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Topic: [AEON] Aeon Speculation - page 42. (Read 190166 times)

legendary
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June 10, 2017, 02:16:18 PM
$0.635875 (8.71%) - price is holding steady

Bullshit is holding steady. Aeon price target is $5.0
legendary
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June 10, 2017, 07:42:50 AM

Ok. There is a chance that the cryptonote algorithm is still breakable I assume? Has it been tested and audited?


I hope this was not question for me. Since I am not a cryptographer. So far many algorithms were broken you can find that data on wiki. Bitcoin algorithm SHA256 should get broken way faster then Moneros CryptoNight .

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_cryptographic_hash_functions

Here you have some algorithms listed. Click on older ones like MD2 or SHA0 and see when they were invented and when broken in theory and when broken in practice. Eventually all will get broke but much faster in theory then in practice.   And you see MD2 and SHA0 are actually still used altho are not secure anymore.
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June 09, 2017, 09:16:34 PM
Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.

Also, what are the updates on Surae's concerns?

Would be very interested to hear cAPSLOCK & phishead's thoughts on this.

To be honest I don't know much in terms of cryptonote history/bytecoin history. I'm assuming the links provided above is all there really is to know about the topic. As for Surae, I'm sure he's still reachable on #monero or #monero-dev on freenode.
legendary
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June 09, 2017, 07:42:25 PM

Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.

Also, what are the updates on Surae's concerns?

As I know and what i know i got from Cyptonote forum.  There was a group that worked on cryptonote test coins. They worked some time. They did it for a research and did not wanted to make a real use coin and have financial gain.  Part of them did not agree with them and latter split and started Bytecoin. The other part stayed on cryptonote and researched it further. They also replied in 2014 on cryptonote forum to all that come there for help when starting their cryptonote coins.   So yes bytecoin developers are the one that was part of cryptonote inventors, but not solely. How big was their influence i have no slight idea. maybe 50% maybe 1%.


Who are the developers of BCN now?

Is it still developed? When i last check their forum was no news for like a 2 years.

Ok. There is a chance that the cryptonote algorithm is still breakable I assume? Has it been tested and audited?

@stoffu. Thank you.
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June 09, 2017, 02:23:26 PM
As I know and what i know i got from Cyptonote forum.  There was a group that worked on cryptonote test coins. They worked some time. They did it for a research and did not wanted to make a real use coin and have financial gain.  Part of them did not agree with them and latter split and started Bytecoin. The other part stayed on cryptonote and researched it further. They also replied in 2014 on cryptonote forum to all that come there for help when starting their cryptonote coins.   So yes bytecoin developers are the one that was part of cryptonote inventors, but not solely. How big was their influence i have no slight idea. maybe 50% maybe 1%.
Who are the developers of BCN now?

Is it still developed? When i last check their forum was no news for like a 2 years.

Thanks for the info.  God damn, it keeps steadily rising..  almost doubled from when I bought mine last week.  After investigating all the alternative cryptos to make a quick buck on, I picked that which has the most reliable developer and concept.  It might not have all these silly percentage rises, but slow and steady wins the race.
legendary
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June 09, 2017, 07:50:31 AM

Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.

Also, what are the updates on Surae's concerns?

As I know and what i know i got from Cyptonote forum.  There was a group that worked on cryptonote test coins. They worked some time. They did it for a research and did not wanted to make a real use coin and have financial gain.  Part of them did not agree with them and latter split and started Bytecoin. The other part stayed on cryptonote and researched it further. They also replied in 2014 on cryptonote forum to all that come there for help when starting their cryptonote coins.   So yes bytecoin developers are the one that was part of cryptonote inventors, but not solely. How big was their influence i have no slight idea. maybe 50% maybe 1%.


Who are the developers of BCN now?

Is it still developed? When i last check their forum was no news for like a 2 years.
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June 09, 2017, 06:38:21 AM
Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.

Also, what are the updates on Surae's concerns?

Would be very interested to hear cAPSLOCK & phishead's thoughts on this.
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June 08, 2017, 10:04:48 PM

Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.


