Topic: Alt account or loan defaulter [Obari] (Read 1933 times)

This topic has almost no value as there is no engagement and it is decided by a lot of people that the fact is about alt account though the accused person idn't agree but could not provide any evidence argument behind it. Now I also want to ignore the topic as a result I am going to lock the topic.

"make sure that it does not sound like you are vouching for him", that sounds pretty much like it.
I'm just not a fan of people making assumptions or accusations out of thin air.
I just updated here because I thought it's the right thing to do. All you do was complain and tell me to update in a scam accusation thread that doesn't even exist. 

But anyway, you do you, it's fine.

All the fuss has nothing to do with the original topic Shasan opened, so why even talk about it.

Since this matter is closed anyway I will now unfollow this thread to avoid further waste of time or discussions, I think we both have better things to do, for example wondering when sinbad refills the payment address. 

Please show me where I say that you vouch for him.
This?


I neither alluded nor investigated any of this. I didn't even check if you left him feedback, I didn't research or analyze anything about you two. Although you defend yourself aggressively, it sounds weird.


So, your account was not hacked?


Why did only you and AHOYBRAUSE see the attack on him? /I honestly don't even care about the reason, it's more of a rhetorical question


You now owe FatFork 0.05 BTC, I hope you will show that you are a person who keeps his word.

archived

You are an alt of Cantlogin.

Proof:

Archive: https://ninjastic.space/post/62587912


Now, about that bounty reward...

I don't follow the discussion in this thread. I read a little and most importantly I am happy if you have your money back.

Have a nice day

I was not supposed to get back here, because this is a place for kids, but let's get back with one message for clarification.

First yes Sakanwa has paid back the loan, how he did it is only mine and he's business. I really dont understand why you attacking AHOYBRAUSE about it?
AHOYBRAUSE asked me, I explaind how it was, he wanted to share it with you, even that it's not any of your business, I see it's kind of him.

And this that I should be ALT of half the world...  @NotATether @examplens and all other's I don't bother to search it up, you are nothing else then mentally ill pea brains.

If you gonna come with accusing like this, first come up with proof, but it's not any, just speculations.. because I am not an ALT of anyone and it's so obvious if you own a brain.
Let's check a bit...... Rohan (Indian)....PS34 (Morocco)...Smarty14392 (no idea where he is from)....elmanchez (speaks Russian it seems, but from some other country diarrheawolf said.

If this was true, this BS it means I would be able to speak... like 4-6 different languages.... Then I would for sure not be on this sad place.
You are so out of your mind so it's only cute. You only speculate, nothing more, and you have wrong.

Anyway, thanks for a good laugh and good luck with your life's you really need it, some of you are fucking over 50 years with kids and sitting here and act police instead of spending time with your kids, embarrassing humans.

But if you actually would find proof that I am an ALT of anyone. I challenge you. I will give that person 0.05BTC now you have to do for the rest of the week also.


@suchmoon   @Stalker22   @Bitcoin_Arena   - And you can remove your feedback. or not... I don't give a fuck to be honest.


What all of you think is irrelevant and nobody care, come back with what you KNOW and have PROOF of next time your clowns.

To all the people that actually tried to help me and the bitcointalk forum admin. A big THANK YOU!

Now I am out to  the real life.... Enjoy your time in here.

We haven't forgotten about Obari/Sakanwa and group and DT members will tag him and his alt accounts or will not, according to how they view it. In my opinion Obari can not be trusted right from offenses like using stolen/sold accounts, borrowing loans using his multiple accounts at ago (I see a planned exit scam) to cheating, lying, and ban evasion.

How and where was I vouching for him? He didn't ask me to provide this information, I just did it because it seems I am the only one still interested in this story.
Please show me where I did "vouch for him" . Because I gave him a positive feedback months ago isn't it. Yes I did, and it stays there, because he gave me a small loan without collateral which I appreciated.
Other than that we just spoke about life in general because we both live as expats in Asia, that's all.

Anyway, as Mahdirakib asked, yes I am in contact with him via telegram and that's where I asked him if the case is settled by now, and it was last Sunday, that's all. How and where he paid, I don't know, I just heard that he did and that's all that matters.

So in other words, the loan dilemma is done, now only the multi account accusation about all of them is still there.

After everything we have seen in all the cases with the c_cowboy, manipulation, lies, fabrications... That is why we accept all the information coming from his kitchen with a great deal of suspicion.
Don't forget that he started a lending service where he applied for a loan with his own sock puppet accounts.
If you are already a messenger, make sure that it does not sound like you are vouching for him with all his alternative accounts and the drama he was making.

Hello PS34

Have you verified it by asking 'CYBER_COWBOY' on telegram recently?

Sakanwa had requested for one month extension to repay the loan on 24th August. On the 27th August, Cantlogin confirmed that he received a part of the repayment amount and the remaining amount will be sent later (based on an agreement).


