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legendary
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October 26, 2020, 09:44:46 AM
#65
^^^ I must thank franky1 for showing how worthy I am. Thank you, franky1, for advertising me, so that folks check out my links.

You are so clever. You get paid for your trolling, even though you help to promote the things you seem to be against. You play both sides at the same time, advertising for both, the knowledge of the Covid scam, and also those who want to keep the Covid scam going.

You are truly genius.

Everybody... go to the posts of frank1 to see how he is promoting the Covid scam at the same time he is making money by being a troll against the Covid scam idea. Genius.

Thanks, franky1.

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legendary
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October 25, 2020, 09:52:37 PM
#64
badecker been talking to himself about sweden since may. but lacks actually nderstanding sweden. let alone his own american state of arizona.

so badecker wanted arizona to be more like sweden
well heres one part of how sedwen reacted to covid
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One March 17 FHM directive to Stockholm hospitals stated any patients over 80 or with a body mass index above 40 should not be admitted to intensive care, because they were less likely to recover. Other reports describe sick care home residents being administered a palliative cocktail of morphine and midazolam, because the homes were not equipped to administer oxygen, something some doctors have described as ‘active euthanasia.’

so it becomes even more obvious when seeing badecker advertise pill mill drugs as daily supplements for people not even sick/symptomatic. along with euthenisation techniques for those that are sick that hit a particular category of age/weight. it becomes very clear which group of people he is being brainwashed by

im guessing knowing badecker is in arizona he probably also follows the callus racist groups that would add mexicans into the euthenisation category. sounds like something he would desire

below is an example of a person describing himself by projecting to someone else.
he is the only one 'advertising' heck his footer is filled with it
legendary
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October 25, 2020, 07:45:04 PM
#63
Of course, this doesn't mean that people CAN'T lockdown or wear masks in Sweden if they want to. It's just that Sweden doesn't have any reason for making it mandatory. Actually, they never really had an outbreak of Covid. At least not one that was proven to be a Covid virus, or really even deaths beyond the same number that hit any year. So the country is through playing games with the rest of the world.


Sweden Refuses To Impose New Lockdown Measures, Saying People Have Suffered Enough



Despite Sweden mirroring other countries on the continent with rising coronavirus infections, the government has held firm in refusing to lockdown its population, weighing the untold misery and health impacts of isolation against the threat of COVID-19.

"The elderly, they said, have suffered enough," writes Fraser Nelson.

"They have spent months being advised to avoid public transport, shopping malls and other parts of everyday life. And the result? Loneliness. Misery. This is more than unpleasant: it quickly translates into depression, mental health issues and mortality.

"We cannot only think about infection control," said Lena Hallengren, Sweden's health minister, "we also need to think about public health."

An important distinction: "focus on Covid to the exclusion of other conditions and you risk lives."

Hallengren's 21 page report also uncovered a "decline in mental health" that was "likely to worsen the longer the recommendations remain in place," leading officials to lift lockdown restrictions that previously applied to over-70s.

After deciding to take a "herd immunity" approach to COVID-19 at the start of the pandemic, Sweden was roundly condemned for not following the harsh lockdowns imposed by virtually every other major European country.


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legendary
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August 14, 2020, 11:49:42 AM
#62
Might as well have eyes on Sweden. Facemasks are in the way in other countries.

 Grin

EDIT: I mean, have people been dropping dead all around you on the streets?
legendary
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August 12, 2020, 09:23:53 PM
#61
Finally it is coming out into the open. The US media lied about Sweden.


The Public Health Disaster of Sweden's No Lockdown Policy...



Despite this overwhelming scientific evidence of the Swedish approach as the most effective combined dual health and economic-based approach in the entire world, I was amazed at the volume of Western media lies and propaganda about Sweden’s approach being a horrific failure. Western media in the US and the UK were all too eager to oblige in spreading complete lies and fabricated garbage by painting Sweden’s massive success as a complete failure by printing headlines that blared, “Sweden has nearly 10 times the number of COVID-19-related deaths than its Nordic neighbors”,  “Sweden’s coronavirus death rate is nearly 6 times that of neighboring Norway and Finland”, “A Very Swedish Sort of Failure”,  and “Sweden’s Coronavirus Experiment Has Well and Truly Failed.” And just in case you’re not the type to watch the nightly news, the Western media flooded the internet with the same false narrative to ensure that everyone that heard about these stories and consequently searched for additional stories about Sweden’s no lockdown policy would receive plenty of confirmation about these false narratives. The mission of these fake, non-science and non-mathematical based stories was to ensure that the maximum amount of people around the world remain completely unthinking, obedient slaves to State mandated, martial-law style lockdowns and stay-at-home orders, in which the consequent social isolation from others would not only produce devastating  financial and  psychological effects but also have the added bonus, for the ruling class, of producing a mental state among the global population extremely receptive to hate and fear.  Yesterday, I conducted a search on the Google Search engine for “the failure of Sweden’s coronavirus response”, and Google, as an apparatus of the parasitic ruling class, returned 52M results for this topic.

