Topic: Alt possibilities for 4 high rank accounts - page 2. (Read 1498 times)

I believe all four accounts have received and read your message. all of them are active and even make posts on multiple threads.
even though they are not active in the reputation thread, my assumption is, that all accounts have seen this thread, but prefer to remain silent and ignore their case.
hopefully, there will be one or 3 other accounts that will soon confirm the case concerning his reputation.

Oh how I wish this were true.  Look at all these rabid Derek-Chauvinesque rentacops salivating at the prospect of tagging these four accounts.  Why?  Because they're ALTS of one another!  OHZNOZ!  ALTSZEZ!

Even though they've done nothing abusive and it's not against the rules to have alts, according one rentacop they need to show up to this thread and tell us why they shouldn't be tagged.  Sounds stupid, doesn't it?

It used to be. I mean members used to tag merit abusers but not anymore since the admin made an statement about it. He did not encourage tagging for merit. The trust system is encouraged to use for financial deals. For example if anyone get scammed or lose money then tag the scammer. Things like that.

Following on from my PM to the four accounts yesterday, all have signed in to the forum this morning but none have posted here. There is circumstantial evidence to link them together but he/they should start posting in this thread to either confirm the accounts are linked or deny the allegations by presenting their case.

I will help you with a link. I also had a misunderstanding of this attitude towards merit transfer, but LoyceV showed me a link, after which I agreed not to tag people for such things. If the merit is not sold but transferred, and there is no abuse, this is not considered a big problem.
Actually, I think so, too. In the end, all people are revealed by their behavior on the forum, someone can earn merits, but it's easier for someone to transfer to himself.

Oh. I believe this is the first time I am reading this and for the record, a lot of accounts were red-tagged for possibly trading of merit but what you're saying here is that the admin doesn't want anyone to be tagged for doing so.
Could you please provide me a link to back this up because I need to be reassured that what you're saying is true?

I've also taken the good initiative of informing them of the suspicions in this thread beforehand via PM, but sadly they didn't respond and probably ignored them.

But wait, it looks like dkbit98 is getting angry with the actions of the 4 accused accounts and started sending neutral tags to all accounts. I hope it will force all of them to show their face here to clarify things that may be wrong/right.

There is no conclusive evidence, but there has been suspicious activity nonetheless. This is especially evident by looking at screenshots and their titles, and that they are all posted in the same thread. It is almost impossible to consider this a coincidence. Another "coincidence" is that all accounts were active in the Indonesian local board.

Yet again you need to understand that admin does not want anyone to tag for abusing merit unless a source is doing it. The source will be removed from the merit source list.

Man you are making a pottery there 🤣
Obviously you are enjoying it.

I just sent a PM to all four names mentioned in the OP and asked them to post here in the thread. Hopefully they will post their response to the allegations soon so they can state their position.

Somehow this thread has stopped refining the evidence supporting abuse of merit, abuse of campaigns and ban evasion of the 4 accused accounts. All the accused accounts also never bothered to clarify the OP's suspicions against him, it's the most support thing that all accounts are owned by the same person. If my negative tag could force them all to appear here, then I would ^{[but sadly I'm not on DT].}

For the same reason, it is by no means surprising.

Actually, Theymos Allows creating alt accounts as long as they're not used for evading bans. We often see brand new or newbie accounts creating Scam accusations/Reputation threads/Reporting Known alts. Do you guys think it's surprising? I don't think so since the forum allows that, and it's the safest way to not get any personal attack on your main account.

As I said before, I have tried to PM one of the 4 accused accounts clarifying the issue in the thread but till now he is ignoring my PM. I know they've changed their habits based on the evidence the OP presented next, but there's nothing we can do as long as nobody forces them to come out of hiding.

Logically, if the above 4 accounts are not alts then one or two of them must have different thoughts and will clarify it but so far I think all of them have the same way and just shut up and watch.

I'm pretty sure they are alts, but without stronger evidence I don't think DT will take action against them. So I think a little coercion might be useful here. So, a special request for the 4 accounts involved, give us a few words to refute the allegations leveled against you. I feel if you ignore it then you deserve to be called an alt regardless of whether you blame the merit system or the campaign.

