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Quote from: johnny11011 on January 08, 2017, 12:18:10 AM

In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination.

Actually human body is like a tree once its dead it just get burried and gives space for new body to exist.

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In the death of life, the knowledge of the various ideas have left the realm of the body to go into the realm of consciousness, there is a seed germination.

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Quote from: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 05:31:02 PM

the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?

That is interesting, how come it's 21 grams? just like 21 million bitcoins... there must be a connection. But seriously, there are really strange things that happen, like the DMT trip that happens as you die (apparently). I've read that the pinneal gland secretes DMT when you die. I want to try DMT myself to see what's all the fuzz about. I've heard Joe Rogan and Terrence Mckenna talking about DMT and its tempting, but I dont have any good sources.

try researching if you can do an ayuhasca ceremony. though you gotta find a trusted facilitator/shaman for that. the experience is basically very personal & most get what they need or even perhaps deserve - healing in process. it sort of takes the blinds off this current reality. highly recommend for becoming aware of where our ego being begin and where our spiritual being end withing the construct of your essence.

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Quote from: Mersedes on January 06, 2017, 05:00:53 PM

I can reassure you. Even if there is a God in Paradise you will not get anyway. The 10 commandments do not abide by no one. It is not possible. Those who wrote them dream about a better world when everyone will comply with them. The Communists also wrote their dreams, but they are not real.

Time change poeple, and people evolve. Me and friend of mine came to solution that every religion last abouth 3000 years. Probably im wrong, but if you look yunger generations there are more and more people that are Atheists or Agnostics. Which mean that people are geting more and more logical and try to find rational solution in things, which is good if you ask me.

If governments were not interested in the existence of religion this process would go much faster. In our time religious leaders take an active part in political life on the side of the state. Peddling faith in God.

Unfortunately there will always be people in world how will try to use other people. If not use people than try to use system. But we can only hope that in time this people will cease to exist .

It seems to me that such times will not come. At all times there were people who exploited others. The Church is no exception. I don't believe in an afterlife and that I am not getting worse. I live for the day.

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I believe the only way to be free from the cycle of births and deaths is to attain 'Moksha' (salvation) which can only be attained by devoting one's life to the welfare of the good. (References from Hindu myths)

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Quote from: bra4our on January 07, 2017, 09:30:32 AM

As a Christian, after death if you accepted Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will have eternal life in Heaven but if you don't, you are going to spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

You think about what you say! If a person is afraid of fire because it burns, then what's the lake of fire after death? How would he suffer all the time? So he will not feel pain. And then what's torture?

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As a Christian, after death if you accepted Christ as your personal Lord and Savior you will have eternal life in Heaven but if you don't, you are going to spend eternity in the Lake of fire.

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Quote from: Mersedes on January 06, 2017, 05:00:53 PM

I can reassure you. Even if there is a God in Paradise you will not get anyway. The 10 commandments do not abide by no one. It is not possible. Those who wrote them dream about a better world when everyone will comply with them. The Communists also wrote their dreams, but they are not real.

Time change poeple, and people evolve. Me and friend of mine came to solution that every religion last abouth 3000 years. Probably im wrong, but if you look yunger generations there are more and more people that are Atheists or Agnostics. Which mean that people are geting more and more logical and try to find rational solution in things, which is good if you ask me.

If governments were not interested in the existence of religion this process would go much faster. In our time religious leaders take an active part in political life on the side of the state. Peddling faith in God.

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Quote from: Aikonio on January 06, 2017, 12:32:03 PM

Similarly, when clinical death. Doctors fix heart failure, but the activity of the brain at this moment does not stop. Because oxygen starvation can result in hallucinations, but the person can still hear doctors. This explains the vision of the people.

There is so much that poeple doesnt know about human body. Yes we have descovered a lot of it, but there are still findings everyday. Someday maybe they will pruve that god exist or that it doesnt, and same is for after life. Till that day come it all goes areund do "you" believe it or not. But sure it is interesting topic to speak of Cheesy

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There is no God. I agree with the previous post. This logically explains the visions during clinical death. Believers do not explain anything. They always just say that it is not because God is. Nonsense!

Yes you and him are correct when you say that some things can be explained with sciance. But sciance cant denie that God exist, so there are still chance that God exist. Because we dont know it doesnt mean its not true, and other way around. I my self believe in sciance and things i can see and get to pruve its truth, but things i dont know and cant prove.. they are exactly that unknown and unproven.

I can reassure you. Even if there is a God in Paradise you will not get anyway. The 10 commandments do not abide by no one. It is not possible. Those who wrote them dream about a better world when everyone will comply with them. The Communists also wrote their dreams, but they are not real.

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Nobody can tell you if there is life after death. We can speculate but the chances of there being a life after death are pretty slim to none. Sure if you choose to believe if fairy tales then maybe that gives you some comfort but the reality is no one knows for sure. I personally think that there is only one life and we are living it now. After we die its over and nothing happens after that. Our time has come and gone basically..

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Quote from: Aikonio on January 06, 2017, 12:32:03 PM

Similarly, when clinical death. Doctors fix heart failure, but the activity of the brain at this moment does not stop. Because oxygen starvation can result in hallucinations, but the person can still hear doctors. This explains the vision of the people.

There is so much that poeple doesnt know about human body. Yes we have descovered a lot of it, but there are still findings everyday. Someday maybe they will pruve that god exist or that it doesnt, and same is for after life. Till that day come it all goes areund do "you" believe it or not. But sure it is interesting topic to speak of Cheesy

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There is no God. I agree with the previous post. This logically explains the visions during clinical death. Believers do not explain anything. They always just say that it is not because God is. Nonsense!