And though a search for “the success of Swedens’ coronavirus response” returned 63.9M results, and one may see the results and perhaps think that for the first time in history, the Google search engine did not have an agenda in its search results, a quick glance at the titles of the articles on the entire first page quickly dispel such faith. The first articles for this search were titled, “Has Sweden’s Controversial Covid19 Strategy Been Successful?”, “Dramatic Drop in Deaths Doesn’t Mean Plan Worked”, “Misinformation and De-Contextualization”, “Sweden’s Prime Minister Rejects Criticism”, and “A Warning from Sweden’s Coronavirus Response”. Although a few of these articles appear that they may focus on the positive aspects of Sweden’s response, they did not. Every single article focused on the slightly negative outcomes of their response, and completely ignored their much more heavily positive outcomes, whereby the results of this “positive” search were nearly indistinguishable from the results of the “negative” search about Sweden’s covid19 response.

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 12:07:56 PM
#60
Large numbers in America come from one basic thing. Deaths from multitudes of things other than CV are being applied to the CV count.


The second reason for large numbers in America is that Americans aren't requiring proof that any of the deaths are from CV. So, it's easy to manipulate the numbers to anything that the number-makers want. For all we know, the CV number is 0 (zero). We The People don't have any real proof to the opposite. All we have is hearsay from our government, medical, and media leaders. It almost seems like Americans have forgotten what it means to have proof.


However, if anyone has proof that the number-makers are telling the truth, please show us the proof, so that we know when to take this pandemic seriously.


Go to the site to watch the video. I wonder if the Texas Ranger ever caught the guy. Simply guys sticking up for their gals.


Watch: Park Ranger Thrown Into Lake In Texas Over 'Social Distancing' [attempted] Enforcement



But often individuals' desire for a rapid return to normal is butting up against continuing social distance requirements still in place in most states, even those already opening up their economies.

A viral video showed one such recent tense encounter in Texas, when a park ranger attempted to break-up a large group of young partiers at a large city park and nature area. It happened at the Commons Ford Metropolitan Park in Austin, Texas. A group on Lake Austin was reportedly unlawfully drinking and smoking on the grounds when a ranger approached and ordered them to "disperse" also due to people apparently not standing six feet apart.

That's when things got physical, resulting in the officer being pushed or thrown into the water, according to widely circulating footage:


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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 10:18:31 AM
#59
USA done repatriation flights of near 50k americans from china in january
USA didnt lock them in a hotel. but told them to go home and try to stay home.
they didnt
which is why america has large numbers

sweden didnt do any large repatriations. also sweden implemented social distancing in february where by they didnt even get 50 daily cases until 10th of march

yet america didnt do anything in february. and didnt lockdown anything till march 13th+

so while swedens social distancing from february got people into a spacial awareness routine to allow for an r0 of 1.2 by the time march came along

america for instance 500 on march 14th when people actually started to get into a routine. but as we all know it takes a few weeks to see results which is why america had the constant up rise till april

stupid thing is the week before and first week of US lockdown had an r0 of between 4 and 10
second week of us lockdown still had a 2 to 4 r0
these numbers of 4-10 shows alot of importing it in

where as sweden that started social distancing in february before even getting the 50th case had a stable 1.2 r0

but again i said it before
swedens 1.2 r0 is not plateauing. its just a slower rise. but will hit a critical number eventually when additional restrictions are needed
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:47:35 AM
#58
The sequence isn't a sequence of linked DNA/RNA. The sequence is the process

your own words used against you
because reality is the rna sequence is the sequence
but what your failing to do is try to talk about the process

but i already debunked your scripts about the process. because science proven that the process has been done right

science has proven the process
they sampled covid. they then took samples and put them into other organism(rats/ferrets) and they got sick.
showing that it causes illness
then then tested the rats/ferrets and seen the pathogen sequence was the same in humans as in animals they tested.
i explained this already you ignorant idiot.

move onto to a different script you have been debunked.
the RNA sequence(results of the tests) has been proven and vaildated by other peers
the process sequence(testing, comparing, infecting other organism, comparing) has been proven

so move on to a new script because this current one your trying to push has been debunked.

