After 1 year of Covid 19 Virus - page 15.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Quote from: oHnK on June 30, 2021, 10:26:50 AM

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

And tell me - is this indicator scientifically substantiated or is it data obtained on a "mathematical model"?
Our indicators in Ukraine are very far from the indicated level. Now the statistics are as follows:
Number of vaccinated 2,001,130 million = 4.83% of the total population
Fully vaccinated 766,718 thousand = 1.85% of the total population
While it is good that new mass vaccination centers are constantly opening, more vaccine options have become available - Sinovac, AstraZeneca, Pfizer / BioNTech

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Quote from: Distinctin on January 23, 2021, 08:20:19 AM

Hopefully there will be no other virus that will come out, and these vaccines created are really effective and safe on the health of the people. We will never forget this covid-19 pandemic, but we are still thankful that it made our experts aware and finally they found the vaccine so people will be safe from the virus. I read that there's a new variant of covid-19, it's more stronger but I believe experts will also find a vaccine against it.

We have to learn from this, still follow the protocol and as soon as possible as the vaccine is available, we should not hesitate getting vaccinated as that's the only way to get back to our normal life.

There will always be something called a virus that is a health hazard. So the term virus doesn't always have to be extremely negative. With vcovid 19 we will have to live and stay strong. I think there will also be another virus, which is digital in nature and attacks networks and many more. What does a vaccination look like?

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This coronavirus period has been really good for the cryptocurrency market actually. Because after getting stuck at home, many people have met this market and learned about cryptocurrencies. And the demand increased at a high rate also. We saw that Bitcoin reached a value over $60k. Ethereum also had an incredible run.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 01, 2021, 01:18:09 PM

Quote from: oHnK on July 01, 2021, 08:38:44 AM

I also know that, but the problem is that people shout that they don't want to be vaccinated for their own reasons, don't want to comply with health protocols, and say that infected people are also just hospital fabrications. After all, it is very difficult to achieve herd immunity, even to maintain herd stupidity. This is rooted in the society of my country. People who are vaccinated can still get it, that's natural because the vaccines that I know come from viruses that are weakened so that the body forms antibodies. There are no antibodies yet, they don't maintain health protocols and hang out with stupid friends too. and become mass stupidity.

You will find Covidiots in most of the countries. One of my colleagues in India was describing about his neighbors back home. The family mocked others for wearing masks and proclaimed that wearing a mask is a sign of cowardness. They roamed around with scant regard to any social distancing protocol. 3 members of the family ended up in the ICU, and out of that one lost his life. And this is not an isolated incident in third world countries. In every nook and corner you will hear about such stories. And the sad part is that, because of these irresponsible people, sometimes others get the infection.

There is no way for them to express their stupidity. At the beginning of the pandemic, they asked to be given a vaccine immediately. After the vaccine was available, he said the vaccine was not safe, after it was confirmed it was safe, he said the president had to be injected first, after the president was injected he said the needle didn't go in. After being proven, he said that only vitamin C was injected into the president, not a vaccine. After it was proven, he said the vaccine was not halal. After confirming it was halal, he said the vaccine could cause death. Now students from many universities are preparing aski for the demo because the president is not doing well. Isn't this just a matter of stupidity?

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In the covid-19 period so far, there have been many people who have left jobless. These people started searching for new ways to make money. And they met cryptocurrencies. They've started making investments into them. The ones who learned about cryptocurrencies well have made a really good profit. And cryptocurrencies really helped them make their financial condition way better than before. But one should never forget that this market is quite volatile. It's better to act carefully.

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Quote from: oHnK on July 01, 2021, 08:38:44 AM

I also know that, but the problem is that people shout that they don't want to be vaccinated for their own reasons, don't want to comply with health protocols, and say that infected people are also just hospital fabrications. After all, it is very difficult to achieve herd immunity, even to maintain herd stupidity. This is rooted in the society of my country. People who are vaccinated can still get it, that's natural because the vaccines that I know come from viruses that are weakened so that the body forms antibodies. There are no antibodies yet, they don't maintain health protocols and hang out with stupid friends too. and become mass stupidity.

