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legendary
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be constructive or S.T.F.U
Maybe you should research deeper connection this accounts have with others before you write some wisdom here

No thanks, I'll pass, I have better things to do.

You seem to be taking my comments rather personally.  They weren't directed at you, but if you feel their applicable I can't stop you.  As for my posts in various threads; if you don't like them you can use that handy "ignore" button that's provided.

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It's absolutely ridiculous that we're on page three of this nothing burger.
As if you don't post in nothin-burgers yourself all the time (for example 1xbit) and in the same time you are preaching others what to do while you are also posting here  Cheesy

You seem to be taking my comments rather personally.  They weren't directed at you, but if you feel their applicable I can't stop you.  As for my posts in various threads; if you don't like them you can use that handy "ignore" button that's provided.

But, really, you think threads about a scamming casino are nothing-burgers?  Interesting take.
legendary
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First of all, I apologize for being late in responding to this, because actually we are very busy every day serving customers in our shop so this has been neglected and this is not something we did on purpose.
The four of us actually work in a computer shop in our area and one day the personal devices that Davian144 and Bestcoin1 often use suffered a slight damage that required repairs and also upgrading the components of the device to a better version because they did not have enough funds. to buy a new device.

And because previously Lantind and I also wanted to upgrade the devices we had, so we also decided to do it simultaneously because considering we work in the same place so it can be easier to do this. So because this is what forces us to use the same device, namely the computer at our workplace to do routine postings alternately. Because we don't usually post via the smartphones we have.

Which on that computer at that time could not access Imgur unless we had to use a VPN, the place where we used it to upload the images we needed. So we are all forced to use the imgbb site to upload images and usually we also never make any edits to the screenshots we take. This is what actually happened, please understand.

Once again sorry for the delay
Very interesting, but someone already connected all your accounts with much bigger farm, so I guess your office is much bigger  Cheesy
I always enjoy reading this stories, and this makes bitcointalk forum less boring place.

It's absolutely ridiculous that we're on page three of this nothing burger.
As if you don't post in nothin-burgers yourself all the time (for example 1xbit) and in the same time you are preaching others what to do while you are also posting here  Cheesy

Exactly, some of these DT members here can't help with the urge of wanting to practice their "power". I too don't buy into the "office friends" b.s, but as long as no rules are being broken, no campaign is being cheated, and nobody is being scammed, who cares? except if you have all the free time in the world, and nothing better to do.
Who practiced their power in this case and how exactly?
Maybe you should research deeper connection this accounts have with others before you write some wisdom here... could be part of big farm of spammers.
I could say the same for anyone posts including yours... maybe nobody cares about your speculations and you have all the free time in the world, so enjoy it.

To summarize, this accounts did apply for same bounty campaigns before, and some of them are a part of big spammers list blacklist by actmyname:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/spammer-blacklist-the-shitlist-4440941

This will be my last post in this topic.

legendary
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These types of which hunts are more damaging to the reputation of the forum than anything these spamming alts have done.  In fact, if these accounts were to be tagged THAT would be spam, spamming of the Trust System.  

Overzealous DT members are more damaging to this forum than any spammer could hope to be!

Exactly, some of these DT members here can't help with the urge of wanting to practice their "power". I too don't buy into the "office friends" b.s, but as long as no rules are being broken, no campaign is being cheated, and nobody is being scammed, who cares? except if you have all the free time in the world, and nothing better to do.
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What about after reading his reasons explaining the correlation between the 4 accounts? Still no reason to believe it?
For me, something isn't quite adding up. I don't know if that's because of the language barrier or if what they're saying is accurate. If it's accurate I wouldn't say that's evidence of anything, but rather something that should potentially be taken into consideration if more damning evidence is found.

I like facts, and even though I find their reasoning, and counter argument not convincing at all. That's isn't exactly evidence to me. Now, my personal opinion is something fishy is going on, and that's why I think there's merit to definitely investigate it further, and I wouldn't be surprised if the accounts are connected. However, that's just my personal interpretation, I can't act on that.
It is hard to argue against your views because (as you say) something fishy going on does not equate to facts and evidence.

Having said that I think the vast majority consensus in the thread is agreed upon there being suspicious behaviour and the accounts are connected beyond the story/explanation that one of the 4 accounts (Republikcoin.com) provided earlier.

For now it seems this situation will play out a little but longer because a second of the the four users posted here too...


I only found Republikcoin.com, bestcoins1, and Lantind who tried to cheat a campaign, but that's doesn't mean Davian144 is free from this accusation. Because Republikcoin.com said he have a relation with Davian144, that's brought those 4 accounts into this accusation and should be tagged as well.
Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
We know the rules of the campaign where everyone is not allowed to connect with each other and that is something we haven't done for a long time so we never connected until now because we always uphold the rules of this campaign and forum, even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.
If what you say is true, what are the names of all the forum accounts in your circle of friends that all work in the same place and all personally know each other?