My words are extremely important because they show that nobody has given us any process that they have used to even prove that there is a Covid-19 virus, much less to show that anyone has been infected by it.

This is the whole reason behind the Sweden non-lockdown. There was no process and proof shown. So, Sweden gave warning to their people, and then went on with life. They are STILL waiting for somebody to show their sequencing process.

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:42:45 AM
#57
The sequence isn't a sequence of linked DNA/RNA. The sequence is the process

your own words used against you
because reality is the rna sequence is the sequence
but what your failing to do is try to talk about the process

but i already debunked your scripts about the process. because science proven that the process has been done right

science has proven the process
they sampled covid. they then took samples and put them into other organism(rats/ferrets) and they got sick.
showing that it causes illness
then then tested the rats/ferrets and seen the pathogen sequence was the same in humans as in animals they tested.
i explained this already you ignorant idiot.

move onto to a different script you have been debunked.
the RNA sequence(results of the tests) has been proven and vaildated by other peers
the process sequence(testing, comparing, infecting other organism, comparing) has been proven

so move on to a new script because this current one your trying to push has been debunked.
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:34:01 AM
#56
that whole subdirectory of /sars-cov-2-seqs/ was entirely about the ~2000 sequences that are covid.
Actually, it would be nice if you were clear about the things you talk about.

Let me point out an important point to you. Neither of us linked 2000 cases. Rather, we said some words that included the number "2000," and the word "cases."

Nobody links to cases except the doctors on the scene of those cases. The rest of us only link to words.

The thing we are looking for is the proof that those cases are real, and that they were done right. Without the form of sequencing listed that was used, nobody knows anything about the cases. This means that nobody even knows that Covid exists except in some lab in Wuhan.


I don't have a need to understand Koch's Postulates. Why? They aren't important... to me or anybody. They are extremely outdated. They were outdated in 1937 when Rivers updated them.

1. your trying to swap the words 2000 sequences to be 2000 cases. and then use YOUR word cases to say there are no cases
.. reality is that there are 2000 RNA sequences on that link
.. next you try to say the qord sequence is about the method of testing. no the sequences are order of the rna. like the sequence of an alphabet is abcde.. the sequence of covids rna has a certain order

so again you have failed to even understand that.

2. as for if its done right. again its not a sequence that was done by one lab. or one patient or one doctor or one country. but a whole lot of different patients, doctors, labs ad countries. which if you understood how bitcoins decentralised verification works. by having multiple sources it becomes very easy to work out which versions are faulty and which ones have done a valid process

which just goes to show, your now revealing you dont even understand how bitcoin works. which must really suck for you, being on this forum for years but cant even grap bitcoins basic peer vaildation method

Are you really one of those who does medical tests that people rely on? And you don't even know what sequencing is all about?

The sequence isn't a sequence of linked DNA/RNA. The sequence is the process you follow to get to any point of your investigation. It might include a DNA/RNA sequence, but that isn't what it is. You are simply twisting words and understanding in what you say. But you always do that. Why?

The sequencing that Koch and Rivers were talking about, is the process for finding things out. So, if any scientist or medical person wants to prove that he found Covid somewhere, he has to use a sequence of certain steps that he goes through to determine what he found.

To be a good sequence of steps, they must be very similar to what Rivers showed. They can be more detailed steps, but they need to be at least as detailed as Rivers.

So far, we don't seem to have any sequence listed that shows that there is a virus at all. What is the sequence, that is, what is the process that a doctor used to get to the point that he thought that Covid existed somewhere? That's what is important.

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:20:45 AM
#55
that whole subdirectory of /sars-cov-2-seqs/ was entirely about the ~2000 sequences that are covid.
Actually, it would be nice if you were clear about the things you talk about.

Let me point out an important point to you. Neither of us linked 2000 cases. Rather, we said some words that included the number "2000," and the word "cases."

Nobody links to cases except the doctors on the scene of those cases. The rest of us only link to words.