It seems otherwise; the original creator of CryptoNote actively encouraged forking, so probably people behind CryptoNote and Bytecoin are different.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.6135077

There's a series of posts on Reddit summarizing the history of Bytecoin and Monero (the above post was cited in Part I):
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 08:23:22 PM
That is true. But why did Poloniex decide to list BCN and have not taken a look at Aeon? BCN was known for cheating the community for its mine and they have faked their timestamps by making it appear that it started mining on 2012. There was also a fake story about it being a secret currency used in the darknet.

Who are the developers of BCN now?

You know, this has always been a concern of mine... at the Monero NYC Meetup not too long ago, Surae brought up something that I have been wondering about now since then; and that is, if we got this new awesome crypto algorithm from Bytecoin that we are basing everything on and not Bitcoin's... then how much can we trust it?

That is a very rough paraphrase there, but that's what he was basically saying and he said he was going to look into it in his research at the Monero Research Lab.

I know this doesn't answer your question, lol... sorry. Just was curious if anyone knew any more about that?

Is cryptonote invented by the same developers who created Bytecoin? I do not know the full history of cryptonote and it would be nice to be given some URLs of articles about its story and how it came to be. Thank you.

Also, what are the updates on Surae's concerns?
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June 08, 2017, 05:02:38 PM
$0.635875 (8.71%) - price is holding steady
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June 08, 2017, 10:12:48 AM
AEON Fish species:

0.)  Leviathan                      (100 000+ XMR)
1.)  Whale                             (40 000+ XMR)
2.)  Pocketwhale                    (20 000+ XMR)
3.)  Dolphin                           (10 000+ XMR)
4.)  Shark                               (5 000+ XMR)
5.)  Black Marlin                      (2 000+ XMR)
6.)  Tuna                                 (1000+ XMR)
7.)  Norwegian Delicious Salmon (300+ XMR)
8.)  Gadidae                              (100+ XMR)
9.)  Atlantic mackerel                   (30+ XMR)
10.) Herring                                (10+ XMR)
11.) Goldfish                                 (1+ XMR)


Become a Tuna in Monero is quite costly nowadays, but to be an AEON Tuna is still quite affordable.  Levithans needs to sell their coins so everyone can afford them.

Tunahead doesn't really quite roll of the tongue as nicely... and Goldphish is at a lame 1-9.99 Aeon net worth... hmmmm..  Undecided
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 10:02:16 AM
AEON Fish species:

0.) Cthulhu                          (200 000+ AEON)
1.) Leviathan                       (100 000+ AEON)
2.) Blue whale                       (60 000+ AEON)
3.) Orca                                (40 000+ AEON)
4.) Narwhal                           (20 000+ AEON)
5.) Dolphin                            (10 000+ AEON)
6.) Shark                                (5 000+ AEON)
7.) Black Marlin                       (2 000+ AEON)
8.) Wels catfish                       (1 000+ AEON)
9.) Tuna                                   ( 500+ AEON)
10.) Electric eel                          (200+ AEON)
11.) Norwegian Delicious Salmon (100+ AEON)
12.) Gadidae                                (50+ AEON)
13.) Salmonidae                           (20+ AEON)
14.) Gilt-head bream                    (10+ AEON)
15.) Atlantic mackerel                    (5+ AEON)
16.) Herring                                  (2+ AEON)
17.) Goldfish                                 (1+ AEON)


Become a Tuna in Monero is quite costly nowadays, but to be an AEON Tuna is still quite affordable.  Levithans needs to sell their coins so everyone can afford them.
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June 08, 2017, 08:08:53 AM

Hello. Not $5 per AEON yet? Okay, going back to bed.


LOL
I am surprised with AEON surge,... the slop looks promising.
It seems it will have surprise.
At the end of the year the AEON will be different
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June 08, 2017, 05:52:43 AM
Bytecoin has been on Poloniex since '14.  Anyone could buy all they wanted for 1-9 satoshis for months at a time.

Apologies!  Wasn't aware of that fact, cheers for the info.

