Topic: Advice when you are going a bit far in gaming and betting - page 4. (Read 7873 times)

Your statement is very good and I am one of those people who share your point of view about gambling, to be honest I don't care what kind of gambling you are involved in whether it's pure luck or some sports betting which does require some skill and knowledge to be able to increase the percentage of winning chances to be closer, but that's not the point. One thing and as you said that self-control along with some other limitations are very important in gambling and I think all gamblers should not ignore this point.

I understand all of them want a winning situation to increase the amount of wealth possible, but doesn't everything have to be balanced? What I mean is that you are not advised to only focus on one side in gambling such as the chances of winning because the possibility of losing is also something that should not be ignored, you must have a formula to minimize the risk of losing in addition to the goal of getting a win because the risk of addiction cannot be completely avoided. Yes, it is true that it is not easy to do so but I think that if they have a proper understanding of gambling, it should not be difficult for them to implement many precautions because all of this is also for their own safety, of course, responsible gamblers are healthy gamblers who can keep themselves away from potential addiction.

A common problem that often occurs when winning is greed which arises as well as curiosity which encourages them to go further, even though they return to gambling with small bet amounts which can make the duration or gambling session longer. In my opinion this can also trigger them to become more daring. taking action that carries a big risk, such as placing a bigger bet, because they are thirsty for winning so they don't hesitate to place a bigger bet because it is clear that a big bet will result in a big win,  but that is also if they are lucky, because if they are not lucky then the same Of course, it will only waste the winnings they have earned.

That's how it should be, when you lose then just end it, don't force or insist on getting another win, or depositing money back with the aim of recovering the loss is not recommended. This often happens even in the long term,  and it is true what you said that they should be able to correct the mistakes that occur, by not making the same mistakes maybe it can make them safe for a moment.

No doubt, this should be the ideal but then how do we stick to our budget when it appears that every time we gamble is an opportunity to recover our losses? I have heard people say that they cannot stop gambling because it pays heavily and can make someone rich. This set of people can give you a list of people who made it out of gambling and so that has become the reason they gamble. Others have always said that they have lost so much and so they will not quit until they recover all their losses.

All gamblers especially those in sports betting have always approached the game with a positive mindset and so they always re-stake after a loss hoping to win. How do you control budget, when you feel placing a bet on a particular game can give you winning? If you stand firm on your decision and the game plays there is this ill feeling of regret and next time it becomes hard to stick to a budget. People always say the times I don't bet are the times I would have won and so they always give it a try.

Gamblers who stick to budget are gamblers who are always busy with other things. The secret is to get busy because that can cause distraction and take our mind away from it. In my opinion, any gambler who is always focused on gambling cannot manage his budget even if he sets one.

making your own rules about all the best limits and managing your budget best as possible is very necessary in gambling because only in this way can gambler avoid addiction or the bad effects of greed.
Indeed, it will not be easy as we imagine to manage finances and obey our own rules regarding the limits that have been set, but as long as you are willing to try it, you will definitely get used to it and will easily understand the right time to stop gambling and will easily save your budget.

I really support the advice you give because this is one of the best ways to be a healthy gambler and stay safe.

It is very valid, a way of seeing that one goes in Another direction when one goes too far, that is, if when we are winning in a game we Should see how far we can go, and how far we can generate money, that is, if we are winning a lot , as far as we are able to win, in this order of things , I can give as an example my chaos when I was learning and playing craps on freebitco.in, I was always going to do another strategy to see how I Hated more and if one You see I tripled the way to win, but it was with a very risky strategy, betting 5x but with 5 times betting very little , 1 satoshi , After this when I went to the 5th bet I raised my bet to 200sats because if I won it was 1000sats, and then I Increased it to 400, that is, a complementary martingale, but with a 5x and so on with 3x and 7x it was crazy, that's how I won a lot , but at the same time learning about this strategy because I lost everything, it was something very sad but basically I did it, and if the balance increases , but once you get used to seeing those balances you want to continue doing it and no, you have to have too much balance to endure those losses, because it is strong.

This in dice, I don't Know , but in the other games I applied other strategies, each of the games has its own strategies and they can be analyzed from different Perspectives, but basically things when it comes to how to do generating more money is there , the Strategies do work for me , but it does not mean that there is 1 strategy that always makes me Win and that is Infallible , no, there are Always many things to do, I think that the more strategies one knows, the greater There is a chance to win , but if I apply only 2 or 3 strategies, we would be playing in a very flat way and we will not win anything, this too or I say from my own Experience , it is Better to do it as I say, although of course it is my personal experience.

the only advice I can give to anyone in such situations is to make sure you have a set amount and limits to how much you gamble or spend on sport bets and the numbers of bets you select each time you doing so, this is very important and at some point very crucial for the overall well being of the gambler who thinks that he cant handle his gambling time, because alot of gamblers can't handle themselves without have a guidelines that guide their actions at some point in time.

So for a safe time while gambling or betting, you need to have a set rules and limited timing on how much you spend on those bets this is the only to stay ahead of every possible possibilities of resulting into an addict in the long run.