You will find Covidiots in most of the countries. One of my colleagues in India was describing about his neighbors back home. The family mocked others for wearing masks and proclaimed that wearing a mask is a sign of cowardness. They roamed around with scant regard to any social distancing protocol. 3 members of the family ended up in the ICU, and out of that one lost his life. And this is not an isolated incident in third world countries. In every nook and corner you will hear about such stories. And the sad part is that, because of these irresponsible people, sometimes others get the infection.

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Quote from: swiftbits on June 30, 2021, 04:52:53 AM

Good for these countries free from the virus. I still feel like developing countries are missing out right now.
Cases are still rising, and it's alarming. Not only because of government lack of action, but lack of resources
I guess densely populated places are most negatively affected right now.

The problem is that people feel stupid about this by ignoring the government's appeals. Ignoring health protocols also refuses to be vaccinated, even though it can make people have good immunity. People even blame the government for being incompetent in dealing with the situation, in fact, it is the people who find it difficult to follow the protocol from the government itself.

Without proper participation from the people itself this virus will continue to spread.

Not even the government will try everything that they know to help lessen the quick spreading of this virus but if people the will continue to
take things for granted, and just keep pointing their fingers with how the government comply with the situations, it's a must that both
the government and people participation with the health protocols will bring big chance to contain this problem.

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Quote from: swiftbits on June 30, 2021, 04:52:53 AM

Good for these countries free from the virus. I still feel like developing countries are missing out right now.
Cases are still rising, and it's alarming. Not only because of government lack of action, but lack of resources
I guess densely populated places are most negatively affected right now.

The problem is that people feel stupid about this by ignoring the government's appeals. Ignoring health protocols also refuses to be vaccinated, even though it can make people have good immunity. People even blame the government for being incompetent in dealing with the situation, in fact, it is the people who find it difficult to follow the protocol from the government itself.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

I also know that, but the problem is that people shout that they don't want to be vaccinated for their own reasons, don't want to comply with health protocols, and say that infected people are also just hospital fabrications. After all, it is very difficult to achieve herd immunity, even to maintain herd stupidity. This is rooted in the society of my country. People who are vaccinated can still get it, that's natural because the vaccines that I know come from viruses that are weakened so that the body forms antibodies. There are no antibodies yet, they don't maintain health protocols and hang out with stupid friends too. and become mass stupidity.

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Quote from: cabron on June 30, 2021, 07:44:06 PM

Seemingly pointless to get vaccinated when we still could be affected after it. And the information I've heard from someone I actually talked to and he is a long-time friend who once affected was that he has to get vaccinated every 6 months?

It's really the new normal by now that we can be forever this way which there will be barriers everywhere. I can't even cross a province this time without papers to show that I got vaccinated.

That is simply not true. The efficacy of the vaccines range from 50% (Sinopharm) to 95% (Pfizer and Moderna). None of the vaccines have yet shown 100% efficacy. So that means that even if you took the most efficient vaccine, there is a small chance to get infected. But irrespective of the brand, the chance of infection will be lower than the unvaccinated people. Now comes the interesting part. Even if you get infected after vaccination, the symptoms will be very mild in most of the cases, because you are already having the antibodies.

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Quote from: cabron on June 30, 2021, 07:44:06 PM

Quote from: TimeTeller on June 30, 2021, 07:01:08 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Quote from: oHnK on June 30, 2021, 10:26:50 AM

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

It is true, even fully vaccinated individuals can still get infected.
Just like what is happening in Indonesia, so it shows that even fully inoculated individuals are still not safe from the virus.
It also depends on what type of vaccine you've got. And consider also the new strains that exist.
Not all vaccine can effectively address those new strains coming out.
Still, what we can do is observe the health protocols and be conscious with your environment.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-06-dozen-vaccinated-doctors-dead-indonesia.html

Seemingly pointless to get vaccinated when we still could be affected after it. And the information I've heard from someone I actually talked to and he is a long-time friend who once affected was that he has to get vaccinated every 6 months?