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When we die we turn into nothing. Reincarnation is nothing but a myth. When we die we lost our body and brain functions. Our memories and consciousness will be turn to nothing also since it is present in the brain. So if you ever decided to commit suicide then you are reducing yourself to the level of shit. Dying is the end of life and nothing more. This is my idea outside of Christian realm.

But I do believe that there is life after death it gives me hope that someday I will be resurrected again and join my brothers and sisters in the kingdom of our creator.

I have spent most of todays morning (before sleeping) reading about reincarnation

Most noteable research I found was by Ian Stevenson who researched 2500 children who claimed to have memories from their past lives

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/bering-in-mind/ian-stevensone28099s-case-for-the-afterlife-are-we-e28098skepticse28099-really-just-cynics/

It's... Hmm

It makes me wonder, but he's only one guy
I'd have to see a few more researchers in order to believe something to be valid

But it does make me wonder

Genes are not explored to there full potential, so there are more than enough things we dont know. Maybe that is not reincarnation, maybe its some part memories of your ancestors...

There are also children here that reported about their previous lives which are not genetically tied to them at all

It's all hallucinations. The human brain can draw pictures that people will believe as if he could see them realistically. The way the brain. This especially affects young people. They often see in the room, who was not there and there.

I thinkn you could be right abouth that. Hallucinations can sometime be real pain in the a.. , and im not sure how that affect yunger people. But that could explain somethings, because as you said, children dont know difference betveen real things and hallucinations...

Similarly, when clinical death. Doctors fix heart failure, but the activity of the brain at this moment does not stop. Because oxygen starvation can result in hallucinations, but the person can still hear doctors. This explains the vision of the people.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on January 06, 2017, 11:07:22 AM

Nobody knows what happens next, obviously. We can only be quite sure that we won't have our body anymore. I think the mind will keep living, though. Maybe, it will be just our pure thoughts and thoughts of others. In this case there won't be any specific place we are in, because without a body there is no space for us. So just thought being nowhere. Or we can have phantom bodies and not even know we died. You know, I'm thinking of the problem of us being dead but not knowing that. What if our bodies are already not real and only the mind exists and we just don't remember how we died?

If you die then your brain could anything you draw, but in others it wouldn't work. Once you communicate with other people means you are alive. I say to you, and we do not know. I am sure that you are alive, and after death there will be nothing.

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Nobody knows what happens next, obviously. We can only be quite sure that we won't have our body anymore. I think the mind will keep living, though. Maybe, it will be just our pure thoughts and thoughts of others. In this case there won't be any specific place we are in, because without a body there is no space for us. So just thought being nowhere. Or we can have phantom bodies and not even know we died. You know, I'm thinking of the problem of us being dead but not knowing that. What if our bodies are already not real and only the mind exists and we just don't remember how we died?

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Quote from: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 05:31:02 PM

the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?

Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho.

A good way to test this would be to replace all the deathbeds in a testing facility type hospital with bed-like electronic scales and monitor the patients one by one as they die. Measurements of weight, perspiration, gas emissions and excretions could be taken to verify all results. If results repeat with all patients and also in a couple different testing facility hospitals then there should be a strong case for this 21-gram consciousness hypothesis. Should be an interesting experiment.

Good idea. I suppose you have read about the one time it was done? My guess is that doctors and hospitals would be opposed to doing this because it might prove that there is such a thing as a spirit, that actually has weight. The expense would be great, because the area where each patient was kept would have to be sealed, physically. Patients are people. So, it might be difficult sealing an area and yet allowing medication to enter as necessary to keep the patient alive.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on January 05, 2017, 07:55:31 PM

Quote from: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 05:31:02 PM

the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?

Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho.

A good way to test this would be to replace all the deathbeds in a testing facility type hospital with bed-like electronic scales and monitor the patients one by one as they die. Measurements of weight, perspiration, gas emissions and excretions could be taken to verify all results. If results repeat with all patients and also in a couple different testing facility hospitals then there should be a strong case for this 21-gram consciousness hypothesis. Should be an interesting experiment.

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Quote from: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 05:31:02 PM

the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?

Yes, but that may be a lose of breath, emptying of bowls and other air that got stuck in body... who knows but that is interesting tho.

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I'm a little bit of a prophet.

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Stop, just stop. You're delusions are getting out of control.

Hi, Fluffer. According to the definition of prophet at Dictionary.com, at http://www.dictionary.com/browse/prophet?s=t, you can be a prophet, too.

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Quote from: Morbid on January 05, 2017, 05:31:02 PM

the big question is then:
is the brain's function being the source of consciousness or its a mere transmitter of consciousness which also gives us ability to create taking into account you have a functioning vessel. has anybody heard of 21 grams that people lose the moment they die?

That is interesting, how come it's 21 grams? just like 21 million bitcoins... there must be a connection. But seriously, there are really strange things that happen, like the DMT trip that happens as you die (apparently). I've read that the pinneal gland secretes DMT when you die. I want to try DMT myself to see what's all the fuzz about. I've heard Joe Rogan and Terrence Mckenna talking about DMT and its tempting, but I dont have any good sources.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 04, 2017, 05:10:42 PM

I'm a little bit of a prophet.

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Stop, just stop. You're delusions are getting out of control.

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