I think it goes beyond the 4 names mentioned in the OP:

sr. member
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What could be the most solid evidence we could find is the connection of their addresses, which most of all alt accounts are caught, then the owner and the accounts should be banned. If the addresses are falling into a single address, then we can assume that the accounts are operated by one person. If he uses an extra layer not to get caught, then we can see if he used a mixer or any sort of.

as far as I am seeing, I don't see any violation. BUT there's an unwritten rule  Cheesy
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It's absolutely ridiculous that we're on page three of this nothing burger.

Lets assume everything the accused have said is a lie; they are all indeed owned by one individual; so what?  Has he broken the rules?  Let's see:

Merit exchange?  That's been addressed by theymos, nothing to see here.
Signature cheating?  Nope, the accounts registered in campaigns are registered in different ones.
Scamming?  No evidence of such.
Spamming?  That's subjective, but it's not an offense deserving of a red-tag.

All I see is they posted in the same topic, and used the same numbering system for their photos.  To be honest, I don't believe the tall tale of computer system rebuilds and friends working in the same office either, but who cares?

What is it you guys expect to accomplish here?


These types of which hunts are more damaging to the reputation of the forum than anything these spamming alts have done.  In fact, if these accounts were to be tagged THAT would be spam, spamming of the Trust System.  

Overzealous DT members are more damaging to this forum than any spammer could hope to be!
legendary
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Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
Bitcointalk forum is not ''work'', except maybe for spammers who own account farms.

even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
Ok very nice, so now you are confirming connection with this accounts, and you claim that you are friends.
Can you please tell us how many ''friends'' you exactly have in bitcointalk forum, and can you named them all?

And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.
It's not proven that you cheated or didn't cheat here, but it is strange to have similar behavior for all accounts, sharing merits, and participating in same topics.
I am not sure if you all participated in same campaign and shared same addresses, but doing this would be considered as cheating.
legendary
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Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
We know the rules of the campaign where everyone is not allowed to connect with each other and that is something we haven't done for a long time so we never connected until now because we always uphold the rules of this campaign and forum, even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.

May I ask a direct question? Your account has a registration date of 2012. Is this your account from the start?

What can you say about the Koreadi account?

Why do I have such a question?

Koreadi account was selling social media accounts after he wanted to exchange them for a high-ranking account on this forum.

Gan ade mau barter akun facebook(teman full 5000) dan Twitter (5000 follower) dengan akun full member ataupun akun newbie, jr.member & member yang berpotensi, kalau minat PM me

Di jual akun Twitter & Facebook

Twitter audit 99%
Link twitter audit: https://www.twitteraudit.com/NSinyonya

Link Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/siBitcoiner?ref=bookmarks

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Minat PM

Akun facebooknya berapa yang aktifnya gan?
Dan follower twitternya real atau bukan gan? Tembus audit berapa akun twitternya?
silahkan cek aja sendiri gan

Ini link fb nya :
https://m.facebook.com/siBitcoiner?ref=bookmarks

Ini link twitternya: https://mobile.twitter.com/NSinyonya



But according to reports, I see that no one was seduced by such an exchange, from which it can be concluded that you still bought someone else's account.

coba agan tawar atau di nego, ni thread orang yang jual akun Jr member https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jual-akun-jrmember-2344537
sudah ane pm gan, tapi ngak ada respon gan, ane mau beli akun apa aja gan buat nyoba ikut bounty



If you say that you know the rules of the forum, then you should know that buying other people's accounts is not welcome.

I can guess the same thing about what your friends did.

ada dana berapa gan?? kemarin temen ane ada yang ingin dijual gan, jr semua,
cantumkan nama akun jr.member yang mau di jual gan, kawan ane pada butuh gan, termasuk ane
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I only found Republikcoin.com, bestcoins1, and Lantind who tried to cheat a campaign, but that's doesn't mean Davian144 is free from this accusation. Because Republikcoin.com said he have a relation with Davian144, that's brought those 4 accounts into this accusation and should be tagged as well.

Is it wrong if a friend invites his friend to work ?
We know the rules of the campaign where everyone is not allowed to connect with each other and that is something we haven't done for a long time so we never connected until now because we always uphold the rules of this campaign and forum, even though in real life we are friends because we work in the same place.
And so far we have not cheated anyone and have never harmed anyone here because each account you say is owned by a different person.
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What about after reading his reasons explaining the correlation between the 4 accounts? Still no reason to believe it?
For me, something isn't quite adding up. I don't know if that's because of the language barrier or if what they're saying is accurate. If it's accurate I wouldn't say that's evidence of anything, but rather something that should potentially be taken into consideration if more damning evidence is found.