It's really the new normal by now that we can be forever this way which there will be barriers everywhere. I can't even cross a province this time without papers to show that I got vaccinated.

Wrong , once you are vaccinated you will be carrier but will not be infected meaning you will survive the virus but not those around you .

adn who says you will need to be vaccinated every 6 months? sorry but i never heard about this nor being explained from the health service that injected me the vaccine.

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Quote from: geegaw on June 30, 2021, 12:48:08 PM

Quote from: swiftbits on June 30, 2021, 04:52:53 AM

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How can you complain about the government while they are very serious people and work directly with Covid, even they are very eager to receive equipment and vaccines to fight this pandemic wave but the effectiveness of the vaccine is still not stable and there is no other way but to try to prolong and wait more, most of them have warned about medical and health check, but the general situation is that many people still do not listen to the advice, human resources are not enough for these cases

I am even more surprised at conspiracy lovers. even though all countries in the world are fighting hard against this pandemic. hospitals are full, the economy is weak, many people are out of work, we are all in trouble.
then there are still many who say this is a conspiracy, come on... we must fight together, the government gives orders, and we are part of breaking the corona chain by implementing health protocols. I hope this pandemic ends soon.

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Quote from: TimeTeller on June 30, 2021, 07:01:08 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Quote from: oHnK on June 30, 2021, 10:26:50 AM

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

It is true, even fully vaccinated individuals can still get infected.
Just like what is happening in Indonesia, so it shows that even fully inoculated individuals are still not safe from the virus.
It also depends on what type of vaccine you've got. And consider also the new strains that exist.
Not all vaccine can effectively address those new strains coming out.
Still, what we can do is observe the health protocols and be conscious with your environment.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-06-dozen-vaccinated-doctors-dead-indonesia.html

Seemingly pointless to get vaccinated when we still could be affected after it. And the information I've heard from someone I actually talked to and he is a long-time friend who once affected was that he has to get vaccinated every 6 months?

It's really the new normal by now that we can be forever this way which there will be barriers everywhere. I can't even cross a province this time without papers to show that I got vaccinated.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 30, 2021, 01:21:22 PM

Quote from: oHnK on June 30, 2021, 10:26:50 AM

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

It is true, even fully vaccinated individuals can still get infected.
Just like what is happening in Indonesia, so it shows that even fully inoculated individuals are still not safe from the virus.
It also depends on what type of vaccine you've got. And consider also the new strains that exist.
Not all vaccine can effectively address those new strains coming out.
Still, what we can do is observe the health protocols and be conscious with your environment.

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-06-dozen-vaccinated-doctors-dead-indonesia.html

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Quote from: oHnK on June 30, 2021, 10:26:50 AM

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

Herd immunity needs complete vaccination (two doses) for at least 75% of the population. These figures (2% or 20%) are woefully short of that. Eventually the pandemic will be contained. But we need to be cautious until then. Even if you have two doses of the most efficient vaccine, that doesn't mean that you are safe. You are in danger as long as there are unvaccinated people around you. And don't forget the fact that more lethal strains are being reported nowadays. This is definitely not the time to attend sports events and celebrations.

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Quote from: swiftbits on June 30, 2021, 04:52:53 AM

Good for these countries free from the virus. I still feel like developing countries are missing out right now.
Cases are still rising, and it's alarming. Not only because of government lack of action, but lack of resources
I guess densely populated places are most negatively affected right now.

How can you complain about the government while they are very serious people and work directly with Covid, even they are very eager to receive equipment and vaccines to fight this pandemic wave but the effectiveness of the vaccine is still not stable and there is no other way but to try to prolong and wait more, most of them have warned about medical and health check, but the general situation is that many people still do not listen to the advice, human resources are not enough for these cases

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 29, 2021, 10:30:31 PM

The choice is yours to make. In India, the Delta variant is said to be having a fatality rate of close to 7%. And the deaths that are directly attributed to the vaccination is one in ten million or lower. So you wan to chose whether you want to have a 7% chance of death (by refusing to take the vaccine) or a 0.000001% chance of death (by taking the vaccine). If you are staying in a very low prevalence area such as New Zealand, then you may refuse to take the vaccine. Because there is a very low chance that you may get infected.

