Topic: ALL EYES ON SWEDEN - page 2. (Read 722 times)

what badecker has not comprehended is that the subdirectory /sars-cov-2-seq/ are the ones submitted that are JUST covid19

other sub directories have other sequences for previous viruses
and if you compare sequences from DIFFERENT subcategories you learn that the ones in /sars-cov-2/ are new and only discovered in december 2019
meaning covid19

also those sequences in /sars-cov-2-seq/ are from samples from patients suffering from certain list of symptoms that are not the same as previous viruses.
again proof

its common sense stuff (well for those that are not badecker)
which is more proof that sweden would not be at a ~1.2 r0 if they had more idiots like badecker in their population

The culture of trust and obedience is in the United States. Why? Because franky1 showed us the CDC websites - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ and https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/nuccore/MN997409 - which are supposed to show virus sequencing that proves that people are being made sick by Covid-19.

But here is what you will find if you look at the testing. The testing shows that all kinds of viruses are shown besides Covid-19. Further, the tests show that nobody knows if it really IS Covid-19, or if it is something like SARS or MERS, both of which have been conquered years ago. IN OTHER WORDS, the test have shown that there is no conclusive proof for what is causing the people to be sick.

You have the links, above. So, check them out, and see if you can find even one test that proves Covid-19 rather than showing a whole family of Coronaviruses. I would like to see it.

The point is, people in the USA and around the world are trusting their doctors, who are trusting other doctors, who are trusting a few people in the WHO, who are being controlled by Communist China, who is lying to us all. It just happens that Sweden has an honest doctor at its head... a doctor who saw early on that the statistics coming out of the WHO don't add up.

There is only one thing real about this, it's just that people in Sweden are way more disciplined that any other nationalities. As one article shows, it's just a culture of trust and obedience.

Thanks, franky1. I like the fact that you are helping me advertise the fake pandemic.

It's coming out into the open that this whole thing is fake. But with you helping me, we just might get it out into the open a little faster.

So far we don't have any proof that people are dying from Covid-19. And the fact that you are helping me to repeat this, shows that you understand it, as well.

So, thanks again.

idiot.

but i like the way your subtly now backing out from suggesting you believe that its a hoax by saying you are only posting what others say and no one has asked your personal beliefs..

sorry but that excuse wont work later when reality finally hits you and you try to backtrack
you made too many posts advocating that its a hoax.

so you cant escape it now.
so how about wake up wise up man up admit you have been an idiot. and start doing proper research

edit about post below
there is actual swab samples, independantly tested and decentrally tested by multiple countries. there are blood samples, xrays, ct scans and many other diagostic methods
your personal ignorance is not the same as there not being any proof.
there is proof but you ignore it
the only proof you show is your an ignorant idiot

I know. It's difficult for you. But thank you, franky1, for advertising for me anyway.

It's almost embarrassing for me when you put words into my mouth. I know that you have to do this sometimes, just to hide from the fact that you are really supporting me. So, should I contradict you, or embrace you? Mostly I am showing people what others have said. I might make a remark about it. But just because others say something, doesn't mean anybody has quizzed me on my personal beliefs.

The point about testing isn't that nobody is tested. The point is that the tests are inconclusive for several reasons, including the one in the website that I think you are referring to - https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=145574. If you are referring to some other website, please clarify.

Actually, I don't think anybody really knows if you are referring to me at all with your above quoted post. Maybe I shouldn't be so assuming. But, if you were, thanks for the advertising. We know how hard it is to remain formally against the idea that CV is a hoax, and yet advertise on behalf of people who understand it is a hoax. You are doing a remarkable job of this.

and that debunks your other topic claim..
the things like hospices. most countries and states dont include the hospice deaths. pensylvania temporarily did then retracted it . and instead sticking to only included covid19 positive tests.

thus debunking your whole premise that no one in stats is tested.

this is getting funny that you end up using a second claim that debunks the first claim.
maybe try to catch up on which script your reading and pasting so you dont trip up on yourself as much

Thanks again, franky1, for advertising for me. Did you notice in your article you found? Did you see the word "self-sampling?" So, the people sampled themselves at home, and decided if they had or didn't have CV.