I like facts, and even though I find their reasoning, and counter argument not convincing at all. That's isn't exactly evidence to me. Now, my personal opinion is something fishy is going on, and that's why I think there's merit to definitely investigate it further, and I wouldn't be surprised if the accounts are connected. However, that's just my personal interpretation, I can't act on that.

No ... I didn't think it was evidence. It just seemed unlikely that all four would ignore this topic and personal messages from other members, despite being active in the forum. Though I agree that I could have worded it differently.
In that case, that might well be true. Although, now three have ignored it, and one responded. Does that change anything for you? Personally, it doesn't for me, and that was my original point. I'm not saying you're wrong in what your saying, just giving my two cents. I imagine plenty of users will disagree with me, and that's why we have a trust system setup like it is.
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation,

No ... I didn't think it was evidence. It just seemed unlikely that all four would ignore this topic and personal messages from other members, despite being active in the forum. Though I agree that I could have worded it differently.
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It's funny in the very busy everyday conditions, all the accounts can still posts and reach the minimum requirement of the campaign. How can they have a times if it's really busy, anyone?

I only found Republikcoin.com, bestcoins1, and Lantind who tried to cheat a campaign, but that's doesn't mean Davian144 is free from this accusation. Because Republikcoin.com said he have a relation with Davian144, that's brought those 4 accounts into this accusation and should be tagged as well.

Both Republikcoin.com and bestcoins1 applying in the same campaign (OWL DAO signature campaign) in the same week.

posted by Republikcoin.com on 2021-12-29 11:41:08 UTC
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Both Republikcoin.com and Lantind applying in the same campaign (PrimeDAO)

posted by Lantind on 2020-11-04 06:07:52 UTC
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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Lantind
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/lantind-763725
Telegram Username: @Lantind
Participated Campaigns: Signature and Telegram
ETH Wallet Address: 0x8CD83CddDA5edDd594348EC2cF93dC9F1F12735f
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posted by Republikcoin.com on 2020-11-04 16:06:22 UTC
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#PROOF OF REGISTRATION
Forum Username: Republikcoin.com
Forum Profile Link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/republikcoincom-470478
Telegram Username: @republikcoins
Participated Campaigns: Signature Campaign
ETH Wallet Address: 0x85cf295ca2e493c7e3770e9083753e1d862ab88f
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5. Using multiple accounts, cheating, and spamming are not allowed. You will be disqualified from the bounty program immediately and all of your accounts will be banned permanently.
(bounty link)

This what those 4 people looks like:



legendary
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What about after reading his reasons explaining the correlation between the 4 accounts? Still no reason to believe it?

There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation, which as we all know doesn't equal causation. In similar effect, it doesn't really matter much whether they all reply here, two reply here or one replies here. That doesn't add anything to the evidence, at least at linking the accounts. I'm aware that one has now replied, but that simple fact doesn't change anything. Although, their explanation is down to interpretation.

English Patrol Scuad, has provided at least some evidence to why they're suspicious of the accounts, although its probably not enough in its current state. Unless, more damning evidence appears, I'm afraid not much can be done.
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
There's absolute no reason to believe they're linked simply because they all have ignored the message. That's not evidence, that's just a correlation, which as we all know doesn't equal causation. In similar effect, it doesn't really matter much whether they all reply here, two reply here or one replies here. That doesn't add anything to the evidence, at least at linking the accounts. I'm aware that one has now replied, but that simple fact doesn't change anything. Although, their explanation is down to interpretation.

English Patrol Scuad, has provided at least some evidence to why they're suspicious of the accounts, although its probably not enough in its current state. Unless, more damning evidence appears, I'm afraid not much can be done.
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There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
Aside from the merit transfer, did they break any other forum or bounty rules? Simply putting a neutral tag on their accounts may be enough to warn bounty managers that these accounts are likely to be alts.
100% these accounts are operated by one person. He slipped up in a couple of ways that are overwhelmingly pointing towards it.

First of all, I apologize for being late in responding to this, because actually we are very busy every day serving customers in our shop so this has been neglected and this is not something we did on purpose.
The four of us actually work in a computer shop in our area and one day the personal devices that Davian144 and Bestcoin1 often use suffered a slight damage that required repairs and also upgrading the components of the device to a better version because they did not have enough funds. to buy a new device.

And because previously Lantind and I also wanted to upgrade the devices we had, so we also decided to do it simultaneously because considering we work in the same place so it can be easier to do this. So because this is what forces us to use the same device, namely the computer at our workplace to do routine postings alternately. Because we don't usually post via the smartphones we have.