You know, this has always been a concern of mine... at the Monero NYC Meetup not too long ago, Surae brought up something that I have been wondering about now since then; and that is, if we got this new awesome crypto algorithm from Bytecoin that we are basing everything on and not Bitcoin's... then how much can we trust it?

That is a very rough paraphrase there, but that's what he was basically saying and he said he was going to look into it in his research at the Monero Research Lab.

I know this doesn't answer your question, lol... sorry. Just was curious if anyone knew any more about that?

This is a legitimate concern, never even thought about that.  The Monero developers are a very smart team it seems, let's hope they will quickly spot any security threats.
legendary
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June 08, 2017, 02:25:26 AM

Hello. Not $5 per AEON yet? Okay, going back to bed.
legendary
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June 07, 2017, 11:41:09 PM
That is true. But why did Poloniex decide to list BCN and have not taken a look at Aeon? BCN was known for cheating the community for its mine and they have faked their timestamps by making it appear that it started mining on 2012. There was also a fake story about it being a secret currency used in the darknet.

Who are the developers of BCN now?

You know, this has always been a concern of mine... at the Monero NYC Meetup not too long ago, Surae brought up something that I have been wondering about now since then; and that is, if we got this new awesome crypto algorithm from Bytecoin that we are basing everything on and not Bitcoin's... then how much can we trust it?

That is a very rough paraphrase there, but that's what he was basically saying and he said he was going to look into it in his research at the Monero Research Lab.

I know this doesn't answer your question, lol... sorry. Just was curious if anyone knew any more about that?

This has been a persistent concern of mine since the very beginning of my relationship with Monero.

I am very glad Surae is chasing this...
legendary
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June 07, 2017, 11:34:08 PM
That is true. But why did Poloniex decide to list BCN and have not taken a look at Aeon? BCN was known for cheating the community for its mine and they have faked their timestamps by making it appear that it started mining on 2012. There was also a fake story about it being a secret currency used in the darknet.

Who are the developers of BCN now?

AEON was listed on Poloniex for a year or more. BCN and Monero were listed at the same time I believe, or very closely in late spring of 2014. Aeon was listed not long after with many other cryptonotes such as BBR, XDN, FCN, QZC, Moneta Verde (I think), Pebblecoin, and probably others I'm forgetting. After a while most were delisted for lack of volume or other issues and only BCN and XMR remain.
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June 07, 2017, 10:41:01 PM
That is true. But why did Poloniex decide to list BCN and have not taken a look at Aeon? BCN was known for cheating the community for its mine and they have faked their timestamps by making it appear that it started mining on 2012. There was also a fake story about it being a secret currency used in the darknet.

Who are the developers of BCN now?

You know, this has always been a concern of mine... at the Monero NYC Meetup not too long ago, Surae brought up something that I have been wondering about now since then; and that is, if we got this new awesome crypto algorithm from Bytecoin that we are basing everything on and not Bitcoin's... then how much can we trust it?

That is a very rough paraphrase there, but that's what he was basically saying and he said he was going to look into it in his research at the Monero Research Lab.

I know this doesn't answer your question, lol... sorry. Just was curious if anyone knew any more about that?
legendary
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June 07, 2017, 09:07:32 PM
That is true. But why did Poloniex decide to list BCN and have not taken a look at Aeon? BCN was known for cheating the community for its quickmine and they have faked their timestamps by making it appear that it started mining on 2012. There was also a fake story about it being a secret currency used in the darknet.

Who are the developers of BCN now?
legendary
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June 07, 2017, 12:20:54 PM
It's also funny seeing Aeon barely having any volume on Bittrex while the scam Bytecoin is enjoying the life in the top 10 at coinmarketcap and having good liquidity in Poloniex.

Completely agree.  Purely speculation but I believe the Poloniex team just bought up as much Bytecoin as they possibly could then introduced it to their marketplace.  Why not?  I would, lol

Bytecoin has been on Poloniex since '14.  Anyone could buy all they wanted for 1-9 satoshis for months at a time.
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