After 1 year of Covid 19 Virus - page 10.

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For example, a recent study found that the Pfizer vaccine is only 42% effective against the delta variant. But the same study found that those who got two doses of the Pfizer vaccine are 200 times less likely to die from the infection. So these two needs to be distinguished. On the other hand we have the Chinese vaccines (Sinopharm and Sinovac), which are neither effective, nor offers any protection from hospitalization.

Where can I read about effectiveness of vaccines? I've got two Pfizer vaccine shots. Your post made me disappointed. All the time I thought that I'm more protected than others, but now it turns that my chances to die are simply much lower. I still can catch something and it might damage my organs...

I'm about to have my first abroad vacation during pandemic period. The vacation is already half spoiled, because most of places I can not simply visit even with vaccine certificate. In addition, I can be reverted back home after landing, because of silly rule "your kid got covid confirmed", while he is much younger than 12 years (in our country only people who are older than 12 years old can be vaccinated).

Check this:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/moderna-may-be-superior-pfizer-against-delta-breakthrough-odds-rise-with-time-2021-08-09/

The article was published two weeks ago, based on a study done by Mayo Clinic Health System. The sample size was huge (>50,000) so I am sure that the numbers they are providing are closer to the truth. And the worst part is that Moderna is proving to be much more effective when compared to Pfizer. The former is 76% effective against the delta strain, while the latter has only 42% efficacy. Also, a study in Israel claims that the efficacy of mRNA vaccines get reduced after 6-7 months of the second dose.

This is interesting especially since Pfizer just got full FDA approval in the United States, which means that it is likely to increase market share as Moderna has not been fully approved and continues just to be approved on an emergency basis. If there really is such a large disparity it outcomes over time, hopefully Moderna will be approved and gain marketshare.

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After one year of covid-19 period, many things have changed. People lost their jobs and some of them were in search of new adventures while being unemployed. Cryptocurrency market has been in really high demand since this period started. Especially, the number of Bitcoin investors has increased a lot. Some people turned this into a job and they started to be professional investors.

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I just got my first jab a couple of days ago with Moderna with my sister. I rested for 1 1/2 days because I felt so weak, having a bit of fever and body pain, and soreness in the injected part. But the positive side is that once I have felt these side effects, it’s a good sign that my body is creating an immune response.

Now I am almost at 100% recovery (still feeling slight pain in the injected part), but that’s no big deal for me. It’s just that I am very concerned with the Delta variant which it’s already in my hometown. No matter if I’m healthy or on the younger side, I could experience severe condition once infected with the Delta variant.

Even if I do so right now because of getting fully vaccinated (which will be 1 month later), I could only experience mild symptoms and not ended up getting hospitalized. The purpose of these vaccines is to decongest hospitals and prevent us from dying despite we’re contagious.

Once I’m fully vaccinated, I am eligible to travel (following the minimum health standards and cooperation with the government) as long I have the proof of vaccination card. Herd immunity is still a long way to go. Maybe late next year or 2023 perhaps in my opinion.

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The COVID-19 pandemic has had a broad impact on the global health and economic crisis throughout 2020 and this year. Governments of countries around the world are taking various mitigation and cooperation measures to suppress the spread of COVID-19 while accelerating economic recovery. This year, global economic performance is expected to grow positively in line with the economic stimulus program and accelerated vaccination. I'm sure, if everyone obeys the government's recommendations, this pandemic will end quickly, that good hope will be real in front of us.

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Quote from: DrBeer on August 27, 2021, 04:12:50 PM

The vaccine is not a panacea, it does not cure a disease! Its purpose:
- in the best case - "isolate" the spread of the virus by a strong immune response from the body, preventing the virus from infecting the body and making it a carrier
- in the "worst" - significantly reduce the load on the body in case of illness. Reduce the risks of severe or fatal consequences.

So even basic vaccination, even in the presence of new strains, lowers the mortality curve compared to the unvaccinated community.

