, so they have to obey the government's wishes.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on July 13, 2023, 05:22:24 AM

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

And because of that regulation by the government is needed to be able to regulate how advertisements from gambling are not excessive and affect minors. In my own country, here gambling platforms are not allowed to advertise in public spaces, but they are allowed to advertise in places such as clubs, private parties, etc., basically only places attended by adults with not too much intensity. With regulations like this, the government can prevent children from playing gambling, but at the same time still allow gambling platforms to advertise their games.

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Quote from: adzino on July 13, 2023, 12:17:35 AM

Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

exactly. this forum is an open place for discussion related to anything and is not bound by anything and is not established as a gambling place. so here there is freedom or anyone may carry out any activity that does not violate the forum rules even if using a signature or an ANN thread does not mean that this is a gambling place but a place that is provided for everyone who wants to discuss or seek information about anything that exists.
I think Australia will never care about this forum because it will not affect anything and this is just our place for discussion.

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Quote from: Blitzboy on July 13, 2023, 05:22:24 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 05, 2023, 09:56:31 AM

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Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

Not sure if we can compare it though to smoking ads, I mean there are huge cigarette companies that lobbied government officials and so it's hard to stop those ads from popping.

But as for gambling, there are a lot of government around the world is that totally against it. So maybe we can't see those ads anymore or anywhere. As compare to smoking and cigarette ads that are everywhere and even minors have access to it.

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Quote from: jostorres on July 12, 2023, 11:15:22 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 05, 2023, 09:56:31 AM

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Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

Smoking and gambling appear to defy legislation and advertising limits. When these behaviours continue despite their risks, cognitive dissonance occurs.

Pessimism suggests we'll lose this battle. Thats defeatist. Instead of censoring ads, we should promote education and prevention.

I hate gambling advertising. However, some people need a little gambling for fun. However, these adverts may sway addicts. They deserve contempt, but lets also find ways to educate people.

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Quote from: adzino on July 13, 2023, 12:17:35 AM

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

Wearing a casino signature means you're promoting the casino, if you're an Australian citizen, actually you're broke your country laws. But do you think Australian government will care and catch you? nope, the highest payrate of signature campaign in this forum is $150, such amount is just a peanut for them and not worth to take a serious action. Bitcointalk is also an underrated forum, not really high like reddit, so it make the government won't care about you.

What if they make all of the activities regarding gambling banned even on underrated forums like here? I don't know if there are really Aussies here that probably wearing signatures for the sake of $150/week, I think that's too low for them, just saying. I think signatures are part of an advertisement if you're being paid for that, yeah, you really represent them and I agree with you.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on June 30, 2023, 10:12:11 PM

It's already passed down to generation to generation, there's even new gambling games that are popular locally or internationally like casino. As the thread concerns about its advertisement of course it would be affected from the specific place only but for sure the bitcointalk forum wouldn't be affected from it. Gambling especially new sites would needed ads for them to be introduced to its new customer or player. Since in the social media it would be easier to use ads to spread the word about the new casinos.

The Bitcointalk forum is not related to anything and is independent so the ads still appear. But for other places, especially offline places, the government can prohibit or regulate it so that only adults can gamble. And what is difficult to regulate is the spread of gambling advertisements on social media because it is related to the social media service site. Hence, the government needs to take different approaches. But now there are a lot of gambling advertisements appearing on social media so people have to be more vigilant and maybe they can filter out the types of ads that will appear on their profile page.

Yes bitcoin forum is completely independent. It does not operate any gambling sites so no government can file any complaint against it. However, where gambling is illegal, the government will impose various restrictions. Everything related to gambling in those places will be viewed seriously. I think the government cannot create any such obligation regarding gambling advertisements on social media. However, if governments want to, they can certainly regulate gambling at the national or local level.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

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s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

Honestly people need to wake up to adblockers a bit more, but it's a bit of a catch 22 situation if too many people start using them it will break advertiser profitability entirely. I've barely seen any adverts after using one for many years, except for places like this which have custom tailored slots that are not detected. Unless the advert is particularly irritating or annoying, or targeted towards under 21's, then it should be considered the same as any other advert - just ignore it and move on with your day.

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Quote from: adzino on July 13, 2023, 12:17:35 AM

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

Wearing a casino signature means you're promoting the casino, if you're an Australian citizen, actually you're broke your country laws. But do you think Australian government will care and catch you? nope, the highest payrate of signature campaign in this forum is $150, such amount is just a peanut for them and not worth to take a serious action. Bitcointalk is also an underrated forum, not really high like reddit, so it make the government won't care about you.

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I don't understand idea of banning crypto gambling ads. I mean what is the point and purpose? Especially politician tagging them "annoying" doesn't make sense. I mean is it reason why? So should we ban anything we find annoying to see? Its so stupid that politicians can't understand how much money clubs make through sponsorships and ads coming from crypto casinos. They are actually making competition lot better. It seems to me that Australia is making a mistake.

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Quote from: Saheedu on June 28, 2023, 01:46:01 AM

Quote from: https://www.[Suspicious link removed

s/amp.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends]Ads for online gambling should be banned across all media and at all times within three years to combat the manipulation of an “impressionable and vulnerable audience”, a parliamentary inquiry has recommended.

After months of debate about betting ads, including the prime minister, Anthony Albanese, labelling them “annoying” and the opposition leader, Peter Dutton, calling for a ban on ads during sports matches, the inquiry has provided a blueprint to shut them down entirely.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jun/28/ads-for-online-gambling-should-be-banned-in-australia-within-three-years-inquiry-recommends

If this should be implemented will it affect bitcointalk casinos? As we all know most established and new casinos come to bitcointalk to launch their ANN thread and carry out signature promotion campaigns which can be regarded as ads in a sense. If ads should be banned will their promotion in Bitcointalk also end?

