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sr. member
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People dont learn from the past. Wasnt it the same with Butterflylabs? Why do you guys still pre-order, is your greeed that high? :/

I believe the hope was that not only consumers, but also the COMPANIES THEMSELVES, learned from the past.

This is terrible business practice.

Can someone explain to me how we keep letting people like this get away with terrible business practices while we just sit on forums either 'bitching' or saying 'I told you so' ?

The companies DID learn from the past.  They learned they can do this and get away with it, so why not do it?  Not scamming is just leaving money on the table, since there is no shortage of customers no matter how they treat them. 
hero member
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Still banned from forums, and no reply to any emails, especially my refund request.
sr. member
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Still no word.

Have no time to keep up with their forums.

If I did post something there, it'd be removed/deleted anyway.
legendary
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Well Alpha Technology decided to reply to an email of mine. Was it because of this post? Who knows. The timing is a little fishy though, eh?

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Hello there,

I am very sorry but this is not possible as your order has already been processed.

Best Regards,

Alpha Technology Team

What a response!

Fingers crossed. Send any photo proof when you get it?

As for deleting posts on their forums (im not a customer, and not a member of their forums) - the email reply I read earlier in the thread said that the forums the request was posted in was not for customer support - so that maybe a reason why they remove such posts?

I hope either way that you both either get your money back from them, or a suitable miner if it has been already processed.

However, it is worth noting that Alpha Tech are a UK based company, so presumably fall under the EU Distance Selling Regulations. As well as Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations (CPUTRs for Short). This legislation gives a none-business consumer many many rights in regards to what they are allowed to do with your money/items. Of course, if you are a business - you still have the Sale of Goods Act and under this there are also covered many rights.

I wouldn't however, hesitate to add that taking any form of legal route would most likely victimise all of the other customers of Alpha Tech, and potentially make the very situation happen what you fear will happen - so if anything, be prudent, and be wise. Don't let your frustration or outrage cause you to unfortunately make a victim of their other customers - as legal costs can get very costly for both parties, and ultimately it would be the consumers who lose out.
sr. member
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Well Alpha Technology decided to reply to an email of mine. Was it because of this post? Who knows. The timing is a little fishy though, eh?

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Hello there,

I am very sorry but this is not possible as your order has already been processed.

Best Regards,

Alpha Technology Team

What a response!
sr. member
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Well, here's a lesson in life for you: there's what you want, and than there's what I want, and I wanna post a reply, so yeah.

I called it greed and still will cause it is what it is - if you wanna call it compete, than w/e float your boat man.

But hey, as long as they got their 100% guarantee refund policy, it was a "different" decision to be made, eh?

And good for you for mining for so long, shame you haven't got the capacity to learn anything at all from past mistakes (yours or others).

Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.

Good luck though, and despite all the was said, I sincerely hope you do get your money back.
hero member
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I appreciate your long post and actually reading the forum but you yourself are wrong. Here is why.

 It is not greed that lead me to them, it was the simple need to try and compete, and actually make a few dollars. That is not greed, that is good business.

 I never considered myself a customer, and in fact had you taken the time to read the entire post I said investor. They promised a money back guarantee before the actual due date, I requested one. They refuse to answer email, and they are banning people from their forums if they even ask. Please stay on topic. Do not preach to those that are more aware of the situation than you.

 First off, you really need to slow down my friend, as when I invested, 25mh/s a was unheard of. Did I take a chance.. you bet i did.. but they also claimed a 100% back guarantee that before any time of shipping I had the opportunity to request a refund. I did that, and got banned from the forums and no response to email as of the current time.

 To make claims of I am not sorry you got scammed and yes I can call it a scam because all I did was ask them to honor what they promised, a money back guarantee.

 Again, I am not a consumer, and please stop using this word. I took and investment in them on the pretense of a money back guarantee.

 Starscream, pleae do not post again, as you are merely saying I told you so, and that is not the case at all. Learn to speak, before you open your trap. You come here and try and inform folks, but yet you simply laugh in not just mine, but others faces. How is that helpful? How in any way can anyone see your post as informative?  It simply is not.
 
I did read the post and you can call you what you want, but at the end of the day it was greed - you saw a quick way to make some quick buck.
If you really wanted to compete you'd go buy GPUs and make a farm, if you'd done it, like I did it at feb, you'd already have seen ROI (I know I have).

And I'm not sure why you keep mentioning this "100% guarantee refund" nonsense like Alpha-T is some reputable entity that has the sources to actually fulfill this promise.

Give me 10k$ for my secret project, and at any time you have 100% guarantee refund. Would you? Hell if you would without an escrow.


 Sir, I have to ask you to stop posting as you are not even reading the thread. You bought GPU's in Feb. Nice! I been running a 40+ farm since march... of last year. I am not responding to you in a swinging dick style, I will simply again ask you to back the hell off as you obviously know not what you speak.  It was not greed, and I answered you in this retrospect, I have no idea why you want to say I was investing is greed. If no one ever invested...... surely you get the point.