The thing we are looking for is the proof that those cases are real, and that they were done right. Without the form of sequencing listed that was used, nobody knows anything about the cases. This means that nobody even knows that Covid exists except in some lab in Wuhan.


I don't have a need to understand Koch's Postulates. Why? They aren't important... to me or anybody. They are extremely outdated. They were outdated in 1937 when Rivers updated them.

1. your trying to swap the words 2000 sequences to be 2000 cases. and then use YOUR word cases to say there are no cases because you say only doctors have cases
.. reality is that there are 2000 RNA sequences on that link. a link i showed and talked about. a link you showed and talked about

.. next you try to say the word sequence is about the method of testing. no the sequences are order of the rna. like the sequence of an alphabet is abcde.. the sequence of covids rna has a certain order

so again you have failed to even understand that.

2. as for if its done right. again its not a sequence obtainted and done by one lab. or one patient or one doctor or one country. but a whole lot of different patients, doctors, labs and countries. which if you understood how bitcoins decentralised verification works. by having multiple sources it becomes very easy to work out which versions are faulty and which ones have done a valid process.
you are really an idiot if your trying to say all 2000 are wrong. because the fact that multiple locations and tests confirm each other show that they all followed the right process

which just goes to show, your now revealing you dont even understand how bitcoin works. which must really suck for you, being on this forum for years but cant even grasp bitcoins basic peer vaildation method
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:04:25 AM
#54
Continual mixing up of facts with what is irrelevant about the facts, is part of the franky1 scheme to keep people thinking that there is a pandemic. Look at how the scheme works, below.

This post^^, alone, shows how off-base franly1 is. franky1 hasn't even figured out that it isn't a particular sequencing that counts, but rather, it is the proper sequence and how well the steps in the sequence are adhered to.
by the very fact that there are 2000 different submissions using different patients swabs in different hospitals in different countries all showing the same pattern show that the patients around the world had the same thing.
Since you didn't talk about the sequencing of any of the 2000, the whole thing doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they did with their submissions to come to their conclusions. If there really are 2000 different submissions, they all might have skipped all 6 points of Rivers' updating of Koch's Postulates.
i talked about them i linked them. then just a few posts above you linked it too.. that whole subdirectory of /sars-cov-2-seqs/ was entirely about the ~2000 sequences that are covid.
meaning the topic has been talked about. meaning your now showing your hand trying to hide its relevance because it plays against or ignorant narrative.
it seems today you are flip flopping back to old narratives that the virus is not real again..
very sad. very boring, very obvious
Actually, it would be nice if you were clear about the things you talk about.

Let me point out an important point to you. Neither of us linked 2000 cases. Rather, we said some words that included the number "2000," and the word "cases."

Nobody links to cases except the doctors on the scene of those cases. The rest of us only link to words.

The thing we are looking for is the proof that those cases are real, and that they were done right. Without the form of sequencing listed that was used, nobody knows anything about the cases. This means that nobody even knows that Covid exists except in some lab in Wuhan.



First, thank you for thinking that BADecker is important enough to have an interpretation of Koch's Postulates that needs debunking.

well its now obvious even by your admission you dont even understand koch postulum. so that also shows you have no clue. yet you keep mentioning it.
kochs postulum itself proves the science is right. your interpretation is irrelevant because you dont have one. your just a drone/a sheep that just reads scripts and doesnt even think about what you write. you dont have any independant thought or ability to do independant research. that much is obvious

and you are not important. i know your getting very annoyed that i keep calling out your stupidity. but thats not because your important.
its because other people are important and THEY need to know the important info and they need to know how much of a idiot you are on thee whole covid topics. they need to see how fake your myths and scripts are

but it is always funny to see you backtrack. now that you know that the postulums dont work in your favour your try to pretend they are meaningless because they are 80-120 years old. .. but remember.. it was you that first mentioned them as relevant.

just admit it. it doesnt prove your point because actual science has fulfilled all 4 points of kochs postulum.
but knowing you, you will keep being ignorant, as always. flip flopping and changing scripts then returning to old scripts. never learning anything new or accepting reality

I don't have a need to understand Koch's Postulates. Why? They aren't important... to me or anybody. They are extremely outdated. They were outdated in 1937 when Rivers updated them.

There you go, trolling again. You just know all kinds of things about the way I think because you said you do, right? You sound kinda silly.

Remember that I showed Dr. Kaufman who used Rivers updating. And then, all you did was agree with it, if in no other way, then by not disagreeing.