I am very glad that in Ukraine, at the moment, a total vaccination has been organized, with all vaccines certified by WHO (Koronovac, Modern, Pfizer, Astrazeneca). And now the figure has already been reached, of the total number of residents of the country, 8% and 12% fully vaccinated and with the first dose.

PS I received the second dose of Moderna the week before last

Agreed with the points, and I also believe that being fully vaccinated reduces your chance of dying from COVID by a factor of 100 times or more. But I am having doubts with every passing day. Countries that had achieved more than 50% vaccination coverage (such as the United States and the United Kingdom) are witnessing a huge spike in infections and new deaths. Also, a few of the studies now claim that the antibodies provided by the mRNA vaccines such as Moderna and Pfizer last only for 6 to 12 months.

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Quote from: Qikiye on August 23, 2021, 07:31:26 PM

The changes that have taken place in the cryptocurrency market after more than a year of the corona virus have borne fairly good results for the cryptocurrency.The people who lost their seasonal jobs in Corona and got in the way are all involved in the cryptocurrency market. As a result, cryptocurrency populations have grown and prices have risen sharply.

When many companies and investments lose money it makes people look for better investments, of course they hear a lot of things about investing and after they hear about crypto this makes them interested, when they try to invest and profit they will increase investment so this has a big impact on the skyrocketing growth of crypto during the pandemic.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 23, 2021, 03:03:51 PM

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In my opinion the discovery of a vaccine is not the end of covid-19, because some of the cases that I found in my place were when someone who had been vaccinated that person could still get covid-19, therefore we still have to comply with health protocols even though we have been vaccinated, I hope Covid-19 ends this year

As mentioned in many of the previous posts, this is one of the issues with vaccination. And we are already into the third quarter of this year. Do you really think that 2022 will be free from COVID? I don't think so. Countries such as Portugal and Israel have achieved greater than 80% vaccination rate. But even these countries are witnessing a sharp spike in new infections, especially those caused by the delta variant. With each passing day, I am getting more and more skeptical about 2022. I have a feeling that it is going to be as bad as 2021.

The vaccine is not a panacea, it does not cure a disease! Its purpose:
- in the best case - "isolate" the spread of the virus by a strong immune response from the body, preventing the virus from infecting the body and making it a carrier
- in the "worst" - significantly reduce the load on the body in case of illness. Reduce the risks of severe or fatal consequences.

So even basic vaccination, even in the presence of new strains, lowers the mortality curve compared to the unvaccinated community.

I am very glad that in Ukraine, at the moment, a total vaccination has been organized, with all vaccines certified by WHO (Koronovac, Modern, Pfizer, Astrazeneca). And now the figure has already been reached, of the total number of residents of the country, 8% and 12% fully vaccinated and with the first dose.

PS I received the second dose of Moderna the week before last

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 23, 2021, 03:12:05 PM

No, we will not. This virus will become endemic in nature, we will just live with it. We may contain this virus via the continuous vaccination program, but it will not go away anytime soon. Will be years before we can see a relatively normal life again. As it has been seen, even people with complete inoculation can still get infected. So using face mask, social distancing and other health protocols will be observed for years. There are other variants rising so scientists are again in the race to really find the most effective vaccine to counter these variants.

it seems that living side by side with this virus is not one of the best options because basically we live by maintaining a healthy lifestyle and maintaining protocols in accordance with health directives from the government, still experiencing an increase in the number of people affected by this virus in the sense that when someone keeps the protocol their health is still infected with the virus, especially if we live side by side with the virus, of course this will be a new problem and become a new cluster in the spread of the virus.
but if you look now it seems that people are getting bored because if I remember now it has been almost 2 years and for the sake of attacking the whole world and must have been bored and I also feel the same thing, namely boredom with a pandemic like this.
this could be an option that can be used at this time but by complying with existing health protocols such as maintaining a distance, always maintaining a healthy lifestyle and using masks outdoors, while still maximizing vaccinations from the government. this might happen and we can live side by side with a virus that doesn't know when it will end.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on August 24, 2021, 06:40:23 PM

Have any of you heard the recent fuss about Pfizer vaccines, An insider whistleblower doctor said there's a good chance patients might in 2-3 years due to blood clotting if they've taken 2 dosages of it.