This is the main reason on why i dont really like on giving out some advises not only into those people who are addicted to gambling but also into those people who are really that facing up some life challenges or problems that they do have or whatever the things that they are dealing off with. I dont like that those kind of piece of advises would really be turning out to be a complete
arguments or conflicts on which its true that there are people who are really that short tempered or something that really having that high reactions on which it would be causing up some trouble.
Just let them be on the things that they are doing, they are already old enough to know on whats wrong and whats bad on which it would really be that impossible that you wont
really be able those kind of realizations.

Yes, it is because having a fixed amount to win we can afford to play as we want, that is, we still want to play little by little so that the bets last longer and the time in the game lasts longer, well, well, otherwise no, It is not the same as us doing things like this. because basically when we are generating many ways of seeing things we can Intuit that always in each of the parts of the games, we can play to win, in fact we always play to win more, because in the casino what matters is that we let's maintain it with money, without money there is no juice, there is no party, there is nothing, so since money is the most important thing in a casino, we have to find our best strategy to make it perform, there are some who say that they do not believe in strategy of the game, there are others who say yes, I personally do believe that strategy can be Applied to win and in fact when I play I know many according to the type of game, for example in the games , except that in this day and age it is very difficult to go for the martingale, which I try to avoid at all costs.

In this order of ideas, every time we are doing something to innovate our way of playing, many aspects can emerge, among them money, and the best play of all, the one I always use, is to put my money on lose, only with the exception that when you lose, you don't have to insist anymore, you have to accept the loss and keep going, maybe in another game session if it's possible that you have better luck, but it all depends on the things you can do, However, when we are generating ways to have better behavior and performance in the game, we have to learn quickly from the losses, so as not to make the same mistakes that made us lose in a moment, that is what I always say, learn and correct, to then earn or have the possibility of earning money.

Advice is one of the main thing why some other people get mad in each other because of that advice cause when you give some friendly advice to your friend who are addicted in gambling then there's a chance that it will become a trouble cause if those addict are too high then the man who gives some advice to him started angry and miss understand will become trouble.
So it's hard to give some advice in a hot tempered person or gambling .

Yes, of course, and this is also one of the reasons why it is very difficult to cure gamblers from addiction. If people say that they have difficulty curing someone who is addicted, whether it is someone else or one of their friends, then that means it is a gambling addict who wants to they cure are people  who absolutely do not want to stop their gambling activities, as I said before that basically this is a good action and leads to much better changes but in terms of achieving success it will not be as easy as turning the palm of your hand.

And also yes, I think it is a logical idea that if we push too hard on advice or assistance like this, even though it leads to good things, it is possible that in the end the gambling addict will feel uncomfortable and they will say that we are interfering too much with their freedom. they are choices, and this means that sometimes even though we care too much about other people there are still some people who don't want to accept help from other people because as I said, gambling addicts are those who have the wrong mindset in gambling but they think that what they doing it is not wrong, all this happens because they  have not been able to reach the level of awareness in their common sense. Maybe we  can only wait for their awareness to emerge, usually it will appear if they have experienced adversity that really makes them feel traumatized.

Someone who cares about them will try to give advice to the gambling addict and make him realize that what he is doing is wrong. Whatever the method, someone will try their best to make the addict realize that he is addicted to gambling and needs help immediately. If not, the gambling addict will get deeper into gambling and his gambling addiction will also get deeper. This will be more difficult to cure because the gambling addict will not want to get help from other people. Therefore, before it is too late, there must be someone who wants to help the gambling addict.

So having awareness while gambling is necessary to keep us from gambling excessively and we also won't experience serious problems. And don't get too deep into gambling if you don't want to experience gambling addiction problems because gambling too often can cause you to experience gambling addiction. This is what every gambler must avoid so that they can realize that they really have to limit their gambling.

There's nothing wrong with continuing to give suggestions to make him aware because, after all, if we care about him, we have to use various methods that might make him aware. We don't know which method will bring him to his senses. That's why we can use many methods, and later, there will be a time when the addict or gambler will think about what has happened to him. Yes, this is indeed a common disease faced by gamblers, and the people around them can also start to see and pay attention and advise them to reduce their gambling activities.

The gamble we play is pure risk, and that feeling of playing continuously when you are on a winning strike is common among gamblers. But I believe those who aren't addicted gamblers, learnt how to say no to that thought after a while. When you are a newbie to gambling, there is a high tendency that you will fall for this trick after after a while you know when to quit. Discipline is what makes us different from addicted gamblers, even in other life situations.

No doubt, as everything should begin with the gambler itself, even how hard you try to help the person without his will to change his direction, nothing will happen about it. I agree with what you mentioned that if you push hard in providing your guidance and concern, you might be called out as interfering with their freedom to do whatever they want and think that they are doing better, a kind of mindset where a gambler thinks that he's good and there's nothing wrong with whatever he's doing and handling his gambling activities.

It's hard and also a complicated situation indeed, as even how concerned you are, there's always a negative impression that may take in the side of that person that you are trying to help.

advice you say? Well sorry to tell you this, but I think advice really doesn't work for gamblers that can't really control their gambling habits, but although this particular feeling of the gambler wanting to continue his playing after hitting a figure that isn't satisfactory is like a common disease among other gamblers and it the person himself that can discipline himself to actually stop this act.