 I appreciate your enthusiasm and I wish you the best of luck in your farm.. I will not further reply, and trust me, my farm is BIGGER than yours, so please do not talk down to me.
sr. member
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I appreciate your long post and actually reading the forum but you yourself are wrong. Here is why.

 It is not greed that lead me to them, it was the simple need to try and compete, and actually make a few dollars. That is not greed, that is good business.

 I never considered myself a customer, and in fact had you taken the time to read the entire post I said investor. They promised a money back guarantee before the actual due date, I requested one. They refuse to answer email, and they are banning people from their forums if they even ask. Please stay on topic. Do not preach to those that are more aware of the situation than you.

 First off, you really need to slow down my friend, as when I invested, 25mh/s a was unheard of. Did I take a chance.. you bet i did.. but they also claimed a 100% back guarantee that before any time of shipping I had the opportunity to request a refund. I did that, and got banned from the forums and no response to email as of the current time.

 To make claims of I am not sorry you got scammed and yes I can call it a scam because all I did was ask them to honor what they promised, a money back guarantee.

 Again, I am not a consumer, and please stop using this word. I took and investment in them on the pretense of a money back guarantee.

 Starscream, pleae do not post again, as you are merely saying I told you so, and that is not the case at all. Learn to speak, before you open your trap. You come here and try and inform folks, but yet you simply laugh in not just mine, but others faces. How is that helpful? How in any way can anyone see your post as informative?  It simply is not.
 
I did read the post and you can call you what you want, but at the end of the day it was greed - you saw a quick way to make some quick buck.
If you really wanted to compete you'd go buy GPUs and make a farm, if you'd done it, like I did it at feb, you'd already have seen ROI (I know I have).

And I'm not sure why you keep mentioning this "100% guarantee refund" nonsense like Alpha-T is some reputable entity that has the sources to actually fulfill this promise.

Give me 10k$ for my secret project, and at any time you have 100% guarantee refund. Would you? Hell if you would without an escrow.
hero member
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...You do not treat good customers this way....I am a 6.7k investor....

Just wanted to respond to this real quick.  This may be how you see yourself, but they never saw you as a customer, or an investor, they saw you as an interest free loan.  You say you don't want to get screwed but seriously, every single one of these preorders always turns out exactly the same way.  At some point you have to start to wonder, if people don't want to get screwed, why do they keep bending over?

 Ahh gotcha, so what your saying is if a person sees an opportunity to take a chance on something, with a 100% guarantee refund, they should never take it. Hmm, that's a tough pill to swallow right there.

 Btw.. not every preorder has ended up this way. Example being the 2 Cointerra machines I have. Yes they were late, and yes they are 1.5-1.6 instead of the 2 th/s they promised. But..... They officially paid off 5 days ago, so from this point they are gravy. Which at current rate is .12-.13 btc a day.

For the record, I am an investor. and yes they did use me as a interest free loan. I simply asked for my money back as they guaranteed. Can you help me with this? otherwise, the "I told you so" I am sick of. Sad
hero member
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People dont learn from the past. Wasnt it the same with Butterflylabs? Why do you guys still pre-order, is your greeed that high? :/

 BFL never offered 100% money back before shipping, and they also never banned massive accounts on their forums for asking a question. Basically, your point is null and void.

 Is my greed that high you ask? No but my investments are, and chose to do so with a 100% money back guarantee, which they have as of late yet to give.

 Please try and be helpful, as I made a legitimate request for help...
hero member
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...You do not treat good customers this way....I am a 6.7k investor....

Just wanted to respond to this real quick.  This may be how you see yourself, but they never saw you as a customer, or an investor, they saw you as an interest free loan.  You say you don't want to get screwed but seriously, every single one of these preorders always turns out exactly the same way.  At some point you have to start to wonder, if people don't want to get screwed, why do they keep bending over?

No matter how many BFL like scam companies sprout from anywhere , but people will keep on pre-ordering and cycle gets on repeating itself ,and worst part is those people who are new to crypto , start investing without knowing the repercussions &  get scammed and its just bad for whole crypto-currency  which aims to get into mainstream.




 I am by no means new if you were referring to me. I have 3 45u 7 foot racks in my garage and over 40 gpu's humming. It ain't easy to scam me. This I promise.

I was not referring to you , I was referring to new people who hear about crytpo-currency and invest in mining etc . and on one hand , greedy Asic manufacturers like Alpha-t bring whole crypto under bad light and on other hand keep on stacking money in their banks .
hero member
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...You do not treat good customers this way....I am a 6.7k investor....

Just wanted to respond to this real quick.  This may be how you see yourself, but they never saw you as a customer, or an investor, they saw you as an interest free loan.  You say you don't want to get screwed but seriously, every single one of these preorders always turns out exactly the same way.  At some point you have to start to wonder, if people don't want to get screwed, why do they keep bending over?