It's only in Australia that are willing to ban online casino advertisement. Not sure what you mean by bitcointalk casinos. Bitcointalk is a forum. Not a casino. The ANN thread you see is the announcement threads. It's not an advertisement thread. They announce their updated over there. The signatures are personal user space. I doubt it can be considered as a commercial advertisement. People can put what they want in their signature. They can put their referral links. And I doubt Australian government would care about this forum.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 05, 2023, 09:56:31 AM

Quote from: klidex on July 02, 2023, 01:23:40 PM

Bitcointalk is like a TV or other electronic device which is only a place to see whatever is in the show and if advertising or anything happens with the broadcast it is not the fault of the TV or we cannot sue the TV not to advertise gambling because this is an open place, anyone is free here .
Another problem with gambling advertising will remain because in certain parts of the country gambling can be an income that can help the country's economy at the cost of taxes.
It's pretty clear that gambling advertising can never be banned.

It is difficult to ban gambling advertising at this time because gambling advertising has become a big tax contributor everywhere. And the government also doesn't want to lose that gambling revenue so the government might just limit the schedule of gambling advertisements so that children don't see gambling advertisements. And actually, it's the responsibility of each because it's just an advertisement that is the same as other advertisements. Well, maybe if all parties want to work together, it seems that it can still reduce the number of people who gamble and gambling problems such as gambling addiction can be reduced.

Things that are meant to spread will spread no matter what someone does to prevent that from happening. Tobacco advertisements are banned all around the world, but does that reduce the number of smokers? It doesn't, in fact, they keep increasing over time because there is no need for any advertisement for cigarettes to get to people, everyone knows where they can get them and they do that regardless of the fact that they are harmful to them.

Similarly, no matter how much government works on banning gambling advertisements to reduce the number of gamblers and gambling addicts, it is a kind of a thing that will spread anyway, the only difference is that who knows which platform one would choose to start their gambling journey.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on July 05, 2023, 09:56:31 AM

Quote from: klidex on July 02, 2023, 01:23:40 PM

Bitcointalk is like a TV or other electronic device which is only a place to see whatever is in the show and if advertising or anything happens with the broadcast it is not the fault of the TV or we cannot sue the TV not to advertise gambling because this is an open place, anyone is free here .
Another problem with gambling advertising will remain because in certain parts of the country gambling can be an income that can help the country's economy at the cost of taxes.
It's pretty clear that gambling advertising can never be banned.

It is difficult to ban gambling advertising at this time because gambling advertising has become a big tax contributor everywhere. And the government also doesn't want to lose that gambling revenue so the government might just limit the schedule of gambling advertisements so that children don't see gambling advertisements. And actually, it's the responsibility of each because it's just an advertisement that is the same as other advertisements. Well, maybe if all parties want to work together, it seems that it can still reduce the number of people who gamble and gambling problems such as gambling addiction can be reduced.

Gambling regulations will surely depend heavily on how gambling is considered by politicians, if gambling is just seen as an adult hobby, then you may be right and gambling ads will simply disappear from events that children and young people are expected to watch, however if gambling is considered to be bad for people regardless of their age then we may see a complete ban on gambling advertising, a scenario similar to what happened to tobacco.

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Quote from: klidex on July 02, 2023, 01:23:40 PM

Bitcointalk is like a TV or other electronic device which is only a place to see whatever is in the show and if advertising or anything happens with the broadcast it is not the fault of the TV or we cannot sue the TV not to advertise gambling because this is an open place, anyone is free here .
Another problem with gambling advertising will remain because in certain parts of the country gambling can be an income that can help the country's economy at the cost of taxes.
It's pretty clear that gambling advertising can never be banned.

It is difficult to ban gambling advertising at this time because gambling advertising has become a big tax contributor everywhere. And the government also doesn't want to lose that gambling revenue so the government might just limit the schedule of gambling advertisements so that children don't see gambling advertisements. And actually, it's the responsibility of each because it's just an advertisement that is the same as other advertisements. Well, maybe if all parties want to work together, it seems that it can still reduce the number of people who gamble and gambling problems such as gambling addiction can be reduced.

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Quote from: noorman0 on July 02, 2023, 09:05:38 PM

Quote from: qwertyup23 on July 02, 2023, 06:21:18 PM

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At the end of the day, it is all about balancing- balancing the interests of the government to generate revenue for the betterment of society; and balancing the interests of the citizens to live a life free from all social norms, pressure, and addiction.

That's the point, sometimes the gambling industry creates dilemma considerations while the government wants to keep state revenue. I don't know if online gambling also contributes a lot to that.

However, when it comes to advertising methods, I think they are unlimited. While lately there have been a lot of hidden advertisements in various places (review and rating sites, livestreaming, short videos, etc) so that internet users will not be able to completely avoid the visibility of online casinos.

Casinos that are licensed and operate in certain jurisdictions after getting approval from the authorities generally pay their taxes, so I don't think that governments don't generate any revenue out of gambling platforms unless they are operating without their consent and aren't licensed which is why they get banned or sealed when they are caught operating without a license and not paying their taxes properly because no business can do that.

About advertisements, this is the first time I'm hearing about a country willing to completely ban and disallow gambling ads all around the country and on the internet as well, if they ban online gambling platforms as well then it can be understandable that maybe they are doing this because they don't want them to operate within the country at all.

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