Meanwhile, the accused are not even bothering coming out to at least defend themselves, which makes me think that maybe there is some truth to what OP posted. Someone who knows they are not guilty of anything such as merit exchange would have already tried to reason out why he/she is not connected to the other accounts.

I don't expect anyone of you at DT to tag these 4 accounts based on the evidence I got, but you will have to research further to make a decision.

I'm just presenting some evidence that I think leads to something that can be considered strong especially regarding screenshot numbers, posting patterns and abuse of merit.

One of the strongest evidence at this time is Lantind is the alt of the other 6 accounts and he has been doing ban evasion. Then Davian144 and Bestcoins1 tried to apply for the same campaign but only Davian144 was accepted.

Thanks for your efforts to detect alt accounts. As a general forum member, I am pretty sure they are an alt account. But as a DT member, I won't tag based on the evidence that you presented here. Having alt accounts isn't a crime, but abuse & cheat with an alt account is a crime. So you may keep them on the eye to find more solid evidence that would help tag them. But I think they will be aware from now since accounts are already in question.

Once upon a time I would tag accounts if I knew they were alts and I saw them having bizarre conversations with each other in the same thread, which I considered egregious spamming....and then the merit system came along, my blood pressure went down, and I'd no longer engage in that kind of tagging.  So yeah, I agree that if a bunch of accounts appear to be the same person but aren't enrolled in the same bounty/campaign, it's not an issue for DT members to take care of, as annoying as it might be.

Heh heh, well there's that too.  On the other hand, this isn't the first time I've seen new accounts kick off their bitcointalk career by trying to bust scammers.  That doesn't really raise any red flags IMO.

The problem is that there isn't anything for DT members to do unless there's solid proof that those four accounts have broken a forum or bounty rule or committed some kind of tag-worthy infraction.  The evidence has to be solid enough to withstand scrutiny by the community for having been given by a DT member, because any DT member who hands out too many wrong feedbacks is going to get booted off the DT list eventually.

No hesitate, all of them exist on 1 person.

OP, you can say they are alts and blame the merit system and campaign but you have to be aware that your efforts will be in vain without really accurate evidence.

I've PMed one of those accounts but he just ignored my PM when I asked about the possibility, and I don't think they're going to talk here. It would be nice if someone could invite them to clarify the situation in this thread. Either way then I think the problem will be solved if they clarify the situation because ignoring and snooping will only lead people to speculate further.

You're right, but when I don't blame him for anything, I don't think it's a problem. What you need to think about is the issue of the 4 high ranking accounts I've mentioned in this thread as most of you seem to only care about newbie scammers for shitt-token and worthless altcoin.

The thread you are referring to is actually for the proven guilty account, but this thread was specially created by me to identify those 4 accounts and will only post them there once there is solid evidence that they are cheating.

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Here is some evidence that I will present for your further consideration:

Lantind had unusual merit transactions from 6 other accounts for 1 big transaction:
1. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=kenelmark [25 merit]
2. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=aryana42 [25 merit]
3. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=lukmandog [25 merit]
4. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=infarterr [21 merit]
5. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=Surrapatt [21 merit]
6. https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lantind&from=ahmia39 [21 merit]

and all of the 6 accounts above are alt tag by marlboroza. Some of them have been auto-ban and some still haven't. Then why don't I think Lantind is the alt of the 6 accounts above?

Proof: https://i.ibb.co/280WfQY/alt-acc.png


Then, 3 other accounts (Davian144, Republikcoin.com, and Bestcoins1) exchanged services and after this thread was created, the habit of posting pictures completely changed. None of them now have a serial number on the image so I think they really are the alt of the same owner.

I don't have much of a way to prove it, but YOSHIE, lovesmayfamilis and Awaklara or maybe Jolygood and some other cheat detector detector might help.

Here's some more evidence when the accounts applied to the campaign.

Two accounts (Davian166 and Bestcoins1) have applied to the same campaign: [CFNP]FortuneJack.com| Signature Campaign | Sr. Members+ ~ Earn up to $100/Week!

https://ninjastic.space/post/59288537
https://ninjastic.space/post/59294468


Then the change I mean now is that they don't post pictures that have serial numbers anymore. All accounts are now changed and most have edited it to remove traces.





If indeed these 4 accounts are not alt and cheater and spammers, then why did everything change, edit and so on?