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Probably.
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The embassy will direct you to seek independent legal advise in your problem.
Or provide you with a list of lawyers and wave bye bye.
Going to embassy will not make bitcoins appear on your wallet.
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Why bother embassies. Just go to the UN!

Fun Cat Fact:
Cats steal.  At times, cooperatively.

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The UN is not reliable due to their previous deceptions.

The Embassies have some influence, if not they will guide you to the right direction.
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Only one thing is clear our payments has stopped and no one responsible is shedding any light.
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Someone is sitting in the shade today...
was there any new development in the past week? or same ol with fcat still missing and amhash owners still screwed
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That's how idiots think it works.
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No.  You will talk about it, you will try to get others to do it, you might even start a chat room or irc chan, hell you might even use TorChat with The Dome Of Silence, but you will not have your lawyer (lol, missed the plural, your lawyerS Cheesy) "there in Shenzhen doing it properly."
You ain't even got *one* Sad
I understand your concerns. Believe me that there is no incentive or anything I could gain by running a scam like this get compromised and get into trouble. Of course it may be costly and I cannot guarantee the results because not even a lawyer in any case can. If a lawyer guarantees something 100% he's a con because he cannot predict what can happen. I can only say that that there is a high chance of pressing the responsible people effectively  so that they will compensate Amhash customers. I do not know the companies financial standing or whether FC is found and pays back (I am personally almost sure they will never find him) but I believe it will be dofficult to get off the hook.

Look on my arguments:
1. there are many reliable legal services in Shenzhen specializing in commercial law and white collar crime (as today in our case it looks like it). Retaining such services by businesses from overseas has become more common in China.
2. as flame pointed it out CHina's officials approach to international crime has changed as they understand how much the economy is loosing because of it and they do not like it at all.
3. you do not want to be in such troubles as the people from all three companies in China as the law is very harsh. We want to settle and recover our assets not to ruin their lives of course.
4. to do so would be quite easy and costs effective to some stage if legal costs are distributed among large group of people. Unfortunately I am not in a position to let someone else deal with this issue but I am happy for others to join our group and take part in it. We cannot be that transparent for obvious reasons but the more people actively participating in this effort the better.

I know that it will not be easy but I do not think that it is entirely impossible for a group of strangers to hire a legal representation and make a successful claim. Even in China.

At this stage I have not approached any practice directly but I may get a name in a day or two. Altrnatively I can work it out and contact a few of them one by one and ask for background and pricing. I prefer however to use  EU based solicitor who is Chinese.

Actually I think your criticisim silverspoon is constructive.

 

Ohh so many ways this is retarted. Go for it provide a group of lawyers and junior party officials all the info they need to get a nice fat bribe to forget the whole thing. That's is how it works in China idiot.
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Stop masturbating, it's irrelevant.
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So the transparency you speak of is the ability to match tx id to tx?  Awesome!  Useless, but awesome.

I've got the slight feeling that you don't fully grasp the significance of a public ledger able to prove that a transaction from a certain address to another certain address has indeed taken place Smiley
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...There also are very legitimate reasons for using a mixing service...

Yeah, and you can use a Luger to pound nails.  If it's no one's business what you do with Bitcoin, the "transparent public ledger" sales pitch starts looking a bit limp Sad


A transparent ledger works as an incredibly smart way to verify transactions, or prove the existence of transactions. The 'transparency' you're talking about doesn't have anything to do with 'everyone should be able to trace everyone's coins' - other than a way of proving the ledger's integrity (as in 'where are the coins?')
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^lol @ "dark traits" & advert for mixer service in ur sig.

Huh? I'm merely acknowledging the presence of dark traits in everyone: You, me, whoever... There also are very legitimate reasons for using a mixing service, it shouldn't be anyone's deal where my coins are going and where I got them from. Come on, you can do better than that Smiley
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Has anyone gathered all the info we got so far?

Primeminer, thanks for the information.
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Acting thorough embassies does not make much sense to me, I do not remember any situation when this worked in a business fraud. It is a good method to release political prisoners etc.

I tell you this:

How much would it cost to hire a law firm in Shenzhen to prepare a legal report on chances of a successful claim, tactics, risks and costs?
I think it would take perhaps two pages and 3 hours of work of a lawyer. What hour charge they may have there? Some top tier firms higher some lower. I am sure the market and competition varies the prices

http://www.hg.org/law-firms/criminal-law/china/shenzhen.html

Perhaps someone (preferably from China) approaches one or more of the companies listed above and ask?

Just to be a bit constructive for a moment. What do you think?

Yeah, a good suggestion. Even if it is just for making sure that the people still at AM or AMHASH, ROCKMiner, etc. are doing everything in their power to get a hold of FC and don't decide to take what's left and run. Not to imply anything, but there are dark traits in all of us.
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But from Shenzhen and specialising in commercial and criminal law. Actually we will be providing here free legal aid for our opponents Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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Acting thorough embassies does not make much sense to me, I do not remember any situation when this worked in a business fraud. It is a good method to release political prisoners etc.

I tell you this:

How much would it cost to hire a law firm in Shenzhen to prepare a legal report on chances of a successful claim, tactics, risks and costs?
I think it would take perhaps two pages and 3 hours of work of a lawyer. What hour charge they may have there? Some top tier firms higher some lower. I am sure the market and competition varies the prices

http://www.hg.org/law-firms/criminal-law/china/shenzhen.html

Perhaps someone (preferably from China) approaches one or more of the companies listed above and ask?

Just to be a bit constructive for a moment. What do you think?
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A long while ago I saw them shooting in the neck for burglary at the Tiananmen Square.

For me the only option is to convince the company people, I don't want anyone to be executed.
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