I'm not sure what to say about it but I was against the Vaccines the very start and didn't believe in it.
I don't go out that often and haven't faced any symptoms of Covid since its rise are there any other like this?

The allegation was not made by any insider but by a mentally deranged activist called Luc Montagnier. And he didn't explicitly stated that everyone who take vaccines will die within 2-3 years. His statements were distorted by the anti-vaxxer groups.

https://www.indiatoday.in/fact-check/story/fact-check-nobel-laureate-luc-montagnier-didn-t-say-covid-vaccine-recipients-will-die-in-two-years-1807023-2021-05-26

Montagnier has campaigned against vaccination (for all diseases) for many years and that is the reason why he is opposing the latest vaccination campaign. As such he hasn't said anything peculiar to the COVID vaccine. So if you are supporting him, then you are against all the existing vaccines, such as those against Measles and Diphtheria.

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Quote from: worldofcoins on August 24, 2021, 06:40:23 PM

Have any of you heard the recent fuss about Pfizer vaccines, An insider whistleblower doctor said there's a good chance patients might in 2-3 years due to blood clotting if they've taken 2 dosages of it.

I'm not sure what to say about it but I was against the Vaccines the very start and didn't believe in it.
I don't go out that often and haven't faced any symptoms of Covid since its rise are there any other like this?

This doesn't only talk about Pfizer vaccines but also in other vaccines as well like AstraZeneca.
https://www.healthline.com/health/astrazeneca-vs-pfizer-vaccine

Both does have that kind of issue about bloodclotting side effects but they do always cleared out that only a small percentage and doesn't hit up 1% for those people
who got that side effect.

Even myself does have doubts and hesitance on taking a shot and that's why im not really that convinced anytime soon.

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Have any of you heard the recent fuss about Pfizer vaccines, An insider whistleblower doctor said there's a good chance patients might in 2-3 years due to blood clotting if they've taken 2 dosages of it.

I'm not sure what to say about it but I was against the Vaccines the very start and didn't believe in it.
I don't go out that often and haven't faced any symptoms of Covid since its rise are there any other like this?

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New variants keep appearing and this makes us have to be vigilant, always following health protocols is the best step, vaccination has not been effective in preventing the virus so WHO must immediately make an effective vaccine, I'm afraid the impact of a pandemic that is too long can create new problems, especially economic problems because at this time There are many companies that have gone bankrupt.

What are you talking about? It is not the responsibility of the WHO to create vaccines. Only the pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer and AstraZeneca can do that. What the WHO can do is to make sure that effective vaccines reach all the counties, so that there is no severe shortage of the medication. Companies in certain sectors (hotels, aviation, tourism.etc) have gone bankrupt, and there is not much we can do about it. Full economic recovery will occur only when the pandemic is contained. And unfortunately, that is at least 6-7 months away.

I'd argue not locking down indefinitely would help out the hospitality and airline industries, but that'd be asking too much for the folks all over the world that are locking up millions of people over something like one or two Covid deaths a day. Seems the strategy for fighting the delta variant was to use the same strategies that didn't work earlier.

The pandemic is already contained for the vast majority of first world nations. As long as there is a working vaccine, there isn't a valid reason to close up businesses. I can promise you there'll be another variant in 6 months that will cause the same amount of "despair", aka a mild cold for those vaccinated.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 24, 2021, 03:00:44 AM

What are you talking about? It is not the responsibility of the WHO to create vaccines. Only the pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer and AstraZeneca can do that. What the WHO can do is to make sure that effective vaccines reach all the counties, so that there is no severe shortage of the medication. Companies in certain sectors (hotels, aviation, tourism.etc) have gone bankrupt, and there is not much we can do about it. Full economic recovery will occur only when the pandemic is contained. And unfortunately, that is at least 6-7 months away.