It's kinda funny to see you accept all kinds of words and numbers about Covid, but not even want to accept that you don't have any proof of Covid. Of course, for you that might not be funny at all. For you that seems to be part of your standard foolishness after all.

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 05:43:18 AM
#53
Continual mixing up of facts with what is irrelevant about the facts, is part of the franky1 scheme to keep people thinking that there is a pandemic. Look at how the scheme works, below.

This post^^, alone, shows how off-base franly1 is. franky1 hasn't even figured out that it isn't a particular sequencing that counts, but rather, it is the proper sequence and how well the steps in the sequence are adhered to.
by the very fact that there are 2000 different submissions using different patients swabs in different hospitals in different countries all showing the same pattern show that the patients around the world had the same thing.
Since you didn't talk about the sequencing of any of the 2000, the whole thing doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they did with their submissions to come to their conclusions. If there really are 2000 different submissions, they all might have skipped all 6 points of Rivers' updating of Koch's Postulates.
i talked about them i linked them. then just a few posts above you linked it too.. that whole subdirectory of /sars-cov-2-seqs/ was entirely about the ~2000 sequences that are covid.
meaning the topic has been talked about. meaning your now showing your hand trying to hide its relevance because it plays against or ignorant narrative.
it seems today you are flip flopping back to old narratives that the virus is not real again..
very sad. very boring, very obvious

First, thank you for thinking that BADecker is important enough to have an interpretation of Koch's Postulates that needs debunking.

well its now obvious even by your admission you dont even understand koch postulum. so that also shows you have no clue. yet you keep mentioning it.
kochs postulum itself proves the science is right. your interpretation is irrelevant because you dont have one. your just a drone/a sheep that just reads scripts and doesnt even think about what you write. you dont have any independant thought or ability to do independant research. that much is obvious

and you are not important. i know your getting very annoyed that i keep calling out your stupidity. but thats not because your important.
its because other people are important and THEY need to know the important info and they need to know how much of a idiot you are on thee whole covid topics. they need to see how fake your myths and scripts are

but it is always funny to see you backtrack. now that you know that the postulums dont work in your favour your try to pretend they are meaningless because they are 80-120 years old. .. but remember.. it was you that first mentioned them as relevant.

just admit it. it doesnt prove your point because actual science has fulfilled all 4 points of kochs postulum.
but knowing you, you will keep being ignorant, as always. flip flopping and changing scripts then returning to old scripts. never learning anything new or accepting reality
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 05:26:17 AM
#52
Continual mixing up of facts with what is irrelevant about the facts, is part of the franky1 scheme to keep people thinking that there is a pandemic. Look at how the scheme works, below.

This post^^, alone, shows how off-base franly1 is. franky1 hasn't even figured out that it isn't a particular sequencing that counts, but rather, it is the proper sequence and how well the steps in the sequence are adhered to.

by the very fact that there are 2000 different submissions using different patients swabs in different hospitals in different countries all showing the same pattern show that the patients around the world had the same thing.
Since you didn't talk about the sequencing of any of the 2000, the whole thing doesn't matter. Nobody knows what they did with their submissions to come to their conclusions. If there really are 2000 different submissions, they all might have skipped all 6 points of Rivers' updating of Koch's Postulates.



badecker is using an excuse of one bad garage to falsely assume all mechanics cant fix a car.
sorry badecker but when all mechanics around the world are fixing cars and they all come to the same result. its not the mechanic you need to blame

you do know how decentralised/independant verification works right. and peer review..
i mean you are on a bitcoin forum so you have to atleast grasp the concepts that its not just one entity doing tests right. but lots of peers doing indepentant tests and collating the data to come to a consensus.
you do grasp that concept, right?

just wakeup.
its fun debunking you. but its getting boring now because your still stuck with outdated scripts.
You are unusually slow today, franky1. Haven't you never noticed how people all have their favorite mechanic? Favorite mechanics aren't based on what works. They are based on what people feel.

You would rather avoid finding a good mechanic. Why? Because you don't know about mechanics.



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screw it lets debunk badeckers interpretation of kocks postulum
1. The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
(healthy orgamisms=not yet infected.. which tests have proven)

2. The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
(yep they done that too and tests have proved it(PCR method))

3. The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
(yep they done tests on rats and other animals and they got sick)

4. The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
(yep they compared the sequence in human patients to the infected rats)

badecker gets confused about the 'found in infected but not found in healthy people'. the part he gets confused and flipflops about is thinking healthy people = recovered,. no 'innoculated=recovered, healthy = not yet infected

Lol. Now you think that BADecker has an interpretation of Kock's Postualtes. That's precious.