Which on that computer at that time could not access Imgur unless we had to use a VPN, the place where we used it to upload the images we needed. So we are all forced to use the imgbb site to upload images and usually we also never make any edits to the screenshots we take. This is what actually happened, please understand.

Once again sorry for the delay
Really? How many people do you expect to believe the story you spun?

Usually there are one or two excuses given when someone tries to defend their actions but what you posted reads like a litany of excuses...

What is stopping you from coming clean and admit that you are operating not just these 4 accounts but others too?
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First of all, I apologize for being late in responding to this, because actually we are very busy every day serving customers in our shop so this has been neglected and this is not something we did on purpose.
The four of us actually work in a computer shop in our area and one day the personal devices that Davian144 and Bestcoin1 often use suffered a slight damage that required repairs and also upgrading the components of the device to a better version because they did not have enough funds. to buy a new device.

And because previously Lantind and I also wanted to upgrade the devices we had, so we also decided to do it simultaneously because considering we work in the same place so it can be easier to do this. So because this is what forces us to use the same device, namely the computer at our workplace to do routine postings alternately. Because we don't usually post via the smartphones we have.

Which on that computer at that time could not access Imgur unless we had to use a VPN, the place where we used it to upload the images we needed. So we are all forced to use the imgbb site to upload images and usually we also never make any edits to the screenshots we take. This is what actually happened, please understand.

Once again sorry for the delay
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I posted in threads these accounts last posted:


There is no doubt that all four accounts have read your message and seen this thread, but he or they have chosen to ignore it and not reply. I think this may also indicate they are linked together.
Aside from the merit transfer, did they break any other forum or bounty rules? Simply putting a neutral tag on their accounts may be enough to warn bounty managers that these accounts are likely to be alts.
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I posted in threads these accounts last posted:


What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alt-possibilities-for-4-high-rank-accounts-5394026

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

You bought at very high price.i entered this coin when it was 2$ and made good profit. I sold at 7$ and then never bought again. If again Decentralization trend start then I believe that Cake token will be boom again above 10$. All crypto market is now in bear trend but hope when bull start Cake token will also recover fast.
Cake will recover slowly and not quickly if the Bullish market can come again this year because in general Cake is a token that already has the trust of investors and also from traders so it is likely to recover during a bullish trend if it can come again this year, considering that the market is still in a bearish trend that is still ongoing and has not yet been completed.

What is also very is that you are not responding to allegations made against you.

What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alt-possibilities-for-4-high-rank-accounts-5394026

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

They only cite bad examples in the crypto market but ignore the movement pattern of bitcoin so far, but I also don't blame @kesmex that someone will be free to choose to invest in the real world or crypto, all who benefit then it's worth the investment.
I think that is also very clear because investing in anything is for profit and as long as it can be very profitable then it is definitely worth the investment.
But always consider the risk when you want to choose it and also see where the potential is because this is different from investing in the real world which is always easier to know what is better and more profitable.

You are silent about the allegations made against you. What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alt-possibilities-for-4-high-rank-accounts-5394026

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.

Price is not in well position to reach $20 in 2022. It may be happen but on in this year. Matic is under $1 now and market condition is also in poor condition. It will take more time to recover the market again. So, literally it is not possible for matic to reach $20 in this year.
What you said is true because with the current market conditions all coins find it very difficult to recover themselves to a better price because everything takes time and also a process of improvement in the market so that you can see the price movements of good coins from now on, but as the current market conditions still do not allow for a recovery, then everyone should be more patient to see the Matic priced at $20, both for this year and next year.

You seem to post in detail when replying to certain posts but you remain silent on allegations made against you?

What are your opinions about the allegations made against you? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/alt-possibilities-for-4-high-rank-accounts-5394026

What about the PMs you received asking you for your input to clear your name?

If you can post around to hit your targets to receive your signature campaign fee you should be able to post in the thread that has allegations against you.


why should the exchange be responsible for the failure of the project. from the start they have only been a place to trade and the people who buy should know the risks when buying problematic coins. to blame is the development team itself. those who make this problem so big. no action has been taken since crash.
Basically the exchange is clearly not to blame because the exchange only provides the services and places needed by the coin or token so that traders can see it clearly and can make purchases on it. I think what you're saying is absolutely true because it's the project team who are to blame for putting the product on the market and not taking care of it very well.
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I checked before you posted, all of them have logged in after the PM was sent to them. I did not check to see if they posted elsewhere but they have been active. I hope they respond here soon.

I believe all four accounts have received and read your message. all of them are active and even make posts on multiple threads.
even though they are not active in the reputation thread, my assumption is, that all accounts have seen this thread, but prefer to remain silent and ignore their case.
hopefully, there will be one or 3 other accounts that will soon confirm the case concerning his reputation.
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