Could've prevented the economic distress if the government of some countries followed a strict guidelines and did the necessary preventions to stop the entry of the virus in the first place. One example is my country, the virus has been ravaging China already but they didn't seem to care about the people and that they felt that it's offensive to China to close our borders and now here we are celebrating two years of lockdown.

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New variants keep appearing and this makes us have to be vigilant, always following health protocols is the best step, vaccination has not been effective in preventing the virus so WHO must immediately make an effective vaccine, I'm afraid the impact of a pandemic that is too long can create new problems, especially economic problems because at this time There are many companies that have gone bankrupt.

It is clear that we cannot deny that the economy is clearly disrupted by the pandemic, because many companies have to close because there is no income that can be received, even the state is also disturbed because the income sector from taxes is not fulfilled, because companies are closed. the state has not yet had to pay to cover all sectors as a result of the pandemic, which is clearly an inflated health cost that must be borne by the state.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 24, 2021, 03:00:44 AM

What are you talking about? It is not the responsibility of the WHO to create vaccines. Only the pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer and AstraZeneca can do that. What the WHO can do is to make sure that effective vaccines reach all the counties, so that there is no severe shortage of the medication. Companies in certain sectors (hotels, aviation, tourism.etc) have gone bankrupt, and there is not much we can do about it. Full economic recovery will occur only when the pandemic is contained. And unfortunately, that is at least 6-7 months away.

I can't be sure like you said that the pandemic will be controlled for the next 6-7 months, because there are many new variants that arise so that transmission is already difficult to control if you only rely on vaccines. because vaccines can't stop the pandemic, are only temporary so all will be infected again if the health protocol is not properly followed. The epidemic will truly stop if there is an appropriate drug that can be found to be able to control it.

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Now that there is already a vaccine , could it be the end of covid- 19 virus? How are you after one year of covid-19 pandemic?

Since the corona virus has hit all countries, of course it has greatly affected various aspects of our lives and the economic impact has become one of the factors that frustrates us and for the whole community, but even though there is now a vaccine, I don't think this will be the end of the Covid-19 virus, because now the World Health Organization (WHO) has discovered a virus with a new variation like the one in India.

New variants keep appearing and this makes us have to be vigilant, always following health protocols is the best step, vaccination has not been effective in preventing the virus so WHO must immediately make an effective vaccine, I'm afraid the impact of a pandemic that is too long can create new problems, especially economic problems because at this time There are many companies that have gone bankrupt.

Until now, viral mutations are always evolving, but there are already many people who are aware of their health, so they are aware of health protocols. On the other hand, the vaccine that the government continues to provide can suppress the development of the virus, so it is hoped that this problem will be resolved in the near future

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New variants keep appearing and this makes us have to be vigilant, always following health protocols is the best step, vaccination has not been effective in preventing the virus so WHO must immediately make an effective vaccine, I'm afraid the impact of a pandemic that is too long can create new problems, especially economic problems because at this time There are many companies that have gone bankrupt.

What are you talking about? It is not the responsibility of the WHO to create vaccines. Only the pharmaceutical companies such as Pfizer and AstraZeneca can do that. What the WHO can do is to make sure that effective vaccines reach all the counties, so that there is no severe shortage of the medication. Companies in certain sectors (hotels, aviation, tourism.etc) have gone bankrupt, and there is not much we can do about it. Full economic recovery will occur only when the pandemic is contained. And unfortunately, that is at least 6-7 months away.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 24, 2021, 01:30:00 AM

It has nothing to do with where it comes from, in all those countries there are the main vaccines, such as those from Pfizer, Jhonson & Jhonson and others, the question and logic says: "If there is already a vaccine, it must provide immunity" for example in In the case of Colombia, people who have injected the 2 doses of Pfizer still got sick and some died, so where is the effectiveness? It makes no sense for me to vaccinate if the effectiveness is below 33%, this is my personal perception, since pfizer is going for the 3rd dose, and I am sure that at any moment another strain will appear and they will continue to create more vaccines, so stop Me, All this is a business model, and it is very logical, there will come a time when this vaccine will have to be paid for for those who want to be more immunized, this is what I think, obviously in the news or whatever means they will say it is They need to get vaccinated, but according to my understanding, they have to wait at least 4 or 5 years so that they can study the virus well and get an efficient vaccine at least 90% acceptable.