First, thank you for thinking that BADecker is important enough to have an interpretation of Koch's Postulates that needs debunking.

Second, thanks for showing us how deceptive you are, simply by trying to get folks to think that Koch's Postulates have something to do with today's sequencing. Anybody who knows anything, knows that Koch's Postulates are from around 1884 when very little was known about viruses, and that even Rivers' revision to Koch's is from 1937. You attempt to take the focus off the fact that the 2000 might not have used a standardized process, but rather any number of processes that might have contaminate all their tests.

Third, thank you for showing us how clever you are by attempting to make folks think that you are dumber than you really are.

Fourth, or maybe I am giving you too much credit in the third. After all, healthy people can be infected all day and still not show symptoms.

Fifth, like all trolls, you show that you have knowledge of things that other people think, but you don't really.

You use standard troll tactics, franky1. And this is really good. Why? Because it weakens your credibility. We are finding out (if we didn't know all along from your goofy use of grammar) that you must be an agent of the wicked, sent into this forum to mess up logic that shows that Covid is really nothing at all.

Tell us, one time. How much do they pay you to mess up the thinking of average people?

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legendary
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May 03, 2020, 10:07:45 PM
#51
This post^^, alone, shows how off-base franly1 is. franky1 hasn't even figured out that it isn't a particular sequencing that counts, but rather, it is the proper sequence and how well the steps in the sequence are adhered to.

by the very fact that there are 2000 different submissions using different patients swabs in different hospitals in different countries all showing the same pattern show that the patients around the world had the same thing.

badecker is using an excuse of one bad garage to falsely assume all mechanics cant fix a car.
sorry badecker but when all mechanics around the world are fixing cars and they all come to the same result. its not the mechanic you need to blame

you do know how decentralised/independant verification works right. and peer review..
i mean you are on a bitcoin forum so you have to atleast grasp the concepts that its not just one entity doing tests right. but lots of peers doing indepentant tests and collating the data to come to a consensus.
you do grasp that concept, right?

just wakeup.
its fun debunking you. but its getting boring now because your still stuck with outdated scripts.

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screw it lets debunk badeckers interpretation of kocks postulum
1. The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms.
(healthy orgamisms=not yet infected.. which tests have proven)

2. The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture.
(yep they done that too and tests have proved it(PCR method))

3. The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism.
(yep they done tests on rats and other animals and they got sick)

4. The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
(yep they compared the sequence in human patients to the infected rats)

badecker gets confused about the 'found in infected but not found in healthy people'. the part he gets confused and flipflops about is thinking healthy people = recovered,. no 'innoculated=recovered, healthy = not yet infected
legendary
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May 03, 2020, 05:00:38 PM
#50
PEOPLE. Be sure to read what tvbcof says above ^^^. In the sequencing studies franky1 talks about, there are sub-directories/sub-listings pointing to different viruses. Just because Covid-19 is listed, doesn't mean Covid-19 is the bad one.

but it is. because the people with BAD SYMPTOMS get swabbed and its found to be the sequence that has been discovered since december 2019.
not previous years sequences

previous years sequences also have linked cases of known symptoms.. and this years dont match previous years

it was precisely the fact that this years patients were not respondin to certain meds, and where their symptoms were more severe than different years is the whole point of them then realising its something new and sampling it.
this is all old news from december. and it appears badecker really cant grasp that its now MAY

heck. even chinas 'patient zero' went to a clinic on december10th and was given standard meds that help with previous varients. bu when he turned up in hospital december 18th feeling worse. where they obviously didnt work. they started to realise something was new about it.
they sampled his fluids done many tests. and when other people started turning up after that they realised it was not a small case. but a epidemic.
then when people in other countries had the same symptomology and when many tests done it showed the same seqence that has not been seen before december 2019. they knew it was a new pandemic of a new virus which they called the illness covid19


badecker. please just hurry up and catch up to reality. your not doing yourself any favours hanging around outdated myths from 3+ months ago

This post^^, alone, shows how off-base franly1 is. franky1 hasn't even figured out that it isn't a particular sequencing that counts, but rather, it is the proper sequence and how well the steps in the sequence are adhered to.