I just want to thank you for using this kind of self-examination type of checking for CV, to show that the university studies that showed antibodies in thousands that were tested, has to be accurate, because it was done by professionals looking for the truth.


And this message is for any of franky1's peers. Please don't be too hard on him. After all, he is really working in your best interest... right franky1?

BTW, we are finding out that we are "cleaner," even, than Sweden...


Pennsylvania Forced To Remove HUNDREDS Of Deaths From Coronavirus Death Count...

2.5% tested positive
so the mortality rate is 0.x% but thats just while only 2.5% of people have got covid.
this means the number of deaths will rise with the more people that get it. to the tune of 40x
so that turns a 0.x% mortality into a x.x% mortality

yes the whole was that the percentage of 'mild symptomatic'/assymptomatic would be higher. whereby people developed antibodies without any/severe symptoms.. but now they are realising that not many are getting it.
this is because people are social distancing
now with the death rate being what it is at 2.5% spread. multiply the death rate by 40 and thats what you'll expect at full population spread.

infact. with there being more 'sufferers' that need hospital, than that of those that die.. multiply it by 10 and thats how many hospital admittances (400x of current deaths). and you start to grasp the concept of hospital bed/supply/capacity issues.

and if a hospital does become over whelmed. guess what more people end up dying untreated

i know badecker cant google and definetly cant google translate
so here it is
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/publicerat-material/publikationsarkiv/f/forekomsten-av-covid-19-i-region-stockholm-26-mars3-april-2020/
"The report reports the result of a self-sampling of covid-19 in the Stockholm region during the period March 26 and April 3, 2020. The results show that approximately 2.5% of Stockholmers carried SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes covid-19. , in the upper respiratory tract at the time of the examination. The survey included 738 invited participants aged 2 to 86 who performed self-sampling at home and reported any symptoms via a survey."

..
reference of the study also includes a study in austra of over a 1300 samples. of which only 0.32% had antibodies.

all of this just shows what i have said for many weeks. this is the calm before the storm.

so santa clara california 1.5%
so stockholm sweden 2.5%
so austria 0.32%

and yet badecker thinks 99% of people have and it and its time to go back to business as usual and the whole pandemic is over with (facepalm)

badeckeker if you were warned of 100mph winds. and so far only felt 2.5mph would you say the storm hasnt started yet or try to convince yourself the storm is over

as for belarus
well china was reporting from their 50th case in a day early january.. america was reporting their 50th case feb 24th
belarus only has its 50th case in a day on march 19th
yep belarus is not even feeling the breeze yet
in comparison swedens 50th case per day was march 4th

so belarus is not ahead of sweden in recovery. its actualy a couple weeks behind
belarus is actually tightening up not loosening.
as is sweden

Yes it is dangerous but they already reach the highs of it and they are trying to build the herd immunity in their own words this virus cannot be eradicated but they can only be managed, check this very interesting article on how Sweden managed this virus

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257353/Swedens-virus-expert-popular-people-getting-FACE-tattoo.html

While the lockdown isn't officially over in Arizona, people can do just about anything that they want. An underground market is springing up. The only bad part for Sweden is, they will have to quarantine their whole nation from the rest of the world just to avoid the world lockdowns.


GAME OVER: The Swedish - Belarus COVID Herd Immunity Strategy Has Won

I never cared much for Sweden because of their liberalism and socialism. But you can admire them for "sticking together" in this fake-CV pandemic, which is really a media-caused pandemic. Watch the video in the linked site below.


If Sweden is so wrong to keep pubs open why is its health chief's face the tattoo everyone wants? ASKS IAN GALLAGHER

It's okay. Since you mostly debunk yourself with your so-called debunking, we can accept your ramblings easily enough.

badecker i already debunked your conspiracy about the ICD-10 death certificates. you are so ignorant.

heck even bigtree debunked himself by featuring the document that talked about how a death certificate was to be filled out and it actually said list the symptoms in order of last first and also include as much info as possible and test samples, results scans etc

but hey blind people cant even read the very info presented to them. they just believe stupid idiots that say 'its fake'

What we see in Sweden is a highly dangerous experiment. No one can know at this point what the outcome will be. We might see less deaths, but we might also see a huge raise in a second wave this fall. So don't judge to early guys.