The different perspective of people in advance country and developing country is too huge. Education becomes the main factor of people's mindset. In my country, they shouted that in aboard they don't lockdown and can watch the Europe Lague and they compared with the local condition that will implement 100% WFH in some cities which have a highest infected case. In fact, in aboard the total of vaccinated people have reached over 20% of the total population then so different with my country that has reached just 2% of the total population. The government gets hard to handle the pandemic just because of the stupidity and less literation.

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Good for these countries free from the virus. I still feel like developing countries are missing out right now.
Cases are still rising, and it's alarming. Not only because of government lack of action, but lack of resources
I guess densely populated places are most negatively affected right now.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on June 29, 2021, 10:30:31 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on June 29, 2021, 05:03:49 PM

The problem is that any medicine, if certain factors coincide, can be fatal. Even the most simple and seemingly harmless. BUT - not to use the medicine - the path is even more sad. Here, unfortunately, such is the variability - either possible negative exceptions, or there will be guaranteed negative cases. What is happening now looks like a similar situation: there is a shallow river with a huge number of hungry and aggressive crocodiles. A bridge was made across it. And they say to those who want to cross this river - the probability that you will not fall off the bridge is 99%. And some people say - "only 99%? It's very risky, I'll go right across the river"

The choice is yours to make. In India, the Delta variant is said to be having a fatality rate of close to 7%. And the deaths that are directly attributed to the vaccination is one in ten million or lower. So you wan to chose whether you want to have a 7% chance of death (by refusing to take the vaccine) or a 0.000001% chance of death (by taking the vaccine). If you are staying in a very low prevalence area such as New Zealand, then you may refuse to take the vaccine. Because there is a very low chance that you may get infected.

Yes, I absolutely agree that in areas where, due to the low population density, the risks of infection drop sharply and the risks of the consequences of vaccination and the disease become equal. But given that in most cases, the population density in cities is always high, plus there are countries with a very high population density and a huge population (China, India, Indonesia, USA, ....), the risks of infection will still prevail over the risks of vaccination

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Quote from: uneng on June 29, 2021, 07:48:44 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on June 29, 2021, 05:03:49 PM

The problem is that any medicine, if certain factors coincide, can be fatal. Even the most simple and seemingly harmless. BUT - not to use the medicine - the path is even more sad. Here, unfortunately, such is the variability - either possible negative exceptions, or there will be guaranteed negative cases. What is happening now looks like a similar situation: there is a shallow river with a huge number of hungry and aggressive crocodiles. A bridge was made across it. And they say to those who want to cross this river - the probability that you will not fall off the bridge is 99%. And some people say - "only 99%? It's very risky, I'll go right across the river"

They say the probability you will not fall off the bridge is 99%, but in fact it's much less. So I prefer to not cross the bridge until a stone or steel one is built instead. The river crossing can wait. Cheesy

The same way a solid bridge takes a longer time to be built, an efficient vaccine also takes several years to be achieved. So I will just wait patiently and keep considering covid the same threat it was when everything started between the end of 2019 and beginning of 2020. Maybe in 2 or 3 years a real vaccine appears, although it may take even longer.

Here you did not take into account one nuance - you MUST cross the bridge. The coronavirus does not give you a choice - either a high probability of getting sick or "walking across the bridge" which is a vaccine. Yes, I understand that the "bridge was built" very quickly, and did not carry out a full cycle of inspections, as in the construction of other bridges. But the crocodiles in the river are real, and the risk when crossing the river ford is almost 100% .. But everyone chooses his own path - someone to the crocodiles and someone across the bridge

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