No matter how many BFL like scam companies sprout from anywhere , but people will keep on pre-ordering and cycle gets on repeating itself ,and worst part is those people who are new to crypto , start investing without knowing the repercussions &  get scammed and its just bad for whole crypto-currency  which aims to get into mainstream.




 I am by no means new if you were referring to me. I have 3 45u 7 foot racks in my garage and over 40 gpu's humming. It ain't easy to scam me. This I promise.
hero member
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...You do not treat good customers this way....I am a 6.7k investor....

Just wanted to respond to this real quick.  This may be how you see yourself, but they never saw you as a customer, or an investor, they saw you as an interest free loan.  You say you don't want to get screwed but seriously, every single one of these preorders always turns out exactly the same way.  At some point you have to start to wonder, if people don't want to get screwed, why do they keep bending over?

No matter how many BFL like scam companies sprout from anywhere , but people will keep on pre-ordering and cycle gets on repeating itself ,and worst part is those people who are new to crypto , start investing without knowing the repercussions &  get scammed and its just bad for whole crypto-currency  which aims to get into mainstream.

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sr. member
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I believe the hope was that not only consumers, but also the COMPANIES THEMSELVES, learned from the past.
No, the hope was always that the "consumers" will learn their lesson.
Most "companies" that engaged in the pre-order practice ended up as nothing but scam (hence the quotation marks around the word companies).
Some came out legit (if you can call extreme late delivery as legit). But still, the majority were scam.

This is terrible business practice.
You assume said companies were real to begin with.

People dont learn from the past. Wasnt it the same with Butterflylabs? Why do you guys still pre-order, is your greeed that high? :/
Can someone explain to me how we keep letting people like this get away with terrible business practices while we just sit on forums either 'bitching' or saying 'I told you so' ?
I'll assume with my reply that you also gave them money.

Anyway, I can tell you easy how this keeps happening: people keep throwing money for vaporware because of greed. No-one to blame but themselves.

Don't wanna get scammed? Don't give your money to complete and total strangers.
So yeah, "I told you so" is quite a reasonable response.

You don't wanna let them get away with it? Than go do something about it. Your money, your responsibility.

I'll never understand people giving money for a product that doesn't exist. That doesn't make you a consumer, that makes you an investor (they only sell it as a pre-order so that they can get your money under the pretense that you're a consumer), and as such, you also assume the risk that the product will never see the light of day and that you'll lose all your money.

If you thought for a moment that you're a consumer... Oh boy.

A lot of people kept warning everyone else that pre-orders are bad, that you might get scammed completely, and even if you wouldn't, there's a big chance you'll get the product so late you'll never see ROI.

Despite all of that, people like the OP still decided to go on ahead with the pre-order. He wasn't forced to, no1 hacked his wallet and payed for it against his will nor did anyone hold a gun to his head.

You're all grown ups (I assume), you made a decision willingly and freely, I'm not sorry you got scammed, just hope you've learned your lesson.

If you wanna get something done about it, than those who feel like they got scammed (I suppose you can't call it a scam just yet, as they haven't reached their deadline - I think) need to get together and do something. Asking the entire crypro-currency community as a whole to do something is just not the way.

BTW, in what other market in the world do you pre-order a product that doesn't exist (and never has) under the pretense that you're a consumer and that you'll get the product 100%?
sr. member
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People dont learn from the past. Wasnt it the same with Butterflylabs? Why do you guys still pre-order, is your greeed that high? :/

I believe the hope was that not only consumers, but also the COMPANIES THEMSELVES, learned from the past.

This is terrible business practice.

Can someone explain to me how we keep letting people like this get away with terrible business practices while we just sit on forums either 'bitching' or saying 'I told you so' ?
legendary
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People dont learn from the past. Wasnt it the same with Butterflylabs? Why do you guys still pre-order, is your greeed that high? :/
sr. member
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...You do not treat good customers this way....I am a 6.7k investor....

Just wanted to respond to this real quick.  This may be how you see yourself, but they never saw you as a customer, or an investor, they saw you as an interest free loan.  You say you don't want to get screwed but seriously, every single one of these preorders always turns out exactly the same way.  At some point you have to start to wonder, if people don't want to get screwed, why do they keep bending over?
hero member
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 I have received many private messages and appreciate you guys support. Please do not them get away with this. I cannot even read their forums now, they have completely put me in the dark. I have to rely on information now through this and the litecoin forum.
sr. member
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It seems odd that many manufacturers made scrypt asics and are constantly improving on speeds and whereas as alpha-t has still nothing but excuses.I am glad that I didn't fall for their claims.

Hindsight is great. However some of us did "fall for their claims" ..... I'm sincerely getting sick of this type of irresponsibility in the crypto community. How can we ever have mainstream adoption if we can't even have trust between ourselves?

Alpha-T, you should be ashamed of yourselves. At least answer your damn emails.
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