For example, if you want to replace a piston in a car engine, there is a sequence of steps that you have to go through to do it. What if you forget to torque the head-bolts to the proper specs? What if you try to put the piston-rod cap on backwards? What if you don't at least hone the cylinder, or remove the ridge with a ridge-reamer?

You have to follow the steps in the sequence. And you have to follow them exactly.

What is a sequence? A sequence is a list of steps that you have to follow, in the proper order, if you want to get the right results. There are many sequences of steps for all different kinds of things, like I talked about a car engine sequence above.

Two of the main sequences for finding out about viruses are Koch's Postulates (1884), and Rivers Postulates (1937). Rivers is mostly an upgrade of Koch. There might be all kinds of other, named sequences that are being used for virus detection and identification, but they are all essentially based on Koch and Rivers.

While it is true that previous years sequencing of viruses doesn't show anything about Covid, the thing that remains the constant for both SARS and Covid is the sequencing process. If you want successful results in a sequencing, you absolutely MUST follow all the steps of the sequence... whether is 2003 for SARS, or 2020 for Covid.

In the video Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick - the sleight of hand that transformed society - https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/ which I have mentioned previously, the Rivers sequencing steps are clearly shown, and compared with the Koch steps. What else is clearly shown is that the 2003 Chinese testing for SARS did not follow all the steps of the sequencing process. What does this mean? It means that we still don't have a clue that SARS was the problem what the medical says it was. It might have entirely been something else.

franky1 knows this, and tries to point us in a different direction. F-1 tries to make it sound like the Covid sequencing was done properly. He does this by not even focusing on it, but rather, trying to distract from it.

But the question asking if the steps of the sequence were followed completely and correctly, is the second biggest question of all. The first is, which sequencing used? Was it Rivers or something else? If it didn't include at least all the points that Rivers provided, and the theme that Koch initially laid down, there had better be some good explanation as to why!

Rivers provided the sequencing steps necessary to determine the virus. These sequencing steps weren't followed for SARS in 2003. And all the NIH evidence that franky1 shows us doesn't explain much about the sequencing for Covid... was it Rivers 'postualtes'?... were all the steps adhered to? What this means is that all the NIH garbage is just hearsay like all the media news, albeit very complex hearsay. And franky1 is actively trying to cover this fact up.

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EDIT: To be fair, get one of those NIH tests, and break it down for us so that we can see the sequence of steps. Kinda do it like Dr. Kaufman does it in his video. And explain which named sequencing was used.
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PEOPLE. Be sure to read what tvbcof says above ^^^. In the sequencing studies franky1 talks about, there are sub-directories/sub-listings pointing to different viruses. Just because Covid-19 is listed, doesn't mean Covid-19 is the bad one.

but it is. because the people with BAD SYMPTOMS get swabbed and its found to be the sequence that has been discovered since december 2019.
not previous years sequences

previous years sequences also have linked cases of known symptoms.. and this years dont match previous years

it was precisely the fact that this years patients were not respondin to certain meds, and where their symptoms were more severe than different years is the whole point of them then realising its something new and sampling it.
this is all old news from december. and it appears badecker really cant grasp that its now MAY

heck. even chinas 'patient zero' went to a clinic on december10th and was given standard meds that help with previous varients. bu when he turned up in hospital december 18th feeling worse. where they obviously didnt work. they started to realise something was new about it.
they sampled his fluids done many tests. and when other people started turning up after that they realised it was not a small case. but a epidemic.
then when people in other countries had the same symptomology and when many tests done it showed the same seqence that has not been seen before december 2019. they knew it was a new pandemic of a new virus which they called the illness covid19


badecker. please just hurry up and catch up to reality. your not doing yourself any favours hanging around outdated myths from 3+ months ago
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May 03, 2020, 11:35:20 AM
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PEOPLE. Be sure to read what tvbcof says above ^^^. In the sequencing studies franky1 talks about, there are sub-directories/sub-listings pointing to different viruses. Just because Covid-19 is listed, doesn't mean Covid-19 is the bad one.

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May 03, 2020, 11:27:00 AM
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The culture of trust and obedience is in the United States. Why? Because franky1 showed us the CDC websites - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN997409 - which are supposed to show virus sequencing that proves that people are being made sick by Covid-19.

