Topic: Agriculture can save your country from recession - page 4. (Read 1163 times)

The purpose of what we want to discuss relates to the movement to facilitate agriculture which originates from individuals, groups or assistance from the government, farmer groups are only tasked with developing their potential in the agricultural sector and they do not need to think about capital or land. This idea is the same as what I conveyed in the previous post, that the presence of the government in my area has done extraordinary things to help small communities and there are also some people who share land and capital with independent farmer groups. The nature of it might be profit sharing or it depends on how the pattern gets better and most importantly farmers can get money to facilitate their family life.

Agricultural products are a necessity and if they can be facilitated properly then there is big hope in this sector to make people more independent in terms of looking for finances for their family needs. In addition to the availability of capital and the harvesting process must also be monitored properly, so that farmers are not confused in selling their crops to people who ask below the standard price.

I appreciate your thought regarding the issue. I personally believe which countries, that depend on agriculture will never go into recession. What I see as the reason for this in many countries the government has restricted the import of their delicate goods because there is dollar crisis. At that moment government give the most importance to food related imports among the basic needs. If a country is self-sufficient in agriculture, then I think all the problems caused by the financial recession at the international level cannot have any effect on that country. but if there is a shortage in agriculture, then the country cannot be saved from economic recession.

I agree absolutely that situations, opportunities vary from country to country, and from situation to situation.
I meant something different - constantly pulling "juices" from the state (read - from the budget and other people's taxes) may be comfortable, but it is not very right, provided that you are able to work. You should always try to find some options for development and earnings. It seems to me that even an attempt to unite a significant group of people with not very large incomes to share the land and get the effect of synergy is not a bad way.  At the same time, we are well aware that agricultural products will be the last thing that mankind will stop consuming, especially in countries that are not very rich.

Not everyone's destiny is the same and there are some people who do not have the income to create job opportunities in agribusiness, so that assistance from the government can help people who cannot afford to cultivate agribusiness. Fully relying on the government is not a solution, but this assistance really helps people who cannot afford to develop agricultural systems. Financial limitations can prevent people from developing their agribusiness potential and that's why they need help from them for the first steps.

When the options you convey can be used by some people or low-income people independently it will be much better. What I mean in general and for people who do not have specific funds to develop. I also don't really understand how the pattern is followed by people in your country, but all opportunities must be used so that people can increase their income to support their lives.

And why be dependent on the state for his help and subsequent dependency ?
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So - you should use all possible options, and not "sit on the neck of the state".

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In the area where I live there is the term farmer groups facilitated by the government and they are given access to any needs in the process of planting vegetables and rice for market needs. But I don't see the potential for these groups to become independent after they are given assistance and instead they cannot continue the program after it ends. The government has provided many programs for agriculture, but very few foster groups have been able to develop and be able to continue these programs individually. Agriculture is no longer being encouraged by the younger generation in the area where I live and they tend to work in other sectors that are not related to agriculture, so that such an area of land becomes unproductive and is only used once for growing rice.

There must be education from an early age about agriculture so that the younger generation does not think that managing agriculture cannot provide great benefits in order to achieve financial freedom. Agriculture is a source of needs and there are good prospects in agriculture if it can be managed properly, the presence of the government to ensure the availability of raw materials from the planting process to harvest can help young people to enjoy farming again. Currently the government does have the program, but education is not going well, so there are limits for the younger generation to be directly involved in agriculture.

The government should make the people self reliant which will make them grow their necessary food crops. This surely helps with the growth of agriculture all around the country. Here governments need to be more productive. When a common man grows, surely it'll be pesticide free and healthy. Governments need to take steps on collecting the food that are excess after their needs. Storing it in right warehouse will help with export and the same could contribute something to the economy.

Toward food aid to Africa. I remember from my childhood (70-80 years of the last century), everyone helped African countries with food, it was normal and usual. As a child I believed in everything that was said. About 10 years ago I came back to this topic. I came back for a reason. I used to travel a lot, and of course - in African countries too. Next, I ask you to be pragmatic and without offense.
I will not name specific countries, I'm sure there are representatives of these countries here and they will be unpleasant that their country will be such information. Therefore, I will describe my observations and thoughts in general terms. The first thing that caught my eye is a very strongly developed habit of demanding food, and almost complete absence of the habit and desire to work.
The local population told me a lot of reasons why they do not want to work, but they are all excuses.
The main issues are 2:
1. I am absolutely sure that such assistance is a cover for very large, global-scale fraud with grain and other systemic foodstuffs.
2. This is why generation after generation is artificially created and raised to demand food. Instead of using the money that international funds allocate every year (which is a HUGE amount) to build large agricultural holdings, train the local population, give them WORK, and start growing crops in Africa that are so necessary for the inhabitants of African countries.

I realize that it is extremely difficult to grow crops in the Sahara, but Egypt somehow provides for itself, and moreover imports a lot of products to the world. Algeria and Libya also cultivate crops. These are the 3 countries that have a huge desert on their territory.   And most of the others are in much better conditions for agro.
If you look at a map of agricultural land in Africa, you will be very surprised - there is a LOT of it ! But for some reason nobody uses it for industrial agribusiness !