I don't know what kind of agreement they made, but the loan repayment address hasn't received any transaction of 0.00085 BTC from Sakanwa or any other address after the first repayment. I'm wondering in which method Sakanwa has repaid the remaining BTC loan!

Don't shoot the messenger man and you could ask these question in a better tone.
I just updated here because I had time and thought it's a good idea since cg said it himself after he gets paid he is out of here.
Also, there is no scam accusation thread about sakanwa, I just checked and I didn't find any. The communication was all in his general lending thread.

He proved in this thread that he is who he is: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.62745873

I just updated here to not forget about the Obari/Sakanwa/others connection, not more and not less.

Why did he only say that to you, why don't you make an update in his scam accusation thread? With proof of course.
If he cannot access his account, he can always use another account with an address signing to prove that it is him.

That is so frivolous and opens up all possibilities. But as far as I can see from the feedback, both accounts (cyber cowboy and Rohan Kotkar) are actually connected and probably alt accounts. So, a big red flag for all involved in this bullshit.

For those who care, cyber cowboy informed me that the loan has finally been paid in full.

Yet I think this case should not be forgotten (it feels like it).

Did our community detectives find out anything new? I wouldn't be surprised if there are more accounts involved since we already read about plenty. Seems like Obari/Sakanwa just continued living their lives like nothing happened.

Hhampuz has kicked out Lordhermes from the campaign yesterday as his account received some negative feedbacks recently. Where Sakanwa hasn't received any negative feedback yet as he is getting the benefits of the doubt. As a result, his name is still in the spreadsheet. Sakanwa tried his best to meet the weekly post requirement, but he has failed to do it as one of his post was made after the campaign weekly post count time.

Perhaps, Sakanwa won't say anything here as long as his account isn't at risk with negative feedback. And he won't repay the loan (remaining amount) if he gets kicked out from the campaign without getting the payment from upcoming weeks.

In these cases the simplest explanation is the true one. We cannot be 100% sure but we can be something like 99.9% sure. It is not only in that text, later he also wrote something similar.


This type of multi-accounts when they are caught what they do is to invent sophisticated stories to see if they can get rid of the punishment, they put some element to make the story a sobbing one and make people feel sorry for them. I remember in the case of martyns when he was caught with that he was not the original owner of the account, because it had been created by an Indonesian and he wrote from Nigeria, he said that he had a brother in Indonesia who had given him the account. It could be seen in the comments on the subject that there were people who felt sorry for him.

The case went so far that it started a debate on whether to tag for buying accounts.

Discussion on buying/selling accounts/users actively seeking possible bought acc

But now look, it has been reliably discovered that he was part of a much bigger ring. It wasn't just about buying an account.

Wait a minute.
I was just brushing my teeth and for some reason thought about this case again.
Obari's “explanation” was that he uses Sakanwa’s phone.

Something doesn’t add up here.

So did Sakanwa reply with Obari’s account because it was still logged in?
Also I don't know if we mentioned this, but why does he write: "I want to correct that Obari isn't a loan defaulter neither do I have any alt what so ever."

Who wrote this reply? Obari? Sakanwa? Why would he refer to himself as Obari instead of "I" but writes "I don't have any alt" some words later?

I'm just a bit confused here.

Yeah I didn't see he was in the avatar only campaign, you were right.
Fun fact, it seems that Obari isn't aware of this himself since he is still wearing the yo!mix signature and avatar even though the week ended Friday.

And yes, Sakanwa's silence is quite ridiculous.
One thing I have to add though. Since I am regularly speaking with cybercowboy I know that he and Sakanwa spoke and he already paid back a part of what he owes , like 50% or a little more. This happened some days ago.
Anyway, not even speaking out of course is a bad look and that doesn't change the multi account ( bounty campaign abuse ) allegations here.

I didn't check the spreadsheet of Sinbad as Obari was wearing the signature and avatar of YoMix.

I wasn't wrong when I made the post. Obari has been accepted in YoMix campaign for the avatar payroll today. And his name wasn't in the spreadsheet when I made the post. However, I wasn't aware of the fact that Obari was accepted in the Sinbad campaign too for the avatar payroll.

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Sakanwa is continuously making posts in the gambling discussion without clarifying the situation here. Does he really deserve the benefit of doubt?

Lordhermes, Sakanwa, and Obari also share the same style of reserving posts in signature campaigns:


I am not sure what to make of this, it appears there are just too many accounts for one person to manage. You might be onto something with the idea that the farm is run by two or more people, but it seems like everyone uses all the accounts as required.


Going down the rabbit hole, Mistafreeze account is connected to DomainMagnate and KryptoKings here. He is also linked with dbc23, coco23, Zilon, and Alisha-k accounts in this thread.