I had always considered Sweden to be an unfree country because of their socialism. But now I see that they are a smart country because they recognized that Coronavirus is simply a common flu type of disease. So they didn't go to all kinds of extremes like most other countries.

The problem with their numbers of cases and deaths from Covid-19 is, their doctors still recognize the world medical community. This means that their doctors are reporting a whole lot of CV deaths that aren't really CV deaths, just like the rest of the world. How do we know? Because they have admitted, worldwide, their tests are inaccurate. And they have admitted, worldwide, that their medical heads have told the doctors to report Covid-19 no matter what the disease is.

sweden are about a month behind. they didnt really get many infected until march where as america had them in february..
just this week sweden are seeing their numbers rise and starting to realise they might need to tighten the rules

Sweden has always been one of the top countries to live in. Even in this pandemic, Sweden has left its schools, gyms, cafes, bars and restaurants open throughout the spread of the pandemic. I think the government has done a great job and its people are really disciplined I can say that.

the pro's and cons of face masks are this

pro:
1. if someone is within 2 metres of you and coughs on your face with mouth open. a mask will stop it entering your mouth
2. if you have corona and you cough. the mask you wear catches it

now to explain.
1. by not being within 2 metres of someone negates the need
2. if you have corona and symptomatic. stay home or go to hospital if severe

now the cons
1. supply/demand makes it hard to get/expensive. thus less supplies for nurses that need it because they cant avoid being near the sick
2. regular people are stupid they will adjust it for comfort and when talking to people to not muffle their voice
3. adjusting it/taking it off means your hand is touching your face more often then usual
4. those wearing a mask suddenly think they are immortal and safe to take other risks like standing close to people
5. they stop washing hands and touch things because they think the mask blocks it from entering their mouth. but(see con 2)

so the best advice is
stay 2 metres apart. dont touch random things or if you do wash hands regularly. plus the thing you touch. and if sick. stay home or go to hospital if severe

only urban area's where its hard to stay away from people should wear it.
EG a city block of apartments where hundreds of people take their daiiy exercise has a more pro than say someone living in the open air land of arizona

feel free to make your own mask. but just remember this one rule. STOP TOUCHING YOUR FACE

also to add
sweden decided on lax restrictions based a model where by for every positive test 1000 were asymptomatic(untested)..
but this was debunked 2 days ago when they realised. based on real maths that a city of 1 milion people.. would have 6 million people infected..
yep bad math you cant have 6 million people infected if there are only 1million physical people.

so now they are revising the maths.
and yet to do actual proper antibody tests...

but i still laugh at california's antibody test
"A California serology study of 3300 people released last week in a preprint also drew strong criticisms. The lead authors of the study, Jay Bhattacharya and Eran Bendavid, who study health policy at Stanford University, worked with colleagues to recruit the residents of Santa Clara county through ads on Facebook. Fifty antibody tests were positive—about 1.5%. But after adjusting the statistics to better reflect the county’s demographics, the researchers concluded that between 2.49% and 4.16% of the county’s residents had likely been infected. "

so america 330m has 5mill infected not recorded
or doing playful maths of 2.49-4.16
is 8.29m-13.7m

yep no where near badeckers influencer bigtrees numbers of 40mill

its real funy because
even as far back as january february it were estimating
30% asymptomatic. 50% mild <- not tested due to not sick enough to go to hospital

which is much closer math than bigtree's bad math.

i think a 10%-20% severity is about right. and it depends if its in an area of younger population or high density population which can increase the viral load, and ofcourse those that suffer and die at home avoiding hospital/having a DNR on care plan

but if you take this 10-20% that need hospital and realise that there is not enough hospital beds for 10-20% .. people need to see the reason for isolation to delay the influx of severe patients