Everyone doesn't grow at the same rate or in the same way. Some nations face more challenges than others due of their geographical positioning, historical experiences, or limited resources. It's like a marathon where some folks start way back in the pack. No matter how fast they try to catch up, they never seem to be able to. Let's not give up hope, though. You're right that agriculture is crucial; some communities even managed to put it to good use during terrible times. Even though agriculture isn't a silver bullet, it plays a critical role. Education, infrastructure, and health care all require increased funding. It's a long way to go, and all nations should pitch in to support these places. A lot of people and organisations are trying to change that. Let's keep talking about this. Improving conditions begins with raising awareness

Agriculture can lift out some countries that are having financial crisis to something new, but the thing is that many countries hardly pay much attention to agriculture, like in some African countries they don't believe agriculture have a way of solving problems or even developing the country to a standard that some European countries can come and do businesses of different kind. No matter how local it might be I see agriculture as a means of change, but the problem there is that the government ain't supportive of that movement that's why it looks like agriculture is for only the poor in some part of Africa, like where I'm from.

I understand the position of each different country makes them have benefits that can be labeled with what they want, as in the case you mentioned buying Chinese rice with India, this is completely yes, but in what I'm talking about poor countries, the story doesn't have the potential to grow in a fair way relative to the overall global level of development. They need a lot of factors to help them get out of the food shortage before they can have the health to learn, just like in some other parts of the world that I've heard have very high agricultural output as large as Southeast Asia, they were also colonized countries in the past, and agriculture is the main area that helps them to progress gradually and to keep up with the pace of change in society.

OP you are funny, you talk about agriculture as if it's something new, don't you know that before you are born this agriculture of a thing was present? If it's the solution to everything we won't come into this world full of poverty and hunger.

Imagine sowing 10 plots of land and some barbarians invade your land and burn all your crops and kidnap many women from your land, is that not the end to your cultivation? Is agriculture the tool to solve such problem? I am just going back into the books of history.

There are many things you aren't adding to your point, Agriculture can bring food to your table if you are good at it, but try to plant on millions of acres in your country first to feed the multitudes, you will see that some things are not adding up.

Like I have always tell my younger ones, to be a leader is not easy and politics is stealing from one group of people and feeding them to another group of people.

I think it's not a job if you own the farm but it's more like a hobby and it can be profitable if you decide to sell your crops. There are still jobs out there related to agriculture which you can apply and work for. There were many farmers on my place but they are still poor. Maybe these people are not educated enough, especially in terms of finances. Yes, farming is wide and not only limited to veggies.

I think animals are also covered with it. It's always better to start what we are planning immediately. It could be that we will start planning now and then do the move tomorrow or two. Farming takes time to see the results so we should act quickly.

Yes. like the old people in my country. the dominant livelihood is farming, in this case planting rice, always saves part of the crop for the food needs of the family. Even if the price of rice rises, this will not be a major problem because they already have a buffer stock of rice that has been stored for 1 year's needs and is sufficient.

True, and it is proven that countries that still make agriculture their main economic activity are not affected by the world economic recession, industrialized countries such as the USA, Europe and others are very dependent on many things, for example if there is an increase in oil prices it can create serious problems, besides that the need for human life is agriculture so that it will become a high-value commodity in the future.

I get that you're trying to sell something right here, and in some parts of Africa the agriculture path may have been viable/already being implemented if not something that the industry has already implemented a while ago, but you gotta consider their situation as well that led to that dilemma. Perhaps the land isn't that nurturing? Perhaps the fact that a large part of the country/continent is being exploited by White-American led companies for precious metals and diamonds poisoned the land/diverted the manpower which is supposed to be for farming? There's a lot of things that are at play here beyond the notion that "they are not using the agriculture method to feed themselves". Surely they must have thought of that already, after all Africa boasts some of the smartest people on the planet. It's all a matter of circumstances really in my opinion.

A country that depends on agriculture can have a good economy especially in the aspect of raw materials for export. There are many countries that solely depend in agriculture export and they are doing well even though they don't have the man power for the kind of technology that is required to create technological tools and equipments for export. Countries like China are able to develop there economy based on raw materials and technological aspect to the standard it is today and if more countries are able to  do the same, things is going to be good and better with more competition for customers making the price of goods to be lesser for importation or exportation.

Mostly in the first-world countries, there is not enough land to carry out wide commercial agriculture investment, but in the third-world countries, if the government of such a country or even NGOs decides to take agriculture and investment seriously, they will likely not experience recession like you said. But the problem is that in most of those countries that have enough land space, only a few people are concerned with agricultural investment. Food is the primary source of human survival, and if a country is good at producing commercial agricultural products, they can export them to other countries, which can contribute to generating revenue for the country and help build their economic system.  OP, although the land which you cultivated your tomatoes is not looking so good, but I commend you effort. I whish to ask, did you do some soil text for identificatuon of heavy metal or other harmful element?

Small things will become bigger and agriculture is an important source of meeting the needs of human life.

Talking about agriculture broadly is not limited to tomatoes because agriculture covers all the needs of human life which are not limited to vegetables. What you do can actually have an impact on the need for processed tomatoes for various needs, every country needs tomatoes as a raw material for making sauces and others. If you can cultivate properly and can be increased bigger then the source of income from tomatoes can also bring you to a stage of better financial capability.

In my country there are many tomato farmer that can send their children to university and many tomato farmers are also able to provide a better life for their families, because tomatoes are also an important part of several kitchen ingredients that are used every day to make food

When a country becomes fully self-sufficient in agriculture, its dependence on imports will continue to decrease. As a result, the country can easily get rid of the effects of financial recession. Not only that, there is a great opportunity to earn money as an exporter. Therefore, the government of each country has a different focus on agriculture in their country. When a country achieves perfection in agriculture it will move towards prosperity.