Starting from a wrong understanding that ultimately makes them unable to accept the fact that the final result really loses, and this is the starting point for gamblers to fall into an uncontrollable situation until finally they will usually chase victory with the aim of getting what they have lost and if gamblers have entered a situation like this then obviously gambling is no longer a fun activity but tends to lead to situations that  always make them feel depressed. There is no other way that a gambler can understand his own situation other than awareness and the problem is that it is not easy to achieve awareness if they basically have the wrong understanding  from the start so they are unable to accept the risks that occur.

Maybe they will be able  to understand the mood when the game is just about to start where everything must be fine - fine but when it's halfway through there starts to be a lot of reactions that come out of him whether it's fun or stressful. Gambling with the intention of filling time and getting entertainment is indeed more advisable but not a few gamblers who experience a change in mindset over time  because they see the many things that seem tempting that are there and do not rule out the possibility that gamblers who come for  entertainment alone can end up with addiction when they cannot maintain their level of awareness. I think having and maintaining the right understanding to always be in a state of awareness is key.

It's fine to take risk again after your withdrawal. But to enjoy that gambling experience for the second time around is to make sure that money is already out of your capital and is a part of your profit.

So, whatever happens to that remaining money that you've left as you gamble again isn't going to take serious hit on your bankroll and also with your profit.

But what matters if you take a risk, make sure that you can bring yourself with that and you're not going to regret actions and decisions you've concluded.

Yes, that's right, if we can determine the amount of money we set, we can gamble however we like, play crazy or play well, it depends on each person's perception, because everyone's thinking is different, so there are two possibilities, with 100 USD. That is, they can think of playing crazy with big bets in order to win quickly and the amount is also large, on the other hand they bet with small amounts but they play neatly and gradually because they don't want the 100 USD to disappear in a short time. but what often happens is that if they play well, they might go crazy, because of course they won't last long with their good game because maybe it will be boring, so it's possible that they can also increase the amount of their bet.

I agree with you, we don't have to spend extra money, because the chances are still the same, with the predictable ending being defeat, and there are also people who don't withdraw their winnings because they still want to get a big win, so they don't stop even though you have already won. and that way they dare to take risks but don't consider it well, so that when it's all finished they make another deposit, this is what must be avoided, don't let us make another deposit when the winnings we have obtained are lost again, because the truth is stop.

Talking about planning for the future, when we gamble we should also think about our future so that we don't get too caught up in the world of gambling and don't pursue too much ambition to get big profits. If you have difficulty controlling your thoughts then you will fall into the world of gambling and make you become addiction and it will destroy your future slowly little by little you chase the losses you have experienced so you can't think intelligently.

Yes, if they gamble too much, they will go astray and they will experience destruction. When someone can think realistically, they can definitely plan their future and have boundaries so that they don't become addicted to gambling. They can be responsible and disciplined in obeying the rules they have planned for a long time and most importantly they can control their thoughts so that detrimental things do not affect their planning.

When we are in the casino we have to have the following as a basis, have control before entering, but how? As I said before, if we have money to bet in the casino it is only safer, therefore when we are assuming that things can go good or bad then we have to do that, then if we are willing to spend for example about 100usd Well, we can go crazy and lose control if we want but only with those 100usd, no more than that, because that's when the problems start, of course this is my perception of things, maybe I'm wrong, but what kind of things are like that? We must do anything to be able to execute the best way to play, so when we play with the money we are willing to lose, we can not control our emotions or anything, always and when as I said before, we should not spend extra money, If you lose it doesn't matter, we have enjoyed it, if you win it's perfect that's the idea, we should see things for what they are.

What we must always see is that every time we are executing a good play, or a good streak, we must be careful, never leave with all the money we have earned, because it is the worst, at the time when many people risk it. -In many times they lose, but the important thing for this is knowing how to retire, when we retire things can be difficult, sometimes we can be left with the feeling that we would have won more, but it is better to stay with that feeling than to be left without money and let's say later that we had retired on time when we had those profits.

What we must Aways consider is that every time we make a Withdrawal we have to do everything so that we can have the best experience, not risk anything After we win, because if we risk it we have to assume that we can lose everything and more, and that It is what should always be avoided.

But overall I honestly can't say that helping a gambler to change his approach to his gambling activities is an easy thing, this is very difficult to do because an addicted gambler already has a belief that they think is right, I understand that this is a good action to help an addict to get out of his wrong mindset in dealing with gambling, if you advise them too much to change their habits and beliefs in a better and logical direction then I think this will only make everything end in a fight, you will be considered as a person who is too interfering with other people's affairs.

On the other hand, of course I agree with your idea that getting too deep into gambling will only make us suffer more and get stuck in a cycle of downturn that will never end, but on the other hand I can't be sure that suggestions or some actions suggested by others can fully help a gambler to make changes and for this problem I believe that change or recovery will succeed if it is accompanied by a desire based on the gambler's own awareness.