But here is what you will find if you look at the testing. The testing shows that all kinds of viruses are shown besides Covid-19. Further, the tests show that nobody knows if it really IS Covid-19, or if it is something like SARS or MERS, both of which have been conquered years ago. IN OTHER WORDS, the test have shown that there is no conclusive proof for what is causing the people to be sick.

You have the links, above. So, check them out, and see if you can find even one test that proves Covid-19 rather than showing a whole family of Coronaviruses. I would like to see it.

It should be rather straightforward to come up with an antibody test.  Just need some antigens specific to the so-called 'SARS-cov-19'.  If there really is no particular coronavirus which is strongly correlated with 'covid-19' disease that they are claiming people had and died from, that would explain the fearsome trouble they are having in coming up with the various tests which 'work.'

I would point out that creating a vaccine involves careful isolation of the antigens, creating them in a highly purified form (hopefully without a lot of undetected and unknown pig viruses in the mix as was the case with the rotovirus vaccines) then doing careful mixing and a lot of testing.  If they think they can get done with tat in '6 months' when they cannot even get an antibody serology test to work right, that's mighty suspicious.  I would go so far as to say that they don't have any intention or need to 'innoculate' against 'SARS-cov-19' either because it doesn't exist or because it's just a seasonal bug who's lifecycle is done.  In short, the 'covid-19' vaccine is an excuse to do something else.


The point is, people in the USA and around the world are trusting their doctors, who are trusting other doctors, who are trusting a few people in the WHO, who are being controlled by Communist China, who is lying to us all. It just happens that Sweden has an honest doctor at its head... a doctor who saw early on that the statistics coming out of the WHO don't add up.

The biggest funder of the WHO is reported to be Bill Gates, and he was a close second before the U.S. dropped it's funding.  You have the right idea on 'trust chains', but I posit that you have things a little backward.  At the top of the pyramid would be the financial system owners who settle at BIS.  Below that, and owned/controlled by them:

 - The U.N. (including the WHO.)
 - China (where a LOT of capital was moved over the past three decades.)
 - The U.S., and almost every other country (except perhaps Syria, Iran, and N. Korea...and maybe Israel.)
 - The environmental movement.
 - The 5-eyes intelligence agencies.
 - The environmental movement (greenies)
 - All multinational corporations.
 - All major private universities (other educational systems under the bought and paid for governments.)
 - Almost all religious institutions.
 - Almost all media outlets (saved for a small fraction of the 'alt media' of today.)

Basically, in a debt-backed fiat monetary regime one group ends up with all the money and thus all the power.  The above framing expliains why in my area the 'new normal' after 'covid-19' is being defined by the sociology department at the notoriously left-wing university and a large corporate conglomerate who seem to have perfect agreement with one another.

The 'new normal' looks exactly like 'United Nations Agenda 21', and it is this combine forces of academia, big business, and the fake environmental movement, and real estate developers which has characterized the project since it's inception decades ago.  The 'inventory and control of all people, places, and things.'

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May 03, 2020, 11:24:11 AM
#46
The culture of trust and obedience is in the United States. Why? Because franky1 showed us the CDC websites - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN997409 - which are supposed to show virus sequencing that proves that people are being made sick by Covid-19.

But here is what you will find if you look at the testing. The testing shows that all kinds of viruses are shown besides Covid-19. Further, the tests show that nobody knows if it really IS Covid-19, or if it is something like SARS or MERS, both of which have been conquered years ago. IN OTHER WORDS, the test have shown that there is no conclusive proof for what is causing the people to be sick.

You have the links, above. So, check them out, and see if you can find even one test that proves Covid-19 rather than showing a whole family of Coronaviruses. I would like to see it.

what badecker has not comprehended is that the subdirectory /sars-cov-2-seq/ are the ones submitted that are JUST covid19

other sub directories have other sequences for previous viruses
and if you compare sequences from DIFFERENT subcategories you learn that the ones in /sars-cov-2/ are new and only discovered in december 2019
meaning covid19

also those sequences in /sars-cov-2-seq/ are from samples from patients suffering from certain list of symptoms that are not the same as previous viruses.
again proof

its common sense stuff (well for those that are not badecker)
which is more proof that sweden would not be at a ~1.2 r0 if they had more idiots like badecker in their population

Okay. Link to a few of those sub-directories for us. Maybe even learn how to use quotes. Possibly explain how the info in those sub-directories you link to shows only Covid-19.

But here is the most important part. Show that it is Covid-19 that is making a person sick, and not something else.

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