Pfizer has an efficacy of 42% against the delta variant, and not 33% as you claim. It is low, but you need to keep in mind that it offers more than 99.5% efficacy against hospitalization, even from the mutant strains. It is very simple actually. You can analyze whether you will be better off with the vaccine or not. The available data makes it clear that those who are vaccinated are 200 times less likely to die from the delta variant, compared to those who are unvaccinated. And regarding the third booster dose, there is nothing we can do about it. As long as we don't have a better option, it needs to be taken.

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I think that the virus mutates because the people or the scientists who are in charge of the vaccines do not know it by 1005 and if people continue to get vaccinated, even more strains will come out, because little by little they are making drugs Dependent, that is, a vaccine that can really protect takes at least 4 or 5 years to get out, otherwise it can even be dangerous to inject because the long-term side effects are not known.

Now while this continues to develop, the global economic issue has opened the doors to BTC and cryptocurrencies, it is obvious, it is known that the biggest bubble is the dollar, euro, now yes or yes, governments and banks must accept this economy.

Your arguments make no sense, because almost all the mutations appeared in countries where vaccination rates were low. And in many cases, these mutant strains were discovered even before the vaccination campaign started. The most lethal variant (delta) was first discovered in India, at a time when less than 1% of the population there was fully vaccinated. The same goes for the P.1 strain, which was first discovered in Brazil. After vaccination campaign increased it's coverage, the emergence of new strains have slowed down.

It has nothing to do with where it comes from, in all those countries there are the main vaccines, such as those from Pfizer, Jhonson & Jhonson and others, the question and logic says: "If there is already a vaccine, it must provide immunity" for example in In the case of Colombia, people who have injected the 2 doses of Pfizer still got sick and some died, so where is the effectiveness? It makes no sense for me to vaccinate if the effectiveness is below 33%, this is my personal perception, since pfizer is going for the 3rd dose, and I am sure that at any moment another strain will appear and they will continue to create more vaccines, so stop Me, All this is a business model, and it is very logical, there will come a time when this vaccine will have to be paid for for those who want to be more immunized, this is what I think, obviously in the news or whatever means they will say it is They need to get vaccinated, but according to my understanding, they have to wait at least 4 or 5 years so that they can study the virus well and get an efficient vaccine at least 90% acceptable.

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Quote from: Qikiye on August 23, 2021, 07:31:26 PM

The changes that have taken place in the cryptocurrency market after more than a year of the corona virus have borne fairly good results for the cryptocurrency.The people who lost their seasonal jobs in Corona and got in the way are all involved in the cryptocurrency market. As a result, cryptocurrency populations have grown and prices have risen sharply.

The impact of covid which makes many people stay at home makes us have a lot of time, I am also affected by covid because I only work 2 times a week and the rest have to be at home, this makes me think of looking for alternative income, namely crypto trading, bounties, and I'm happy because crypto actually skyrocketed during the pandemic.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 23, 2021, 03:12:05 PM

No, we will not. This virus will become endemic in nature, we will just live with it. We may contain this virus via the continuous vaccination program, but it will not go away anytime soon. Will be years before we can see a relatively normal life again. As it has been seen, even people with complete inoculation can still get infected. So using face mask, social distancing and other health protocols will be observed for years. There are other variants rising so scientists are again in the race to really find the most effective vaccine to counter these variants.

If I am not wrong, some of the manufacturers have already come up with booster doses specifically designed to combat the delta variant. But it needs to be seen whether the people are ready to take these shots. The initial response was very good, as there was a general feeling that the vaccines are upto 95% effective against COVID 19. But the efficacy has reduced as a result of the new strains and now it looks as if the protection guaranteed by the mRNA vaccines last for only around 6 months. Now it will be more difficult to convince the people to get vaccinated.

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